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[kissdadookie]

Its on this page

LOL. 10 lbs? LOL. You look the effen same bro. LOL.

 

[fightnews]

^ Placebro is strong with this one.

Check the logs bro! They are all positive, chit must be good!!!

Again, you claim PA is line running PH. You also made crazy better than roid gains on (-)epi. Where's your before and after? You're all talk and no substantiation.

You have to make stuff up to feel better about yourself now? If you keep making things up(this is the third time) then it would be smart for people to disregard everything you say

 

[fightnews]

LOL. 10 lbs? LOL. You look the effen same bro. LOL.

The pics are only like 6 weeks apart. I started at 172 8 months ago now I'm 210. Thats 38 pounds with no fat gain. I'll let the others judge if I made improvement for 6 weeks. In fact I don't have to I know I make progress. I get compliments everyday in the gym.

You look the same to besides a little fat and forearm size prob courtesy of pornhub.com

 

[kissdadookie]

The pics are only like 6 weeks apart. I started at 172 8 months ago now I'm 210. Thats 38 pounds with no fat gain. I'll let the others judge if I made improvement for 6 weeks. In fact I don't have to I know I make progress. I get compliments everyday in the gym.

You look the same to besides a little fat and forearm size prob courtesy of pornhub.com

YOU LOOK THE SAME. 38 lbs of lean mass with fat loss AND YOU LOOK THE SAME. LOL.

 

[fightnews]

LOL. 10 lbs? LOL. You look the effen same bro. LOL.

You are just saying that because you're butthurt anyway. Look how frantic you are, posting 3 times in a row to post pics when I already did lol. Whats going on for you today? Gonna cruise the internet making sure to tell everyone they don't know what their doing?

 

[fightnews]

YOU LOOK THE SAME. 38 lbs of lean mass with fat loss AND YOU LOOK THE SAME. LOL.

Are you all there? I clearly told you those pics are 6 weeks apart? Talk about selective reading? weren't you criticizing someone else for that already in this thread Captain know it all?

 

[fightnews]

So now we are comparing routines to show that CM worked for someone and epi and PA work for most everyone else. What was the point of this again?

He's trying to tell the guy he did it wrong

 

[kissdadookie]

Are you all there? I clearly told you those pics are 6 weeks apart? Talk about selective reading? weren't you criticizing someone else for that already in this thread Captain know it all?

I have photos on my CM log. 7 or so weeks in. Very evident gains on my photos in that log. So your blaming it on 6 weeks being too short of a period of time? LOL.

You. Look. The. Same.

Poster example of placebro.

 

[fightnews]

while i do believe everyone responds differently, i do believe CM works if your style of training fits to it. Situations where recovery can be an issue (high frequency training) it has trememdous benefits. I've been using it the past 13 weeks now, and to me it will be a staple since i'm training 6x a week, and legs sometimes 3x a week.

I do believe everyone responds differently to different supplements s well, considering folli did really nothing for me during a cut or a reverse diet, and CM is still banging strong. the biggest thing i took away from those logs on bb.com are that people don't train up to par for the CM. and the protocol imo was stupid to run with cm.

if you have a product that inhibits protein breakdown, and thus makes recovery much better, why would you have training 3x a week. albeit they were brutal workouts, but you mean to tell me that every average logger on bb.com is going to an RPE of 9.5 or 9 on every workout during that log? hell no.

i paid for my CM, and will continue to do so as i believe it works. i don;t think it'll put 10 lbs on you, but in the long run, it will definitely keep you in the gym recovering better from your previous session

Yeah it might help a little but they claimed an average of 16 pounds with 10 pounds fat loss. Its nothing close to claims, thats the point.

 

[Swolbraham]

Yeah it might help a little but they claimed an average of 16 pounds with 10 pounds fat loss. Its nothing close to claims, thats the point.

i can say the same about hundreds of products though. companies make claims, claims lead to sales it's business. whether you want to believe it or not is your agenda.

it may not "work" for you, but to say it doesn't "work" period or it's a crap supplement is ignorant. follidrone did nothing for me... but i'm not going around saying its a scam and its a dog**** product.

