I nearly all of Competitive Edge Labs's products are sold out everywhere. Is this a permanent thing that they are being discontinued ?
I nearly all of Competitive Edge Labs's products are sold out everywhere. Is this a permanent thing that they are being discontinued ?
Very similar actually.No intention to hijack off the thread topic but,How do these "winstrol clones" you gentlemen speak of actually compare to stanozol in effects?
I guarantee it is something we've already seen except methylated or unmethylated.Not yet, I just know it's not an Epithio clone but other than that could be anything
yeah, there was. it wasn't very popular and didn't get very good feedback thoughWas there ever a methyl-4AD ever made ?
I know they find a prohormone or something that works great, then for the hell of it methylate it to see what happens. I think 4-AD might have been an exception though
It'll be a new higher bioavalable Superdrol clone that's tri-methylated instead of di. :dump:
The amount of methylations is not what makes superdrol toxic!...at least from what I have heard....dont quote me..It'll be a new higher bioavalable Superdrol clone that's tri-methylated instead of di. :dump:
Just to clarify, the dimethyl in 2a-17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one refers to a CH3 (methyl group) on the 2a and 17a carbon positions, respectivly. The 17a alkylation alone is responsible for liver toxicity. The methyl group on the 2a position does not effect the steroid's ability to be metabolized by the liver.
whoops, hahaGood info dice but my posting was meant to be a joke, or should I say Tri-ce...
I do believe it is.. Lol.Reaper is that Tom Cruise? ha ha
yes, legal gear made one. As far as I know it was never banned.Was there ever a methyl-4AD ever made ?
I know they find a prohormone or something that works great, then for the hell of it methylate it to see what happens. I think 4-AD might have been an exception though
Not necessarily. M1T was one of the most popular back then and also one of the most toxic anabolic steroids ever created.the stuff back then was much safer than what is out now.
Again, not always true. 4-AD had intrinsic activity around the same as testosterone. M1,4ADD also has intrinsic activity in addition to converting to dbol.Prohoromones= inactive until activated in the body via 17HSD or 3 beta. There is allegedly a finite capacity within the body due to the needed conversion
There are still plenty of non-methylated options out there...and plenty of "pro-hormones" as well.Stuff out now= active and methylated.
IIRC, Methyl 4-AD converted into methyl-testosterone - and by all reports, was an estrogenic nightmare. Heady days, full of adventure and discovery (and the occasional endocrine crash)!Was there ever a methyl-4AD ever made ?
I know they find a prohormone or something that works great, then for the hell of it methylate it to see what happens. I think 4-AD might have been an exception though
hehe.IIRC, Methyl 4-AD converted into methyl-testosterone - and by all reports, was an estrogenic nightmare. Heady days, full of adventure and discovery (and the occasional endocrine crash)!
I should have worded my statement better. Not all the 'old stuff' was prohormones in a true sense.Not necessarily. M1T was one of the most popular back then and also one of the most toxic anabolic steroids ever created.
Again, not always true. 4-AD had intrinsic activity around the same as testosterone. M1,4ADD also has intrinsic activity in addition to converting to dbol.
There are still plenty of non-methylated options out there...and plenty of "pro-hormones" as well.
Yes, this would sell out quick!It will be if they make one.I would like to see a methyl sten clone,and i know others would too.
I picked up mine online (m-drol) with h-drol no problem today from ups, I had ordered it earlier.I nearly all of Competitive Edge Labs's products are sold out everywhere. Is this a permanent thing that they are being discontinued ?
Back when CEL had their "hick-up" one of their rep's said he was going to see about hiring PA to test/work with their company...man that was quite some time ago...guess they went through with it...It appears that PA is now doing a lot of testing for CEL.
I read some bickering back and forth squabble in another thread. I think it was the havoc vs. superdrol one.
Anyways, so yeah. CEL should be a reliable source from now on.
lolYou must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TripDog again.
Sorry son
thats what I was about to post. 4-AD i think was said to be 97% as strong as test before any conversion to test, so you still get a very similar effect to straight test only it's orally active.Again, not always true. 4-AD had intrinsic activity around the same as testosterone. M1,4ADD also has intrinsic activity in addition to converting to dbol.
Yea, that's why 4AD-cyp was so damn effective. It was essentially test-cyp. God I miss the pre-ban hormones.thats what I was about to post. 4-AD i think was said to be 97% as strong as test before any conversion to test, so you still get a very similar effect to straight test only it's orally active.
Not all prohormones are completely inactive till they are converted, many (m1,4AD for example I think is 60% as strong as dbol before conversion but not as clean, then something like 15% converts to pure dbol) are still active in their current form but then convert into a more potent and well known target compound.
Your entitled to your feelings, and I have heard scuttlebutt about something like this before, its hard to know what to believe sometimes..........Just too fishy for me I guess.
look up XTREME TRENthe stuff back then was much safer than what is out now.
Prohoromones= inactive until activated in the body via 17HSD or 3 beta. There is allegedly a finite capacity within the body due to the needed conversion
Stuff out now= active and methylated.
If I could choose to get 2 of the old stuff it would probably be 19-Nordiol and 4-AD. The rest of the stuff I'd most likely pass on.
im sorry bro thats not the same stuff....look up XTREME TREN