Mesomorph finally getting dethroned? Extreme dust!

[BigGame84]

Tried putting Angel Dust Extreme in the fridge and it just made it worse. It's a compete brick now.

 

[EMG81]

Tried putting Angel Dust Extreme in the fridge and it just made it worse. It's a compete brick now.

Damn, that usually solves clumping issues. I apologize for steering you wrong.

A blender or even a butter knife can break it up.

 

[BigGame84]

Damn, that usually solves clumping issues. I apologize for steering you wrong.

A blender or even a butter knife can break it up.

Gonna have to be a blender. A knife won't do it. When I received the product it was sealed well and has a packet inside. It was just always clumpy and hard. Have other experienced the same with Extreme?

 

[janson_kaniaz]

This is how bad the clumping is. The bottom half is pretty much a brick. Took me half an hour to shake, beat and stab those big chunks into powder form again. Won't be buying Dust Ex again if the rest of their inventory is having the same fate.

 

[BigGame84]

This is how bad the clumping is. The bottom half is pretty much a brick. Took me half an hour to shake, beat and stab those big chunks into powder form again. Won't be buying Dust Ex again if the rest of their inventory is having the same fate.

Yep. Same here. And my feelings exactly.

 

[janson_kaniaz]

Yep. Same here. And my feelings exactly.

If you live in the States, perhaps you could ask for refund. It's quite unacceptable to me when the product is not even a month old.

 

[bashar]

My dust seems fine so far, I put it in the fridge following your advice here

 

[Zoomie33240]

Gonna have to be a blender. A knife won't do it. When I received the product it was sealed well and has a packet inside. It was just always clumpy and hard. Have other experienced the same with Extreme?

Dang, was thinking about getting some dust extreme soon. Thank goodness I have a powerful blender

 

[Rob1882]

I broke mine up upon arrival ( with a fork in 30-40 seconds tops ) moving in a circular motion around the tub slowly ( as to not dump powder out ) it had minimal clumping; I put it in the fridge 0 problems since. I posted pics of mine upon opening just 1 page back just FYI and since that initial mixing with a fork briefly and being in the fridge its maintained a very smooth loose consistency as have all of my other pre workouts kept in similar conditions.

Have had pre's utilizing many dif types of ingredients many of which will and do quickly absorb water in the air ( humidity ) within days of opening by keeping them in a fridge I rarely ever ever have an issue. And this is with nearly every brand I have ever seen mentioned as I have many dozens of pre workouts all of which are kept in a fridge I picked up just for my supplements.

 

[carguy123]

I have a open tub of Dust Extreme and have not had any clumping issues and it has been very humid here in Michigan. Also have not kept in the fridge or freezer Seems to be hit or miss

 

[cobri66]

For anyone wondering, I have all the "super hardcore" pre-workouts with DMAA right now and would rank them as follows...

Mesomorph (Rocket Pop): Love this stuff. Flavor is excellent. Energy/pumps are great. I didn't really experience a "crash" users are reporting which is a big reason I enjoy Mesomorph.

Dust Extreme: Hits the hardest. Most "euphoric/focus" of the group. The energy seems to be close or maybe slightly higher than Meso. Enjoying it so far.

God of Rage XXX: This was supposed to be the Meso conqueror, but for some reason I don't get the same "feel" off it as I do Meso and Dust. Very odd, unless the label isn't correct or I need more scoops. I'm even doing heaping scoops with this one not level. I wouldn't recommend it.

I have yet to experience a crash on Meso..why it's my #1

 

[irishiron300]

I'm loving Dust. I feel the energy slightly beats out Meso with some great pumps.

Clumps/hardness was an issue. I couldn't scoop product out so I actually dumped the tub into the cusinart...living the dream since.

 

[TommyTuffGuy]

I'm going to have to get you a sample of the new SuperPump 250 when we have them.. I have a feeling that you'll love it.

I'll definitely take you up on that offer and I will probably be buying a tub outright as well anyhow. ?

 

[horizons]

Wow

I've never had such amazing long lasting focus in my life and that was on 3/4 of a scoop!!

 

[BigGame84]

So put Angel Dust Extreme in blender. Never really got it as fine as I was hoping. But still much better. Next day I open tub, it's back to being clumpy and hard. I give up lol. Unless there's some air getting into the tub, which I doubt, this is just too much of a pain dealing with the hardness and clump. After I'm done with this, I'm moving on to something else. Maybe the new SuperPump depending on reviews.