 

[kissdadookie]

Yeah it might help a little but they claimed an average of 16 pounds with 10 pounds fat loss. Its nothing close to claims, thats the point.

Your evidence thus far of PA being like PH along with amazing (-)epi gains has been zilch but you believe wholeheartedly about what you've claimed so...

 

[fightnews]

I have photos on my CM log. 7 or so weeks in. Very evident gains on my photos in that log. So your blaming it on 6 weeks being too short of a period of time? LOL.

You. Look. The. Same.

Poster example of placebro.

No I'm saying I made progress for six weeks. You are clearly biased because of this little back and forth we have going on. I don't look the same if you knew what to look for you would know that I clearly tightened up. Shoulders are bigger waste is smaller. Unlike your pic where you lost your abs gaining fat all over. You know what bro, I'm just going to post a pic of what I looked like when I started to shut you up. I'll show you what progress looks like.

 

[kissdadookie]

No I'm saying I made progress for six weeks. You are clearly biased because of this little back and forth we have going on. I don't look the same if you knew what to look for you would know that I clearly tightened up. Shoulders are bigger waste is smaller. Unlike your pic where you lost your abs gaining fat all over. You know what bro, I'm just going to post a pic of what I looked like when I started to shut you up. I'll show you what progress looks like.

6 weeks and no progress. Those are your pics.

 

[fightnews]

6 weeks and no progress. Those are your pics.

Bro I made progress, If anyone made no progress its you, you just got fat, Do you even lift at all? You look like a newb

 

[kissdadookie]

Bro I made progress, If anyone made no progress its you, you just got fat, Do you even lift at all? You look like a newb

Keep using that excuse, you're the only one using it

 

[fightnews]

This is me after 5 years off before I started 8 months ago. If my chest looks a little funny It's because I got stabbed there and half of it is gonzo. It's embarrising but I was sick and very stressed from work

This is me 7 months after starting but I made no progress according to captain know it all

 

[fightnews]

Wow, Makes me very happy to look at the photos bro's, I hope I never have to take time off and get like that again. Now I really want to hit the gym with a fury.

 

[Touey]

 

[kisaj]

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LOL! In with the save.

 

[kissdadookie]

This is me after 5 years off before I started 8 months ago. If my chest looks a little funny It's because I got stabbed there and half of it is gonzo. It's embarrising but I was sick and very stressed from work

This is me 7 months after starting but I made no progress according to captain know it all

7 months, dem look like NORMAL GAINS BRO. You also got real flipping fat.

WHERE IS THE PROOF THAT PA IS LIKE PH GAINS AND WHERE IS THE PROOF TO SUBSTANTIATE YOUR CRAZY (-)EPI CLAIMS?!?

 

[Touey]

7 months, dem look like NORMAL GAINS BRO. You also got real flipping fat.

WHERE IS THE PROOF THAT PA IS LIKE PH GAINS AND WHERE IS THE PROOF TO SUBSTANTIATE YOUR CRAZY (-)EPI CLAIMS?!?

no need for calling folks fat dook.

 

[kissdadookie]

no need for calling folks fat dook.

Wait, did you miss the posts where fightnews said that I didn't make gains and only got fat?

 

[ma70]

This thread just went to crap. Haha....

 

[kissdadookie]

This thread just went to crap. Haha....

I concur

 

[Touey]

Wait, did you miss the posts where fightnews said that I didn't make gains and only got fat?

yes, however calling him fat in turn only makes you look defensive thus hurting your credibility

 

[kissdadookie]

yes, however calling him fat in turn only makes you look defensive thus hurting your credibility

Lulz. It's just one of dem moments where the gloves just needs to come off. But I getcha.

 

[Admin]

7 months, dem look like NORMAL GAINS BRO. You also got real flipping fat.

