Is anyone else considering stocking up on designers?

[EasyEJL]

Pointless to stock up. Easy I have a question for you though, have you ever done a cycle of a ph or a steroid?. Just wondering because you said you are gonna stock up...

No, I was going to at the end of october, but i'm holding off a bit longer.

 

[matthew76]

I will say that stocking up is good because when it actually comes time that these PH's are gone, you can make a pretty penny or get some awesome trades

 

[AM07]

I don't understand why everyone is panicking.

A new wave of PHs and designer steroids will be released if all of these end up getting banned.

It's the way every industry works. Once something becomes obsolete, something new comes out to take its place.

 

[DR.D]

Think about it guys, it's really pointless to stock up! If they decide to let it slide and don't ban, then you blew your next paycheck for nothing. But if they do decide to ban the designers (and I would guess they probably will), are you really gonna hold on to those compounds once they're scheduled?! I wouldn't.

 

[vidapreta]

Think about it guys, it's really pointless to stock up! If they decide to let it slide and don't ban, then you blew your next paycheck for nothing. But if they do decide to ban the designers (and I would guess they probably will), are you really gonna hold on to those compounds once they're scheduled?! I wouldn't.

Wouldn't the fact that you bought them when they were legal sort of grandfather you in, if you know what i mean??

 

[EasyEJL]

For those sorts of things, its generally against the sale of the items, not necessarily possession. I personally am more concerned with a silent ban - more of what happened with 3-AD, raws being blocked by customs.

 

[DR.D]

Wouldn't the fact that you bought them when they were legal sort of grandfather you in, if you know what i mean??

I'm not sure to be honest, but if they actually schedule the structure on a list like they did M1T for example, then I imagine that's not cool to retain, grandfather or not. I personally tossed anything even remotely questionable, just because I don't want the drama! Be smart guys, if they make it illegal, then dump your stock. If you stock up on "gray" stuff now, that's just more money you have to toss if they end up banning it. That's why I said, it's pointless to stock up. It will either still be available and legit or it won't. Know what I mean?

 

[LiftNDestroy]

Pretty much have decided to stay natural, but I might grab an extra bottle of Epi, or 2 for a rainy day.

 

[AE14]

I actually just ordered a few myself. Gotta get'em while you can

 

[Movin_weight]

they will be available for at least several months from now, maybe not at the planet b/c they seem like they are trying to dump there prods. and get out of that market for now... but you'll still be able to get them... i mean you can still find the original AX superdrol if you look hard enough, i'm not gonna trip just yet

on another note whats the deal with research chems? I thought they were perfectly legit to sell for that purpose?

 

[Hank Vangut]

I'm not sure to be honest, but if they actually schedule the structure on a list like they did M1T for example, then I imagine that's not cool to retain, grandfather or not. I personally tossed anything even remotely questionable, just because I don't want the drama! Be smart guys, if they make it illegal, then dump your stock. If you stock up on "gray" stuff now, that's just more money you have to toss if they end up banning it. That's why I said, it's pointless to stock up. It will either still be available and legit or it won't. Know what I mean?

do you think that people were dumping their personal stock when things like 1-test/4-AD were suddenly banned? i think not.

i understand supp companies eliminating their stock but individual users who purchased prior to the ban?

 

[pistonpump]

i picked up what i could from SM. the sale was good in my eyes whether or not a ban will occur or a shortage. I really wanted to try halodrol type compound but they were sold out quick. i just got 2 m14add, 2 pplex, 2 pherabol. I still have some sdrol clone and i dont really like it too much anyways. Scare tactic or not its a good sale.

 

[MentalTwitch]

Ok so i heard nothing abou this...
Where is Epistane? M-drol? did these get banned? not on nutra...WTF?!

 

[pistonpump]

i have to disagree with Dr D and gixx. Why would you have to throw the stuff out? Unless you have a trail leading to you and steroids why would you have to worry about anyone knowing you even have the stuff. If you have cases of the stuff then thats different but bottles? Throw em with the rest of the supplements nobody will even know what is illegal and whats not.

 

[MentalTwitch]

Ok im freakin out guys! i wanted to run superdrol(M -Drol) soon and Epistane. MOD EDIT: No asking for sources.
Oh man, guess ill have to wokr on gettin the "real deal" eventually....:sad:

 

[EasyEJL]

Ok im freakin out guys! i wanted to run superdrol(M -Drol) soon and Epistane. So theres no chance of me gettin now unless one of you guys hook it up...?
Oh man, guess ill have to wokr on gettin the "real deal" eventually....:sad:

It is still available elsewhere

 

[MentalTwitch]

First of all, relax. Panicing never helped anyone. You can still find these products with relative ease by doing a simple search.

haha i wasnt really freakin out...haha. i wasnt panicing over this. It just would have been bothered by it. I did search on google and found a site. now i needs a pay check so i can make it happen.