 

[janson_kaniaz]

So put Angel Dust Extreme in blender. Never really got it as fine as I was hoping. But still much better. Next day I open tub, it's back to being clumpy and hard. I give up lol. Unless there's some air getting into the tub, which I doubt, this is just too much of a pain dealing with the hardness and clump. After I'm done with this, I'm moving on to something else. Maybe the new SuperPump depending on reviews.

me too! if only they can be as fine as meso...

 

[carguy123]

So put Angel Dust Extreme in blender. Never really got it as fine as I was hoping. But still much better. Next day I open tub, it's back to being clumpy and hard. I give up lol. Unless there's some air getting into the tub, which I doubt, this is just too much of a pain dealing with the hardness and clump. After I'm done with this, I'm moving on to something else. Maybe the new SuperPump depending on reviews.

After you finished blending it did you stick it in the fridge or freezer? If not I assume moisture got to it again. I have had pres that were complete bricks, blended them and threw them in the freezer. They did not reclump for like the 5-6 months it took me to finish them off

 

[Rebel1978]

Bought 2 tub of Meso Rocket Pop. I've used DMAA a few years ago, it's been a while, but I handle stims pretty well. I start my workout at 430 every morning, so I'm looking forward to an extra bump. Hopefully I don't crash, I don't remember crashing in the past.

 

[danielmoo]

So put Angel Dust Extreme in blender. Never really got it as fine as I was hoping. But still much better. Next day I open tub, it's back to being clumpy and hard. I give up lol. Unless there's some air getting into the tub, which I doubt, this is just too much of a pain dealing with the hardness and clump. After I'm done with this, I'm moving on to something else. Maybe the new SuperPump depending on reviews.

That's annoying. SP250 shouldn't have similar issues when it's released, I'll try to get you out some samples when the time is nearer.

 

[BigGame84]

After you finished blending it did you stick it in the fridge or freezer? If not I assume moisture got to it again. I have had pres that were complete bricks, blended them and threw them in the freezer. They did not reclump for like the 5-6 months it took me to finish them off

No, I didn't put in fridge. I can try again tonight with the blender and try the fridge.

 

[Rob1882]

No, I didn't put in fridge. I can try again tonight with the blender and try the fridge.

Slacker I posted on that several times

Get on my level

 

[BigGame84]

Slacker I posted on that several times

Get on my level

I did already try that. But that wasn't after using my Vitamix. I just mashed it up with a fork before.

 

[Rob1882]

I did already try that. But that wasn't after using my Vitamix. I just mashed it up with a fork before.

You just said you didn't put it in the fridge

'No, I didn't put in fridge. I can try again tonight with the blender and try the fridge.'

That was the most important aspect

Edit: I keep all of my pre workouts in a fridge all of them I got a fridge just for my supplements I was not joking lol

 

[carguy123]

You just said you didn't put it in the fridge

'No, I didn't put in fridge. I can try again tonight with the blender and try the fridge.'

That was the most important aspect

Edit: I keep all of my pre workouts in a fridge all of them I got a fridge just for my supplements I was not joking lol

Summer time and open pres just do not mix. Alot of the pump ingredients added to these pres are basically sponges for water. Fridge or freezer FTW

 

[Rob1882]

Just also wanted to add how else you dun messed up lulz - By removing it from the tub and putting it into a blender you by doing this exposed it to a massive amount of moisture in the air and pouring it back into the tub without keeping it in a fridge/freezer only likened a further worse state given the added moisture from being open for bit as well dumped into a blender exposed to further air/humidity for even longer and pouring it back in further exposed all the particles.

 

[deuceswild72]

Does all the current mesomorphs out there have the DMAA? I see many people comparing old to new formula and when looking at some profiles all I see is geranburn (spelling may be off).

Curious as I have never used this and have heard great feedback on the one with DMAA.

 

[Rob1882]

Does all the current mesomorphs out there have the DMAA? I see many people comparing old to new formula and when looking at some profiles all I see is geranburn (spelling may be off).

Curious as I have never used this and have heard great feedback on the one with DMAA.