He got real fat? What the hell are you smoking?

 

[kissdadookie]

He got real fat? What the hell are you smoking?

Just flipping the tables around with the previous back and forths with fightnews. I mean, if he is claiming that all I've gotten was fat in these past 12 or so weeks, then in comparison, he got real flipping fat in 7 months.

 

[Admin]

Just flipping the tables around with the previous back and forths with fightnews. I mean, if he is claiming that all I've gotten was fat in these past 12 or so weeks, then in comparison, he got real flipping fat in 7 months.

In other words, him getting fat is BS...

 

[kissdadookie]

In other words, him getting fat is BS...

If what is being asked is if I believe that he turned into a fat mess, the answer would obviously be no. He definitely made nice progress and a lot of gains in 7 months, that's obvious

 

[kisaj]

You all got huge and look fabulous. Everyone wins.

 

[Admin]

He definitely made nice progress and a lot of gains in 7 months, that's obvious

Thats what I saw...

And a note to everyone, its ok not to like a supplement....no need to bitch and insult people because a person doesn't like....A SUPPLEMENT. Go have a beer or something..relax.

 

[R1balla]

is kissadookie actually arguing that epi (as in epistane) does not work? lol

 

[kissdadookie]

is kissadookie actually arguing that epi (as in epistane) does not work? lol

(-)epi, the catachin from cocoa

Not saying it works or doesn't work though, but just wanting to see these steroidal like gains from (-)epi

 

[NewAgeMayan]

This is me after 5 years off before I started 8 months ago. If my chest looks a little funny It's because I got stabbed there and half of it is gonzo. It's embarrising but I was sick and very stressed from work

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This is me 7 months after starting but I made no progress according to captain know it all

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Thats some good progress man, for sure. What program(s) you run during that time?

...and FWIW Ive seen 'dook's progress pics and I personally dont think he's put on just (or even mainly) bf.

 

[akazo]

7 months, dem look like NORMAL GAINS BRO. You also got real flipping fat.

WHERE IS THE PROOF THAT PA IS LIKE PH GAINS AND WHERE IS THE PROOF TO SUBSTANTIATE YOUR CRAZY (-)EPI CLAIMS?!?

I can't believe this thread is still going...

KDD, those pictures show an incredible amount of progress and dedication if that is indeed just 7 months. When I read your posts here and at other sites, you always come off as knowledgeable but somewhat passionate... but here, with these comments, you are losing all credibility.

 

[kissdadookie]

I can't believe this thread is still going...

KDD, those pictures show an incredible amount of progress and dedication if that is indeed just 7 months. When I read your posts here and at other sites, you always come off as knowledgeable but somewhat passionate... but here, with these comments, you are losing all credibility.

Read the other posts following it on this thread Wasn't really serious about fightnews getting really fat

 

[TheIronAsylum]

Sorry to bump this but i just ordered some CM and was thinking about toying around with the dosage tyming and wanted to know what you guys did

i was thinking instead of doing 2 2 2

i was thinking of 4 pre workout and then 1 and 1 earlier and later in the day or 3 pre 1 post and rest at other times in the day

Any input on this?

 

[Danes]

Sorry to bump this but i just ordered some CM and was thinking about toying around with the dosage tyming and wanted to know what you guys did

i was thinking instead of doing 2 2 2

i was thinking of 4 pre workout and then 1 and 1 earlier and later in the day or 3 pre 1 post and rest at other times in the day

Any input on this?

Or you could take 3 prior and 3 after

 

[TheIronAsylum]

Or you could take 3 prior and 3 after

has anyone done this

 

[Danes]

has anyone done this

I have done

 

[TheIronAsylum]

I have done

how did it done work out for you

 

[Danes]

how did it done work out for you

Same as taking it like suggested.

 

[TheIronAsylum]

did you guys take it on nonlifting days or just scale back the dose to half?

 

[Danes]

did you guys take it on nonlifting days or just scale back the dose to half?

Everyday