 

[Dr Packenwood]

After reading Dr. D's comment, I'm changing my mind on stocking up. I'll continue to buy until those that make the decisions for me decide that they are dangerous and illegal. At that point I will willingly destroy my entire supply.

 

[AM07]

What is M1,4ADD? Is it methylated version of 1,4ADD? What are these two compounds used for? Are they very toxic?

 

[adil]

M1,4,ADD is the PH to dbol, some report less water retention than dbol though

 

[yeahright]

Wouldn't the fact that you bought them when they were legal sort of grandfather you in, if you know what i mean??

No. Possession of a controlled substance doesn't have a grandfather clause.

 

[yeahright]

i have to disagree with Dr D and gixx. Why would you have to throw the stuff out? Unless you have a trail leading to you and steroids why would you have to worry about anyone knowing you even have the stuff.

People who work in the supplement industry such as Dr.D have reason to be cautious because they do in fact have trails leading back to them. Most other people used credit cards with their online merchants and in fact have trails leading to them. Will the government use sales records to get search warrants for small time purchases who may have consumed the products....probably not. However, if I was a high profile person in an industry experiencing a crackdown, I'd make sure that I was squeaky clean.

 

[AM07]

M1,4,ADD is the PH to dbol, some report less water retention than dbol though

How many capsules of M1,4ADD are needed in order to feel similar effects one would achieve from using DBol?

 

[adil]

its around a 20% conversion rate IIRC, so you can work it out from there

 

[pistonpump]

People who work in the supplement industry such as Dr.D have reason to be cautious because they do in fact have trails leading back to them. Most other people used credit cards with their online merchants and in fact have trails leading to them. Will the government use sales records to get search warrants for small time purchases who may have consumed the products....probably not. However, if I was a high profile person in an industry experiencing a crackdown, I'd make sure that I was squeaky clean.

my thoughts exactly. If only NP linked to there sister site SM...Sale is still going i say pick stuff up now if you plan on using it in the future. You wont find prices like this anywhere else. If you know the place that is. If you dont then good, more for me next payday!! lol.

 

[vidapreta]

No. Possession of a controlled substance doesn't have a grandfather clause.

So are you gonna throw all your stuff out? Because I think that's crazy talk.

 

[MentalTwitch]

Anyone who is throwing there stuff away as a small time user is no offense, dumb. I see no reason to sweat small time buys or even stock up 7+ things purchases. Ill be your garbage if you want casuse ill just "hide" them or leave them somewhere. Why isnt anyone do that? Leave them at a friends/parents/work/garage? I mean i think its a lil extreme to toss 200+ $ of PH/Supps.:think:

 

[Jet]

Anyone who is throwing there stuff away as a small time user is no offense, dumb. I see no reason to sweat small time buys or even stock up 7+ things purchases. Ill be your garbage if you want casuse ill just "hide" them or leave them somewhere. Why isnt anyone do that? Leave them at a friends/parents/work/garage? I mean i think its a lil extreme to toss 200+ $ of PH/Supps.:think:

I agree, I don't really see the point.

It's extremely unlikely that a DEA agent will ever look through your medicine cabinet/freezer, and if they ever do, you're obviously in a lot of trouble already for something else.

It's also highly unlikely that you would ever be prosecuted for possessing designers that you owned before a ban was put into effect. I'm all for respecting laws, but there's no need to live in such extreme terror of the government that you're throwing away hundreds of dollars of supplements that were legal when you initially purchased them.

 

[vidapreta]

I agree, I don't really see the point.

It's extremely unlikely that a DEA agent will ever look through your medicine cabinet/freezer, and if they ever do, you're obviously in a lot of trouble already for something else.

It's also highly unlikely that you would ever be prosecuted for possessing designers that you owned before a ban was put into effect. I'm all for respecting laws, but there's no need to live in such extreme terror of the government that you're throwing away hundreds of dollars of supplements that were legal when you initially purchased them.

I agree totally.

 

[EasyEJL]

it all depends on how (if at all) they ban them anyhow. A silent ban by stopping raws at customs is easy enough, or enforcing existing laws + DSHEA. very few of the available compounds would pass.