Both versions are available

http://mindandmuscle.net/articles/product/aps-mesomorph/

^ Version 1 With DMAA


http://mindandmuscle.net/articles/product/aps-mesomorph-v2-0-preworkout/
^ Version 2 without DMAA

 

[Alex281]

What's the best flavour for Dust?

 

[Rob1882]

What's the best flavour for Dust?

If you mean the Dust Extreme I still have not yet had Sour Gummy Bear but the Pineapple Mango is very good I like it slight sour/bitters with mango flavoring plays up the pineapple on that end its very good and mixes well.

For Dust V2 I like the Black Lemonade Most followed with the Cotton Candy

 

[Alex281]

If you mean the Dust Extreme I still have not yet had Sour Gummy Bear but the Pineapple Mango is very good I like it slight sour/bitters with mango flavoring plays up the pineapple on that end its very good and mixes well.

For Dust V2 I like the Black Lemonade Most followed with the Cotton Candy

Yes,for extreme version.Stash of pwos running low,need to restock.I just found a great deal on Dust extreme,but they have only mango flavour..

 

[Rob1882]

Yes,for extreme version.Stash of pwos running low,need to restock.I just found a great deal on Dust extreme,but they have only mango flavour..

I would go for it I think its pretty decently flavored and its nice and refreshing not being overly sweet

 

[ELROCK]

Wow

I've never had such amazing long lasting focus in my life and that was on 3/4 of a scoop!!

From which product? Extreme Dust? Sorry there just been a few different ones discussed in this thread.

 

[BRUstrong]

Yes,for extreme version.Stash of pwos running low,need to restock.I just found a great deal on Dust extreme,but they have only mango flavour..

I'd look into Cannibal Riot as well. I have Meso, Dust Extreme, and Riot and like Riot the best so far. It's like Goldie Locks. Meso doesn't get me going that much. Dust Extreme is a bit too much. But Riot is just right. I am very very stim tolerant. I say DE is too much because it seems to get my HR and BP up way more than Riot, which makes sense due to the dosing. If I am simply trying to max on some lifts, DE is the way to go. But if I'm doing higher reps or metcons, there is no way I touch DE. It's just counterproductive. So far Riot has given me great energy/focus and no crash. I have unicorn blood and although it's a stupid name for a flavor, it's good. Better than DE (pineapple mango).

 

[Alex281]

I'd look into Cannibal Riot as well. I have Meso, Dust Extreme, and Riot and like Riot the best so far. It's like Goldie Locks. Meso doesn't get me going that much. Dust Extreme is a bit too much. But Riot is just right. I am very very stim tolerant. I say DE is too much because it seems to get my HR and BP up way more than Riot, which makes sense due to the dosing. If I am simply trying to max on some lifts, DE is the way to go. But if I'm doing higher reps or metcons, there is no way I touch DE. It's just counterproductive. So far Riot has given me great energy/focus and no crash. I have unicorn blood and although it's a stupid name for a flavor, it's good. Better than DE (pineapple mango).

You're taking the US version with Dmaa+Dmha or EU version Dmha only ? I'm curious how Dust extreme or Riot compares to dat dere Craze ?

 

[BlackTiger22]

I'd look into Cannibal Riot as well. I have Meso, Dust Extreme, and Riot and like Riot the best so far. It's like Goldie Locks. Meso doesn't get me going that much. Dust Extreme is a bit too much. But Riot is just right. I am very very stim tolerant. I say DE is too much because it seems to get my HR and BP up way more than Riot, which makes sense due to the dosing. If I am simply trying to max on some lifts, DE is the way to go. But if I'm doing higher reps or metcons, there is no way I touch DE. It's just counterproductive. So far Riot has given me great energy/focus and no crash. I have unicorn blood and although it's a stupid name for a flavor, it's good. Better than DE (pineapple mango).

riot is pretty legit so far

 

[BRUstrong]

You're taking the US version with Dmaa+Dmha or EU version Dmha only ? I'm curious how Dust extreme or Riot compares to dat dere Craze ?

US version. But nothing will compare to Craze

 

[horizons]

From which product? Extreme Dust? Sorry there just been a few different ones discussed in this thread.

