guys...Im reading up on Furaguno, Ive read that it translates to Winny-V, is it this strong?
Technically it doesn't convert to WINSTROL (not winnyv which is not winstrol). The pyrazol compound (Oristan-E) does convert to winstrol. The Feraguno (oristan-A) converts to a different compound with similar results.guys...Im reading up on Furaguno, Ive read that it translates to Winny-V, is it this strong?
at:guys...Im reading up on Furaguno, Ive read that it translates to Winny-V, is it this strong?
guys...Im reading up on Furaguno, Ive read that it translates to Winny-V, is it this strong?
Pharmaceutical Name: Furazabol
Chemical structure: 17-alpha-methyl-5-alpha-androsta-2,3-furazan,17b-ol
Molecular weight of base: 330.4692
Effective dose: 20-50 mg/day
Average Street-price: $0.25-0.40 for a 1 mg tab
Available Doses: 1 mg tabs
Brands & Products:
Daiichi Seiyaku Miotolan (Japan) 1 mg tabs
Characteristics:
Furazabol reminds us of Stanozolol (Winstrol) strucrurally. Its similar in appearance in that it's a DHT molecule with a 17-alpha-methyl group for oral availability, and has no 3-keto group, needed for androgenic binding. But instead of a 2,3-pyrazol group, furazabol has a 2,3-furazan group. The difference may not be all that big, both groups contain 2 nitrogen atoms and 2 double bonds and both are present instead of the 3-keto group. The advantage is that its not readily deactivated and therefore whatever influences it has, they are consistent. The downside is that the lack of a 3-keto group, which will impair its overall androgenic potency. So in that aspect again comparable to stanozolol. Anabolics 2002, without a doubt the best reference guide for steroids in print, lists Furazabol as extremely androgenic however, which is no doubt just an oversight. In nearly every way the behaviour of furazabol would be identical to that of Stanozolol.
It's an obscure steroid, that's the least we can say. Its only manufactured in Japan and in tabs of 1 mg. Low availability makes the cost of this steroid rather high, and its not particularly easy to find. Perhaps a tad more potent than Stanozolol, the doses used lay in the same neighbourhood, 20-50 mg/day. The higher doses being the preference. The demand for it isn't very high either, because Winstrol/Stromba is a popular and cheap to come by. The only benefit of its obscurity is that noone will invest in faking it. So if you do come across Furazabol, you have pretty good odds that the stuff is legit.
Now, the literature does not make a whole lot of mention of furazabol, but from what I was able to find1, it supports the weak nature of the steroid. In one case it was found that furazabol was a good treatment for hyperlipemia, and this without affecting proteinuria (the prevention of excretion of amino acids, where one would expect a steroid to increase proteinuria and not effect hyperlipemia). The low androgen binding may explain the lack of effect it had on proteinuria. The doses used were considerably high though, at least for furazabol. 1.1 mg/kg/day. That means a 200 lb bodybuilder would be using around 90-100 mg/day
Furazabol can be considered a relatively light steroid therefore. It is not estrogenic in anyway, on account of its dihydro structure and its lack of estrogenic action and low androgenic binding make it have fairly little influence on the body's own testosterone production. Much like Winstrol (stanozolol) and Anavar (oxandrolone). In the long run suppression will occur of course, but because it occurs much slower a user will suffer less from testicular atrophy and therefore bounce back easier when a cycle is concluded. There is a slim chance of androgenic risk, as with Winstrol, but its not frequent or severe. So acne, increased body and facial hair and even an aggravation of male pattern hair loss can occur, but it's a lot less likely than with more androgenic specimen.
Stacking and Use:
Furazabol is a 17-alpha-alkylated steroid, and therefore has a level of hepatoxicity. In the interest of protecting your liver, you should not extend use beyond 6-8 weeks maximum. It's a mild steroid with no estrogenic activity, so logically its best used when cutting in stacks with Equipoise (boldenone undecylenate), Finaplix (trenbolone acetate) or Primobolan (methenolone enanthate) and the needed fat-burners of course. Unlike most steroids, this drug has a relatively short half-life2 however. It compensates with quite long activity (15-33% excretion of unchanged metabolites after 24 hours) so a single dose should be enough to get you through the day. But on account of the low half-life time, you may want to consider splitting doses in two each day.
Because it doesn't aromatize and doesn't have a strong androgenic component, the use of ancillary drugs is limited. The use of Clomid or Nolvadex after a cycle is certainly advised, though the merit may be rather limited. There is no need for anti-estrogens or blood pressure medication during the cycle.
