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Hey Im New to the forum and want to know more about prohormones, like how the work, which companies are good, and which products work well hope to here back from you guys
Most of the good prohormones are banned now. A good beginner prohormones would be 1-andro. It has little to no liver toxicity and provides the user with lean muscle mass with some decent strength gains. Google 1-andro ... A good brand is Advanced Muscle Science.Hey Im New to the forum and want to know more about prohormones, like how the work, which companies are good, and which products work well hope to here back from you guys
Blackstone labs came out with someI see a lot of adds for companies like black stone labs and iron mag labs are those companies good ?
Alright sheriff.The Supplement Forum is not a place for PH discussion. There is tons of information available if you are willing to take the time to do some research.
If OP did ANY looking around he would know this. And I mean anything other than joining and starting a thread asking a question that has literally been answered over a thousand times.Alright sheriff.
I'm just kidding bro. I just answered the guy because if we don't give him proper information heIf OP did ANY looking around he would know this. And I mean anything other than joining and starting a thread asking a question that has literally been answered over a thousand times.
But you probably did the same exact thing didn't you?
Very noble of you, however, all you can do is - at best - scratch the surface of what he needs to know. OP is definitely not ready for any type of PH right now. He needs to put in a lot of time and effort into researching different compounds, protocol, etc., before he even thinks of doing a cycle. And this IS NOT the place to discuss. Your better advice would have been for him to start doing his homework and go to the Anabolics section.I'm just kidding bro. I just answered the guy because if we don't give him proper information he
Might do
Something stupid like Superdrol for his first cycle and hurt himself... that's all.
A day late and a dollar short my friend. PH/DS were banned in December of 2014.Hey Im New to the forum and want to know more about prohormones, like how the work, which companies are good, and which products work well hope to here back from you guys
You should talk.....I'm just kidding bro. I just answered the guy because if we don't give him proper information he
Might do
Something stupid like Superdrol for his first cycle and hurt himself... that's all.
You're right. My badVery noble of you, however, all you can do is - at best - scratch the surface of what he needs to know. OP is definitely not ready for any type of PH right now. He needs to put in a lot of time and effort into researching different compounds, protocol, etc., before he even thinks of doing a cycle. And this IS NOT the place to discuss. Your better advice would have been for him to start doing his homework and go to the Anabolics section.
I'm telling the guy to not do something g stupid. Have you ever heard of the concept of do as a say not as I do?A day late and a dollar short my friend. PH/DS were banned in December of 2014.
What OTC PCT would work? That's completely ridiculous. No herbal extract bull**** is gonna get you recovered.Yes, I am seriously advocating NOT using a SERM for PCT. What non-sense. Why take something that is known to inhibit gains when there are such good OTC options for PCT.
I was never a big fan of Nolvadex. People shoot IGF-1 to grow, why take something that reduces it? Not a fan, never was and PHARMA GRADE = some dude making it in a bath tub. lol
The point of a forum is to have discussion. People don't always agree. I personally wouldn't suggest Nolvadex and I personally don't take it. I have never had an issue with recovery.
I'm guessing you don't really run anything that strong. Andros, maybe SARMs although I saw you were questioning them in another thread so maybe not.Yes, I am seriously advocating NOT using a SERM for PCT. What non-sense. Why take something that is known to inhibit gains when there are such good OTC options for PCT.
I was never a big fan of Nolvadex. People shoot IGF-1 to grow, why take something that reduces it? Not a fan, never was and PHARMA GRADE = some dude making it in a bath tub. lol
The point of a forum is to have discussion. People don't always agree. I personally wouldn't suggest Nolvadex and I personally don't take it. I have never had an issue with recovery.
It's LG Sciences. They are probably trying to get you to buy their OTC PTC's lol.He probably needs Otc pct after that celebration of Ny
Arimistane isn't a serm.Most people don't buy actual tabs, they buy the "research chems". I simply find them WAY over kill for most people and herbs are not at all bull**** and steroidal AI's are better IMHO. Arimistane is a really good product being a competitive AI and competitive SERM. Great option...