Dust extreme

 

[horizons]

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[BigGame84]

Just also wanted to add how else you dun messed up lulz - By removing it from the tub and putting it into a blender you by doing this exposed it to a massive amount of moisture in the air and pouring it back into the tub without keeping it in a fridge/freezer only likened a further worse state given the added moisture from being open for bit as well dumped into a blender exposed to further air/humidity for even longer and pouring it back in further exposed all the particles.

Yeah, it's even worse now. It's so hard and clumpy, I try to use the scoop and I have no clue how much I'm really putting into my Blender Bottle. I guess I'll try the Vitamix again and then immediately put in fridge but it might be past the point of return. I might even ditch the tub and put it in something else as well.

 

[Rob1882]

Yeah, it's even worse now. It's so hard and clumpy, I try to use the scoop and I have no clue how much I'm really putting into my Blender Bottle. I guess I'll try the Vitamix again and then immediately put in fridge but it might be past the point of return. I might even ditch the tub and put it in something else as well.

Maybe you can blend it up again, put it in a mason jar and store that in the freezer.

Be very careful with blending it up tho the particles can go airborn and you do not want to be inhaling a **** ton of stimulants lol

 

[BigGame84]

Maybe you can blend it up again, put it in a mason jar and store that in the freezer.

Be very careful with blending it up tho the particles can go airborn and you do not want to be inhaling a **** ton of stimulants lol

That's already happened lol

 

[Rob1882]

That's already happened lol

I made that mistake once with a non-stim high in BA opened the blender and the partcles got shaken slightly inhaled a **** ton :X tinglez for dayz >< NOT GOOD NOT GOOD AT ALL! lol

Never make that mistake again mask and fine filter cloth lol

 

[Zoomie33240]

Maybe you can blend it up again, put it in a mason jar and store that in the freezer.

Be very careful with blending it up tho the particles can go airborn and you do not want to be inhaling a **** ton of stimulants lol

Haha def been there before. Also, MAKE SURE to take out the "dry-packet" that is supposed to keep the moisture out of the powder. I made the mistake of forgetting the packet in some Focus Xt and blended freaking chemicals into it and ruined an entire tub

 

[carguy123]

Haha def been there before. Also, MAKE SURE to take out the "dry-packet" that is supposed to keep the moisture out of the powder. I made the mistake of forgetting the packet in some Focus Xt and blended freaking chemicals into it and ruined an entire tub

Haha I have done the blend and inhale before, I dont think I have ever coughed so much in my life. But the dry-packet is a new one for me, sorry to laugh at your expense but damn thats pretty funny

 

[EMG81]

I made that mistake once with a non-stim high in BA opened the blender and the partcles got shaken slightly inhaled a **** ton :X tinglez for dayz >< NOT GOOD NOT GOOD AT ALL! lol

Never make that mistake again mask and fine filter cloth lol

Yup. I used to mix up bulk ingredients into ludicrously high-stim preworkouts for my buddies and I, and things occasionally got weird from errors like that.

 

[Volvo140G]

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-deals/284200-top-rated-pre.html

Dust, plus a few other strong stim mixes available here, among others, for 20% off at Nutriverse! That sentence had lots of commas....

 

[KneeOnTiger]

Is this the one that comes in sour gummy? Not the V2, right?

 

[ikeNball]

ANY pre workouts that allow me to monitor my caffeine dosing a little more effectively? (I already take 100-300mg/daily from thermo); I try not to have more than 200mg caffeine in a dose of pre-workout at any given time; advice greatly appreciated! Feel free to PM me

 

[MidwestBeast]

ANY pre workouts that allow me to monitor my caffeine dosing a little more effectively? (I already take 100-300mg/daily from thermo); I try not to have more than 200mg caffeine in a dose of pre-workout at any given time; advice greatly appreciated! Feel free to PM me

I would honestly opt for a non stim if that's the case (like Max Reps, High Volume, Hemavol, etc.). Very few pres with a stim complex are under 200mg caffeine (and many have other stims in addition). Just go that route and pop a caffeine pill or your thermo if you want more.

 

[MidwestBeast]

Haha def been there before. Also, MAKE SURE to take out the "dry-packet" that is supposed to keep the moisture out of the powder. I made the mistake of forgetting the packet in some Focus Xt and blended freaking chemicals into it and ruined an entire tub

At least you noticed.

Only thing worse would have been drinking some silica lol