Yeah, I wonder how I'll be feeling tomorrow. Haha.....
Yea when I start IF I feel the same way. So for this to give instant energy during that time it's amazing.I follow IF protocol, and had it 20 minutes pre-workout. Ever since I've started cutting my endurance has been shot, but I managed to pull off things I normally did without feeling drained.
Actually I've been doing IF for 2 years now, but this is the first time in awhile (6-7 months) that I'm dropping the calories low to cut.Yea when I start IF I feel the same way. So for this to give instant energy during that time it's amazing.
Trust me, endurance lasted all week. Looking forward to this week coming and see if strength goes up.
I haven't done IF in a while. Might be time to do so soon.Actually I've been doing IF for 2 years now, but this is the first time in awhile (6-7 months) that I'm dropping the calories low to cut.
I used to always do 2700 on workout days, 2400 on off days. Now I'm doing 2400 on workout days, and 2100 on off days. Currently sitting at 198 lbs and just trying to keep/raise my strength.I haven't done IF in a while. Might be time to do so soon.
What's your calorie count?
Well trying to retain strength at leastYou are cutting calories, already on IF, and trying to get stronger? Man, good luck with that.
Right now it's to maintain my strength (I guess increasing it is overzealous), lose some body fat, and condition myself for sports. I've already lowered all of my training maxes to compensate for the increased conditioning I've been doing. Realistically though, I know I will lose strength though (and I probably have, because I'm struggling with my lowered training maxes)What is your goal, other than fat loss? I mean, why are you doing this? I see this going badly because you are wanting to keep up endurance, increase intensity (to get stronger or maintain while on cut), and cut your calories. All of that doesn't work together and your body will let you know. I just don't see that FD is going to help.
Maybe I am missing something.
YGPM! Also, sorry halfhuman for hijacking your log.Man, I would love to discuss this with you because what you are doing is counter intuitive, especially now that you mention conditioning for sports. However, this is Halfhuman's log and I am not going to hijack it.
Again, I wish you luck.
It's cool. No worries. These discussions are fine. I hate when there's discussions that are Irrelevant.Man, I would love to discuss this with you because what you are doing is counter intuitive, especially now that you mention conditioning for sports. However, this is Halfhuman's log and I am not going to hijack it. Again, I wish you luck.
It's cool. Keep it going. No worries fellas. Good discussion anyway.YGPM! Also, sorry halfhuman for hijacking your log.
I'll try to keep it going through PM. I'm thinking I should just raise my calories back up a bit since I'm doing additional work (through conditioning). This is the heaviest weight I've been at in years so I guess I'm getting too hasty with trying to lose weight/BF.It's cool. Keep it going. No worries fellas. Good discussion anyway.
I agree. That's what u should do. Raise your calories a bit. You'll be goodI'll try to keep it going through PM. I'm thinking I should just raise my calories back up a bit since I'm doing additional work (through conditioning). This is the heaviest weight I've been at in years so I guess I'm getting too hasty with trying to lose weight/BF.
I stopped counting but I am going to start paying close attention to it.How many carbs are you eating on workout days.
I'm tight. I just wrote a lot and it didn't post smh. LolWait, so you are going to eat high carbs only on one day and then keep it <60 the rest? How is that going to impact your workout days? I don't see how this fits into any of the 4 carb cycle diets I have ever read about.
Here we go again lol.Wait, so you are going to eat high carbs only on one day and then keep it <60 the rest? How is that going to impact your workout days? I don't see how this fits into any of the 4 carb cycle diets I have ever read about.
Ya it seems like its effects on exercise capacity are acute because even the guys 1-2 days in are talking about it.My second dose had me going much longer than normal. That seems to be the scenario across the board so far.
Oh yah....if your FASTING strength is def not gonna go up. THings tank out super fast. One of my training partners was prepping for a show.Yup. Now that I am conditioning I think I will bump it up to 2700-2900 everyday
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Yup. I've decided to up the cals to just try a recomp insteadOh yah....if your FASTING strength is def not gonna go up. THings tank out super fast. One of my training partners was prepping for a show.
He was looking pretty chubby and he was 8 weeks out so he Hired Dave Palumbo. Dave put him on a a diet with 2 days low carb and 1 day no carb diet.
He lost the bodyfat but his bench dropped from 405 to 275 in a few weeks.....
Good luck....I doubt youll maintain let alone gain. Even with Follidrone.
