very true (same thing I experienced)yes i noticed some shedding, either run a pulse cycle or dont go longer than 4 weeks for a normal cycle. pretty much the longer you run it the more hair youll lose.
very true (same thing I experienced)yes i noticed some shedding, either run a pulse cycle or dont go longer than 4 weeks for a normal cycle. pretty much the longer you run it the more hair youll lose.
Just thought that I would chime in since I seem to be the only person who has had a bad experience with Havoc. First let me say that I hadn't tried any hormonal products in a couple of years becouse gyno seems to spring up as soon as I start. Usually progestine related I believe because nolva does nothing for it and if I squeze my nipple real hard fluid comes out. After reading abuot havoc and epi I decided this sounded like the perfect sup for me. So I started my cycle planning to do 30/30/40/40. After 10 days I was up 8 pounds and feeling great then my left nipple started hurting. I started taking nolva and b6 and reduced my dosage to 20mg. by day 14 my nipple was still hurting and getting puffy so I terminated the cycle and started post cycle therapy
I beleive that hair growth in places you don't want it is caused by dht the same hormone that causes shedding.i was under the impression that epi/havoc caused hair growth in places you don't want hair. not hair shedding.
Maybe. The thing is if I'm not using any kind of outside hormone I am fine. The gyno subsides a day or two after I discontinue use.that is an interesting condition, u should definitely go see a Dr. about that...
I am a fan of 2 weekers.. you guys think Epi would have much use here?yes i noticed some shedding, either run a pulse cycle or dont go longer than 4 weeks for a normal cycle. pretty much the longer you run it the more hair youll lose.
probally cause it starts working and you can "FEEL" it by day 7.. but really kicks ass weeks 3 and 4.... and 5 and 6... but then you get to choose how shut down you wanna get for the length of your cycle...I am a fan of 2 weekers.. you guys think Epi would have much use here?
Also questioning the hairloss.. when did you start seeing the hairloss and would you expect any on a high dose pulse cycle?
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/62121-how-pulse-orals.htmlWould someone kindly explain the "pulse" concept? I am assuming this 1 day on 1 day off dosing or something of the sort...
YEAHYA thats awesome rpen our the man i went looking for that thread earlier to link it for him then the kiddo got me side tracted.... hes awesome though
chest wed
DB (or BB) press
incline DB press
seated machined flys
Decline DB Press
pec flys
Back thurs
BB lat pull down
iso cable rows
iso cable lat pulldown
BB super shrug (reverse grip curl bar pulled from hips to below chin.)
shoulders/tris fri
arnold press
machined lateral raises
machined shoulder press
over head BB skull crusher
reg grip individual cable tris press
reverse grip bb cable tris
Legs sat
Squats
leg curls
leg raises
leg press followed by calf presses 10/15
off sun
arms mon
DB curl 3x10-15
BB curl/reverse BB curl alternating
1x10/1x10/1x10/1x10/1x10/1x10/1x10/1x10
cable curls 4x10
BB Tri pull down 4x10
BB Tri press down 4x10
BB skull crushers 4x10
off tues
How much hair we talking about here? Did all of it grow back?very true (same thing I experienced)
How much hair we talking about here? Did all of it grow back?
thats for sure, day 8 and i felt it kick in yesterday during chestprobally cause it starts working and you can "FEEL" it by day 7.. but really kicks ass weeks 3 and 4.... and 5 and 6... but then you get to choose how shut down you wanna get for the length of your cycle...
i had quite a bit loss, so i shaved my head...........its easier that way anyway! LOL!How much hair we talking about here? Did all of it grow back?
:jaw:i had quite a bit loss, so i shaved my head...........its easier that way anyway! LOL!
you are in for a surprise! phera did me worse than epi! just shave it now! :lol:well im on day 8 of epistane. cant comment much considering im also on day 24PHERAPLEX AX. starting tomm phera goes to 10mg and EPISTANE bumps to 30-40 we shall see how it goes.
sounds like a good cycle...how much weight you up so far?well im on day 8 of epistane. cant comment much considering im also on day 24PHERAPLEX AX. starting tomm phera goes to 10mg and EPISTANE bumps to 30-40 we shall see how it goes.
well last 2 days ive been alittle heaveirsounds like a good cycle...how much weight you up so far?
Fit are you a guy or a girl? I think I'm confused.
Neo you crack me up that and your avatar are to much. Its bad when your girl is bigger and more shredded. lmao:toofunny:That's why it's weird for me cause with your name it's like meeting a guy named "clair" which I have etc, he was ****ing huge man big BB'r. It's cause your name is, in my world, usually associated with:
But what the hey, as long as you feel sexy and love yourself doesn't matter if people mistake you for a girl....right?
I checked your profile as well there's no information there, been here long?
Much Love,
Neoborn
it's the same compound, just different brands...u think i can stack havoc and epistane? has anyone tried it? if so how much did you gain and what were your dosage?
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