igf-2 rox..love being on it..i slee better and am def stronger..great supplement
Your body weight is roughly half-way between the recommended 9 capsules per day for 200 lbs and 12 capsules per day for 250+ pounds. Since you are trying to gain quality lean mass, I would recommend 12 capsules. For perspective, I weigh about 237 and take 15 caps per day.If Im 6-2 220 9.4% Body Fat, And Trying To Add Solid Pounds, What Is The Optimum Dosage And Times To Take Them At? I Lift At 3:15 Pm And Get Up Around 10:00 Am.
weird. this is for a cut, and starting monday I'll be alternating venom and lipotropin am each week, so I'm not that concerned about it. just curious.I don't recall anyone experiencing that with IGF-2, maybe someone else has
Probably a surge in testosterone levels. Elevated testosterone levels trigger appetite.Well, I'm only on day two now, but I've been ravenously hungry since yesterday morning. About an hour after I passed out last night, I actually woke up out of sheer hunger, and ran to the fridge.
Is this a normal reaction? I'm stacking with Drive.
This is why I mention IGF-2 as my favorite bulking product...lol.Probably a surge in testosterone levels. Elevated testosterone levels trigger appetite.
IGF-2 and Activate Extreme make for a mean muscle gain/bulking stack.I read earlier in this thread that "ice" was taking dth and igf-2.. This stack sounds interesting to me.anyways, could i run igf-2, dth, and stoked at the same time? if I was to take this stack would I have any shutdown? Would it be testosterone overload? should i take out the stoked and replace it with Activate X? I think that this stack would be pretty mean! what do yall think?:twisted:
DTHI read earlier in this thread that "ice" was taking dth and igf-2.. This stack sounds interesting to me.anyways, could i run igf-2, dth, and stoked at the same time? if I was to take this stack would I have any shutdown? Would it be testosterone overload? should i take out the stoked and replace it with Activate X? I think that this stack would be pretty mean! what do yall think?:twisted:
Which is why I recommended stacking with Activate Extreme (in post #70). Or, yes, you could stack straight with Divanex, as it's the active ingredient in AX. This would probably be the best stack....
Having this said would it not be a good idea to combine with a free test boosting product like divinex
the only reservation I would have is that IGF-2 should be taken on an empty stomach to maximize GH effects- but ZMA may make you pretty nauseous if you take it w/o food....Would there be any conflict by taking IGF-2 and ZMA at bedtime?
Logical question/comment- yes, you are correct- and it is a valid statement, and I do think it could add to the efficacy of the product.well all this reading about how this product increses test but NOT free test. Whats the point of have all that extra test if its going to get bound up? wouldnt that be like having 1000hp and reving it in neutral, also im not bashing just courious.
Having increasd test for too long can be detramental to health.
Having this said would it not be a good idea to combine with a free test boosting product like divinex
Most definitely. I used to do that all the time.Is it okay to take drive and rpm with the morning empty stomach dose of IGF-2?
There is no reason to take Cycle Support while using IGF-2.This is an unusual question but would taking something like cycle support be beneficial with IGF-2? My blood pressure has been really quite high as of late... nothing dangerous since it's a short term thing but I'm averaging about 155/95 resting and I'm not taking more than the recommended amount. I'm probably going to cut out coffee and RPM completely and see if that does enough on its own before I think about adding anything else, but I've been going light on those already anyway.
Let's get one thing straight: IGF-2 is NOT hormonal.And my other question which is probably going to get me made fun of but I really don't understand even after reading up... if the safed musli artificially introduces a chemical which converts to testosterone, how does this not affect natural production in any way? Is it just so small that it's not worth worrying about or is there something else I don't understand going on here? I'm not comfortable with the explanation "natural ingredients can't hurt you" which is all people have given me so far, because quite honestly it's a completely ignorant stance. Belladonna is completely natural but I'm sure as hell not going to start eating it.
Yes, it's fine to be concerned for your health. And good on you for researching a product before blindly using it. However, from your words it seems that you assuming that IGF-2 is hormonal. Be assured that it is NOT.Hopefully you guys can understand my concern for my health and realize that I completely understand this isn't near the same as some of the harsh things that people on these boards take but I still care to try to keep myself safe. I just want some answers beyond "lol ur dum it's natural."
I understand that there are no active hormones in the plant/pill, however this description does not make sense to me. Is the idea that desoxydiosgenin is naturally found in the body? A google search would have me believe otherwise since all mentions of this compound show up in reference to this supplement or one other from a different company and almost any naturally occurring compound will have at least one study or biology text mentioning it.Let's get one thing straight: IGF-2 is NOT hormonal.
Clarification: Safed Musli (i.e. Chlorophytum Borivilianum) does not ARTIFICIALLY introduce a chemical; it CONTAINS Spirosta-steroidal saponins, which are NATURAL intermediates in the hormonal pathways of the body. One of those intermeidates, desoxydiosgenin, can be converted into 11-oxa-5 alpha-androstane-3,17-dione, which can in turn be converted into testosterone (Johns, 1970; Salvi, Mukhurjee & Engel, 1986).
IGF-2 affects natural production yes, but not from an EXOgenous source (i.e. an exogenous source would be a steroid). The Spirosta-steroidal saponins in Safed Musli are ENDOgenous (i.e. naturally created within the body). Therefore, IGF-2 WILL raise testosterone levels, but withIN the body's NATURAL LIMITS!
Not that I am aware of. Although anyone who has/at risk for male pattern baldness may experience it (albeit this would not be because of the product, but because of their inclination towards it).Any risk of hair loss associated with IGF-2?
RPMI've been taking Drive and Rpm for a little over a month now with great results! I just ordered another bottle of Drive and RPM along with IGF-2 and Neovar. I'm wondering what I should do for the dosing of Neovar and IGF-2 when adding it into my current stack. I'm 225, taking 3 drive in the morning and 3 preworkout with 4 rpm preworkout. Thanks in advance!
No worries. Look forward to great things. Let us know how it goes.Thanks a lot I'm really excited to see what this stack can do!
Yep, the other effects should be noticeable soon, especially muscle hardness and fullness (I notice this in the first few days, along with the elimination of DOMS and better sleep), gains in strength and endurance (keep building weekly) and libido increases (will hit you harder, being a male; MY libido is very dependent on my moods).been on 3 days loving the sleep, only been getting 6-7hours but feel great!! hopefully in a week i should start noticing the other effects i will keep posted on results!
The IGF-2 will NOT be causing your nipple sensitivity/soreness. And FYI, it is NOT a hormonal product!!!yeah muscle hardness is there with in 3 days, skin a little oily, sleep still amazing! Hitting the gym tonight so will report on endurance/strength increases!
one thing i'm slightly concerned about is my nipples being sore now, (i have never done a pro-hormone cycle or steroids) i have always had sensitive nipples since a teenager, now on IGF-2 they have become extremely sensitive! debating whether to stop right away or give it a few more days to see if symptoms persist!
brand new never washed polo shirts without a t-shirt underneath do that to me every timei did wear a new shirt when i noticed it so possible me being paranoid and its just irritation, just obviously the only new supplement im testing, so it was the logical thing to bring it up!
i get spotty arms from my tshirt sleeves rubbing against my skin. well my gf tells me thats why they get spotty!brand new never washed polo shirts without a t-shirt underneath do that to me every time
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