 

[yeahright]

So are you gonna throw all your stuff out? Because I think that's crazy talk.

I never advised anyone to throw their products away if the government makes them illegal. I simply explained that there is no such thing as "grandfathering" possession of controlled substances. If the govt decides to outlaw DHEA, then you could introduce as a mitigating factor that you purchased it while it was legal and didn't understand that the law effected you...but you're still guilty. How that would effect your sentence would depend upon a number of other factors.

 

[jomi822]

i plan on picking up 10 more p-plex and 10 more m-drol.

god i love m-drol. tomorrow is my last day of a cycle at 30mgs a day for a month. ba bam

 

[riskarb]

DPS had the full-line of CEL products and Epi as well.

 

[AM07]

i plan on picking up 10 more p-plex and 10 more m-drol.

god i love m-drol. tomorrow is my last day of a cycle at 30mgs a day for a month. ba bam

Is M-Drol an exact clone of Superdrol?

 

[Movin_weight]

lol 20 bottles, damn! the price is amazing tho at SM... i need to quit visiting this thread of i'm gonna blow next month's bills on f*ckin designers!!!

 

[pistonpump]

i dont understand why all the halodrol clones were gone so quick but the mdrol is still there?

 

[PumpingIron]

i dont understand why all the halodrol clones were gone so quick but the mdrol is still there?

stock.

 

[ReaperX]

Lol. I agree that it is pointless stocking up on designers. If they ban it, then something else is gonna come out. If not then its not too hard to go underground.

You think that no one can find 'green' anymore cuz it is illegal ? haha...if there is a demand, there will be a market legal or not.

 

[PumpingIron]

you can grow weed in your backyard, you cant synthesize chemicals just anywhere...

 

[pistonpump]

you can grow weed in your backyard, you can synthesize chemicals just anywhere...

i suppose you meant cant.
i agree. chemicals are different, you need the raws to start with which will be alot more controlled then a weed plant that produces seeds etc. I honestly dont think there is too much more out there to be made up like the recent designers. You can do only so much i would think. THere can be only so many effective steroids created, or am i wrong.

 

[ReaperX]

i suppose you meant cant.
i agree. chemicals are different, you need the raws to start with which will be alot more controlled then a weed plant that produces seeds etc. I honestly dont think there is too much more out there to be made up like the recent designers. You can do only so much i would think. THere can be only so many effective steroids created, or am i wrong.

There are plenty that are effective out there, there's no doubt about that. There probably will continue to be more innovative substances made, but with the current ones there is no shortage. I wouldn't be surprised if all these hole-in-the-wall companies who make H-Drol, Superdrol, whatever, once the heat picks up, just drops their company name, and sells under a new one.


Illegal or not illegal if you look hard enough you'll find something eventually.

 

[PumpingIron]

Reaper, where do you think the raws come from? The suppliers are mainly in China, and with the recent events, they may not be able to, or want to do that business anymore.

 

[MentalTwitch]

Can some one please PM the sites above that are just given as 2 letters? i have one site now but i wanted tocompare prices here and there.

 

[PumpingIron]

MT, read the rules again and again and again...

 

[Movin_weight]

i just have to ask in all honastly how long do you guys plan on running these drugs? people that are buying 30+ bottles... i mean if you run 2 cycles a year thats enough sh*t for like 10-15 years?!? yeah you could sell stuff but i dunno just seems excessive

i can understand picking up a few bottles b/c the price is truly great, but i dunno about blowin a whole paycheck or maxin a credit card over this type of thing

lol but whatever, i'll be the one PM'n you guys in a year and payin 100 bucks for a bottle of this sh*t

 

[pistonpump]

MT, read the rules again and again and again...

:trout: doh! :nutkick: :banned: no asking for sources

 

[Hank Vangut]

:trout: doh! :nutkick: :banned: no asking for sources

does SM really count as a "source"? it's a sister company of one of a board sponsors.

 

[ReaperX]

Reaper, where do you think the raws come from? The suppliers are mainly in China, and with the recent events, they may not be able to, or want to do that business anymore.

Mexico/Europe.

It is legal to buy stuff there at the pharmacy. You cannot sell it to other people though, but personal purchasing is legal.

 

[pistonpump]

hahahaha i guess not. its not illegal as of yet so its okay. i just jumped the gun. im sure someone has already let him know right?

 

[ReaperX]

Well, ok designers if that's what you really want then it might make sense to stock up.

For the 'real stuff' my previous posts explains that.