References
1 Suzuki Y, Honda Y, Ito M. Pharmacological studies on experimental nephritic rats. (4) Improvement of hyperlipemic models in rats utilizing anti-rat kidney rabbit serum and effects of anti-hyperlipemic agents on serum lipid levels. Jpn J Pharmacol 1978 Oct;28(5):729-38
2 Kim T, Suh JW, Ryu JC, Chung BC, Park J. Excretion study of furazabol, an anabolic steroid, in human urine. J Chromatogr B Biomed Appl 1996 Dec 6;687(1):79-83
Furaguno is a derivitive of Furzabol, which is similar to Winny.it clearly says furazabol, but then he goes on to say furaguno, did he confuse them or what?
Yeah, initially its totally fine man.oooooo, well Im gettin excited about this then...dont know if I should be but yea, also Im having a hard time not eating carbs in the morning (ive only been eating them before and after my WO) is 1/2 cup of oatmeal in the a.m. okay?
You had some whey post cardio, right!?!?well...Ill use today as an example because I already know its going to be horrible.
Pre Cardio-2 Lipo6X, H2O
FT Morning cardio-30 min Interval on elliptical
Post Cardio-1 small apple 2 rice cakes w/no sugar added, all natty Jelly(2 tbsp)
no sugar added-sugar free....same thing, I dont call it sugar free because there is sugar (naturally from the fruit ya know) forgot to write in my protein shake, its a habit to have one so I forget to mention it. Im going to take my second serving of 11OXO pre-WO today and see how that feels
My girlfriend is always messing with my diet. She has the metabolism she had when she was a teenager still. It pisses me off sometimes, but then again I remember that my girlfriend weighs less than 120 lbs, and I could be doing a lot worse. :lol:Yeah I tend to head in that direction as well, too strict I mean. I remember once my wife got all pissed with me because I wouldn't eat this chocolate covered raisin she was giving me. I mean one raisin wouldn't have hurt, but I was cutting and in my mind at the time ALL sugar was off limits. Finally I took it and said "Fine if you want me to get fat I'll eat it". She was all like "why do you have to be so stubborn?" until I mentioned something about the pot calling the kettle black. That shut her up...hehehe
When I gear up for a fight, MAJOR relationship tension from my current girlfriend about how much I eat. I think she wants me to be fat secretly.Yeah I tend to head in that direction as well, too strict I mean. I remember once my wife got all pissed with me because I wouldn't eat this chocolate covered raisin she was giving me. I mean one raisin wouldn't have hurt, but I was cutting and in my mind at the time ALL sugar was off limits. Finally I took it and said "Fine if you want me to get fat I'll eat it". She was all like "why do you have to be so stubborn?" until I mentioned something about the pot calling the kettle black. That shut her up...hehehe
Yeah, my wife is 15 years younger than me and has a wicked fast metabolism too. It's not as bad (the diet cheating) since I've got her lifting now too, but she can still eat pretty much anything without getting fat. I get pissed sometimes too, but then I remember that she IS 15 years younger than me and I could be doing a lot worse too :wink1:My girlfriend is always messing with my diet. She has the metabolism she had when she was a teenager still. It pisses me off sometimes, but then again I remember that my girlfriend weighs less than 120 lbs, and I could be doing a lot worse. :lol:
im not too far off...I was 220 in that pic, just finished m Hdrol cycle, I just got done bulking, got to 240, today I weighted 225...Not too bad at all for the diet today Tom, just watch out for the cravings at night. After 8pm is when my will power is usually really tested. If you still look like your avi then you're gonna get shredded during this cut if you can keep your diet solid bro.
Damn, 15 years?!Yeah, my wife is 15 years younger than me and has a wicked fast metabolism too. It's not as bad (the diet cheating) since I've got her lifting now too, but she can still eat pretty much anything without getting fat. I get pissed sometimes too, but then I remember that she IS 15 years younger than me and I could be doing a lot worse too :wink1:
Thanks man. She's a great girl to put up with me and I'm a hella lucky guy.Damn, 15 years?!
Good Job dude. :clap2:
I just did the math you are 42 and she is 27... you sly dog...Thanks man. She's a great girl to put up with me and I'm a hella lucky guy.
you are supposed to eat carbs after a workout. Probably not the 100-120grams that you took in, but a good 60-70.just got back...good news and bad, i had a really good WO, not feeling strong but looking fuller and a little leaner. No lethargy at all (thought I would because of my dieting) was sweating like a madman...did 15 min of cardio after a good bi-tri WO, completely KILLED my abs. went to the cafeteria with some friends, was starving, and couldnt resist...they have this new Nature Valley granola cereal, i had 2 bowls , and 2 pieces of white bread with some jelly, and 2 bananas, but thats all. Im starving already...going to have a whey shake, 1 11OXO, fish oil then go to bed. Might bump up the dosage of 11OXO to 6 ED tomorrow....opinions???