Smart manYup. I've decided to up the cals to just try a recomp instead
Yeah. Got multiple people giving me advice and I figured it's not worth wasting Follidrone and I'd rather be heavier with more LBM than just "lighter".Smart man
Exactly.Yeah. Got multiple people giving me advice and I figured it's not worth wasting Follidrone and I'd rather be heavier with more LBM than just "lighter".
I was cutting for 4 months, could probably cut another 8 before I'd be satisfied, but I switched to a recomp because I'd rather gain some muscle and lose fat slower, than lose fat and lose a good chunk of muscle, but I am not a competitor nor Do I ever plan to so this is just my personal preference ATMYup. I've decided to up the cals to just try a recomp instead
I think this is a good idea. Since you have free Follidrone Id take advantage of its effects.Yup. I've decided to up the cals to just try a recomp instead
He is a smart dude, just looking to go the right path. He needs to up the calories, keep high GI carbs in play after his workouts, and the make sure not to mess with his macros for the rest of the day and on off days.I think this is a good idea. Since you have free Follidrone Id take advantage of its effects.
So far pretty much everyone is documenting improvements in exercise performance plus muscle fullness.
I expect strength to follow.
My worst enemy has always been late night carbs.....I get so hungry...Ill wake up and eat in the middle of the night because my metabolism is so fast.He is a smart dude, just looking to go the right path. He needs to up the calories, keep high GI carbs in play after his workouts, and the make sure not to mess with his macros for the rest of the day and on off days.
People don't always get what it takes to make your body stay happy when you increase the intensity of your workouts. I have always looked at like, 'ok, I am shocking my body and mind, I need to satisfy them with what comforts them. Food and rest.'
Yea trying to sleep when it feels like your stomach is caving in is almost impossibleMy worst enemy has always been late night carbs.....I get so hungry...Ill wake up and eat in the middle of the night because my metabolism is so fast. I try to eat trail mix as the nuts slow digestion a bit. Still starving when I wake.
For a guy like me that has always kind of been the running joke with what I can eat, IF has been crazy in terms of mind over matter. Now I simply eat 1500-2000 calories in a single meal. It certainly hasn't helped the jokes, but whatever. lolYea trying to sleep when it feels like your stomach is caving in is almost impossible
d!ck......I have had two-three pb+j sandwiches for the last 10 years along with a 24oz glass of milk. My wife laughs because it is clockwork. And I mean like maybe 2-3oz of pb on each one. My last meal of the day basically is 60g protein, 20g carbs, and whatever fat. Every. single. night.
Woohoo to genetics! ......and trt
2000 cal meal? Whoa mama. Has to be fast foods lolFor a guy like me that has always kind of been the running joke with what I can eat, IF has been crazy in terms of mind over matter. Now I simply eat 1500-2000 calories in a single meal. It certainly hasn't helped the jokes, but whatever. lol
Man, i can't do that. Unless I had gotten almost all my calories and it's a later dinner or something and I'm starving lol. Pop 2 recompadrol before that meal lol.i love 2,000 calorie "clean meals," so much volume in my opinion its so satisfying. former fatty, so i use my post workout meal as a 1,500 calorie, 200+g of carb bonanza, and i love it
I love loading up on fast food lol. Value menu all the way!2000 cal meal? Whoa mama. Has to be fast foods lol
Helps save for more supps lmfaoI love loading up on fast food lol. Value menu all the way!
No fast foods here. I mean, if I take my kids every now and then I will grab a burger or something, but I don't go myself. At least a few times a week I don't feel like eating that much, so I fill in the rest with a shake.2000 cal meal? Whoa mama. Has to be fast foods lol
Show'em watcha got half!Woke up at 7:30 and popped a pill at 8:15. Gym at 8:45am. Lets goooooo!
I never eat from fast foods. Lol. My pregnant wife and son stay eating there every day. If I eat a burger in which I love, I'll eat it from a good spot. Like Bareburgers. MmmmmmNo fast foods here. I mean, if I take my kids every now and then I will grab a burger or something, but I don't go myself. At least a few times a week I don't feel like eating that much, so I fill in the rest with a shake. 24oz milk 330cal 2 scoop protein 280cal 2 greek yog 300 cal 2 scoop pb 300 choc malt 120 Boom, right there is 1330 cal. And I will slam that in about 30 sec.
Ohhh bro, I killed it.Show'em watcha got half!
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