You remind me of something I read recently. "I have won many argument against intelligent people. But somehow I have lost every argument against an idiot."
An idiot hiding behind a pile of mumbo jumbo is invincible. lol
Once more, at the very least you can have the balls to post a direct insult.
P.S. You see, the reason I don't care to read nor rebutt your mumbo jumbo is, because it is a complete waste of time. As for my foreign experience and my education and career attainment, hmmm..... yeah... I am sooooooo desperately in need of your recognition.
:rofl: See ya.
If it's mumbo jumbo then it's easily refuted. The most likely reason you're not replying because you can't. Personally I don't care if you do or not, I'm not trying to change your mind, just offerring a counter argument to what I see as faulty reasoning.
I don't read longwinded mumbo jumbo. People who write that kind of BS, never have a real job in their lives. If they had, they would know how to be concise and get to the point. I have no interest in reading BS from people who have no real world experience.
Your presumptuousness in what experience other people do and do not have, what jobs they do and do not hold is pretty amazing. I've never made assumptions about your life because, quite simply, I don't know anything about it. That you can't return the favor and concentrate on arguments instead of throwing insults around is a pretty definitive indicator of the strength of your views.
I am not terribly interested in furthering the education of such people. I point the direction. They can go further their education by exploring on their own. I am not freaking spoon feeding them.
Generally people with so little humility that they think they're every utterance is "educating" a deprived and mislead populace aren't worth listening to. Education implies learning, which means the ability to admit fault and change one's views in light of new information or points of view. I have changed my view on this war, and may still do so yet based on new information coming out of Iraq concerning Saddam's intentions. That's something you seem relatively immune to though. So you've either got the stranglehold on the truth of this situation or you're merely comfortably happy in a world insullated from reality. The insults you throw at others and myself are more likely a reflection of your own faults and limitations, whether you're aware of them or not.
In Japan, the Koreans living there, have for years blindly hallucinate that North Korea under the brutal and barbaric regime of the depot Kim the mass murderers, is paradise on earth.
In South Korea, there are a huge group of crazies who blindly believe in the same delusion.
In Russia, there are still those who think so fondly of one of history's biggest mass murderers, Stalin.
In Europe, there are those who call themselve enlightened democracy and human right advocates who to this day, venomously oppose the depose of that mass murderer Saddam.
It is obvious that in every society, there is a group of deluded people who would shamelessly betray all that they pretend to champion, and warmly embrace evil.
Our responsibility, as citizen of the free world and democracy, is to safeguard our institutions from these corruptors of human liberty.
They are harmless, as long as they are being reduced to only venting and ranting on internet forum.
This seems an odd rant, but the gist of it seems to be that you and those in your "camp" have taken it upon yourselves to save the unwashed heathen masses of the world from themselves. While that's very generous of you and your "camp," past attempts at such saving have ended in utter disaster.
You see the world as black and white, and more importantly as perfectable. Was Saddam evil? Yes. But whether or not the world, Iraq, or indeed the US is better off without him is a question that can only be answered in the context of what he is replaced with, and that is yet to be determined.
Advance liberty? I assume you like other neocons are trying to advance liberty through such actions as the unprovoked invasions of sovereign nations, repeated attempts to establish political and cultural hegemony, forcing people who might not want the life you choose to live according to your views, and the wholesale destruction of life and personal property that come with those methods. That is counter productive to the goal of advancing liberty.
Liberty is choice, and choice is an individual matter. In trying to deliver liberal democracy to the unwashed of the world you are no different than the misguided liberals here at home who try to deliver their version of freedom to whatever oppressed minority they take a shine to. And
that is the connection you seem to missing, that Mises and Rothbard and other Austrians made a long time ago and that you, while you claim familiarity and even kinship with that viewpoint, seem utterly oblivious to. 'Freedom' delivered by force, at the point of a gun, necessarily destroys the institutions that are necessary for actual freedom to take root and thrive. It is the enforcement of one view on many, one life on many, one goal on many, one form of government on many, and that many can and will eventually come back to bite you in the ass.
The difference in views here is between positive and negative liberty. Positive liberty is merely modern social liberalism, freedom through government empowerment. Negative liberty, the traditional and correct view of liberty in my opinion, recognizes that active government intervention in the world is
destructive of personal freedom, and seeks to guarantee freedom through a series of
restraints on government action. Positive liberty is the love child liberal and conservative statists who want to empower one part of society and create their view of a perfect world. That they have to oppress or otherwise silence those who might not choose that same path is a quietly acknowledged but never voiced consequence of that view. Negative liberty recognizes that rights are not granted by the government, but taken and held by force by the people. It is because freedom and liberty originate in individual choices an actions that the only truly successful advancement of liberty has to find its impetus and main support
locally. It has to be born and thrive locally, be home cooked not delivered like a pizza. We here in the US were happy to accept French help during our revolution, but we had already pledged our lives and our sacred honor to the advancement of that end. I've seen no such pledge from the Iraqis. They did not start this fight and ask us for help, we delivered it upon them at our own convenience and for our own ends.
I truly hope you are correct. I hope a liberal democracy takes hold in Iraq and the rest of the middle east follows them or at least gets moderated to a certain extent by their presence. I hope with all my heart and soul that happens, because if it doesn't there are a couple thousand dead Americans and tens of thousands of dead Iraqis who lost their lives for nothing. That is the risk you and your "camp" have taken, that is the path you have lead us down. History seems to be against your success.
"Rights may be universal but their enforcement must be local." - Murray Rothbard.