I personally don't care what people take, but I would suggest looking at the science behind herbals. Tamoxifen (Nolvadex) reduces IGF-1 levels and to me that seems counter productive.
Back in the day, no one took PCT and did just fine. PCT is a relatively new concept but I have to say that over the years some of the herbals really have solid science behind them.
Nolvadex doesn't dissolve well in most solutions, thus you get inaccurate dosing even if they have good intentions at the "research chem" places.
I think for some instances it's ok to use Nolvadex but personally, I stick with supplements for my recovery.
Yeah the andros are a complete joke. Calling them 1AD and 4AD is a disgrace and dis-credits the real 1AD and 4AD that these kids have no clue about.im sorry but the PHS nowadays are junk, my very first post was about a ph on this site, ive learned a lot since then. I took 1-andro did absolutely nothing. Dont expect magical results with this stuff.
Ben1, just stop talking and giving advice. Especially in the Anabolics section.
I'm not really sure what this is about but from what I've seen Ben1 has literally no clue what he is talking about.
Yeah, they do have research on them and I feel an effective mix of herbals and things like DAA (the calcium D-aspartate) do a better job of recovery than Tamoxifen.Do the herbals have science behind them relevant to PCT? I mean, its one thing to have a herbal increase hormones that are already within clinical range...quite another for them to do the same for a shutdown HPTA.
I dont think anyone here has such a black and white view of SERMs that they suggest their use is wholly without unwanted side effects. There is a bigger picture to consider; that though utilising a SERM may put you 2 steps back in some respects, it will also likely put you 10 steps forward.
Well, Jacob24 just joined like 10 minutes ago too!...Not even 10 minutes!a lot of people have no clue what they are talking about Jacob24 thats why the guys on this forum suggested you do some research. Everyone seems to be an expert nowadays on the internet. Point is you need to do research.
Well you're not looking hard enough then.As for the modern PH's being a joke. A study in well trained college kids with a gain of 11lbs and 4lbs of fat loss is pretty compelling to me! I don't see people getting that from Epistane.
I'm know a decent amount about serms and cycles and the fact that I joined 10 min ago doesn't me I don't know anything about prohormones and other types of anabolicsWell, Jacob24 just joined like 10 minutes ago too!
Sure it doesn't but people don't know you yet, so for all we know you could be another Ben1 or bananagainsI'm know a decent amount about serms and cycles and the fact that I joined 10 min ago doesn't me I don't know anything about prohormones and other types of anabolics
I see what you're saying. I was just agreeing with you on the fact that Ben1 needs to stop talking. LSure it doesn't but people don't know you yet, so for all we know you could be another Ben1 or bananagains
LMAO. Roasted.Sure it doesn't but people don't know you yet, so for all we know you could be another Ben1 or bananagains
I think what is being said is that the modern prohormones are nothing like the old ones. You can't begin to sit here and tell me that these Andro products are gonna compete with Trenavar or any of the other banned prohormones.As for the modern PH's being a joke. A study in well trained college kids with a gain of 11lbs and 4lbs of fat loss is pretty compelling to me! I don't see people getting that from Epistane.
You're reminding me of my local supplement shop owner. Right after the PH ban he was selling high schoolers quad stacked prohormones and telling them that they only needed 3gs of DAA a day for one month after the cycle. I saw one kid about 3 months after that at the gym and he had tits like he wanted to be in a playboy magazine. You may have cycled more than I have, idk but to say on here that an actual pct(nolva/clomid/serm) isn't needed is irresponsible and seeing as your I'm guessing the leading rep for LG sciences, I'll take note and never buy any products from your brand.As for the modern PH's being a joke. A study in well trained college kids with a gain of 11lbs and 4lbs of fat loss is pretty compelling to me! I don't see people getting that from Epistane.