Actually she won't be 27 until March :wink1:I just did the math you are 42 and she is 27... you sly dog...
I probably went to high-school with her. :lol:
Told you to look out for those cravings man, but seriously TG is right. You didn't do too bad with the exception of the white bread and jelly.just got back...good news and bad, i had a really good WO, not feeling strong but looking fuller and a little leaner. No lethargy at all (thought I would because of my dieting) was sweating like a madman...did 15 min of cardio after a good bi-tri WO, completely KILLED my abs. went to the cafeteria with some friends, was starving, and couldnt resist...they have this new Nature Valley granola cereal, i had 2 bowls , and 2 pieces of white bread with some jelly, and 2 bananas, but thats all. Im starving already...going to have a whey shake, 1 11OXO, fish oil then go to bed. Might bump up the dosage of 11OXO to 6 ED tomorrow....opinions???
That is a better shake for cutting, with half the carbs being from oatmeal, a slow digesting carb.Told you to look out for those cravings man, but seriously TG is right. You didn't do too bad with the exception of the white bread and jelly.
GMG is also right, you need carbs after a workout. I am cutting and here's my post workout:
1 banana - 22g carb, 0g protein, 0g fat
1 cup skim milk - 13g carb, 8g protein, 0g fat
1/2 cup oatmeal - 27g carb, 5g protein, 3g fat
2 scoops ON protein - 8g carb, 48g protein, 2g fat
Total = 70g carbs, 61g protein, 5g fat
Granted you're 40lbs heavier than me, but that should still do you for a post workout meal. I will usually wait 2 hours until I eat again, but you could do it sooner if necessary. Typically I will wait until I'm hungry and then wait an additional 30 minutes or so, but that's just me. Also note that that is 1/2 or more of my carb intake 4-5 days a week while cutting.
You sure that wasn't celery killer? Apples are pretty high in calories and fructose...The cereal and bananas wasn't so bad bro. The white bread and jelly though....:nono2:
You need to fall in love with apples. You burn more calories eating an apple than the apple affords. I read that in a Muscle and Fitness magazine. Needless to say, I went out and bought a bag of apples!! :laughing:
I love that you probably bought a blender buddy.you are supposed to eat carbs after a workout. Probably not the 100-120grams that you took in, but a good 60-70.
My post workout shake is:
2 bananas 55gm carb, 1gm protein, 0gm fat
1 scoop natty pb - 6 gm carb, 8gm protein, 16gm fat
2 scoops Dymatize 12 hour elite protein - 1 gm carbs, 42 gm protein, 0gm fat
2 cups 1% milk - 16 gm carbs, 11 gm protein, 2.5gram fat
Total - 78 gm carb, 62 gm protein, and 18.5 gm fat.
I could probably do without 10-15 grams of the carbs, but I am not cutting at the moment, and those carbs are a necessity for your insulin post workout.
I totally overdo nuts... I have to literally pour some into a bowl before I go sit on the couch and leave the bag on the counter - otherwise I'm going to f*ck up a half pound.That is a better shake for cutting, with half the carbs being from oatmeal, a slow digesting carb.
If you are having carb cravings, try a handful of almonds. PLAIN ALMONDS.
Their fiber content makes the carb content almost negligible as long as you don't overdo it.
Works like a charm for me.
No, brother it was apples. They're mostly fiber and water. My friend showed it to me in his Muscle and Fitness mag.You sure that wasn't celery killer? Apples are pretty high in calories and fructose...
Crap, I love apples dude... I gotta hop on that train.No, brother it was apples. They're mostly fiber and water. My friend showed it to me in his Muscle and Fitness mag.
But, yes, celery was also on that list. But I fukkin hate celery!!! :thumbsdown: :yuck:
this is a big issue Ive read arguments about...i read u wanted to spike your insulin first thing after a WO...with some source of sugar. I recently read in a magazine that you should not have fruit, instead have white break, white rice, gatorade, table sugar, or dextrose. This is why I had the white bread and jellyThe cereal and bananas wasn't so bad bro. The white bread and jelly though....:nono2:
You need to fall in love with apples. You burn more calories eating an apple than the apple affords. I read that in a Muscle and Fitness magazine. Needless to say, I went out and bought a bag of apples!! :laughing: