Interesting. Why did you come off?Actually i did from time to time in the ast 3 yrs. I just got off TRT a couple months ago
Interesting. Why did you come off?Actually i did from time to time in the ast 3 yrs. I just got off TRT a couple months ago
absolutely...people confuse trt doses with running cycles, trt just brings me back into 'normal' range. tbh, I believe my results this time while on trt will be even better than last time off trt!!!Actually i did from time to time in the ast 3 yrs. I just got off TRT a couple months ago
same here....damned RBC's.Red blood cell count became too elavated and test levels were consistantly around 550
Yea they stopped mine and and had me going to an Oncolgist(sp) for blood work untill the rbc count came downsame here....damned RBC's.
I am now prescribed half what I was before--- 100mg per week now versus 200mg per week before.
I am on a trial basis, pretty sure I am scheduled to go back for bloods next month-I need to check...I was told that naringen will help?Yea they stopped mine and and had me going to an Oncolgist(sp) for blood work untill the rbc count came down
I actually found test boosters to be very helpful while on TRT. You still get the all the positives besides the small bump in the Total T levels. As in Free T boost, mood boost, libido boost, energy and sense of well being. It definitely not necessarily while on TRT, but it can be helpful on some people. I am no longer am on TRT so rotating test boosters are now a must for me.Interesting. Never heard of someone running a test booster on TRT but glad it works for you!
I see a company is adding fadogia to a 1ad ph, the writeup says to keep balls plump....last I checked testosterone is also suppressive-voila!!!I actually found test boosters to be very helpful while on TRT. You still get the all the positives besides the small bump in the Total T levels. As in Free T boost, mood boost, libido boost, energy and sense of well being. It definitely not necessarily while on TRT, but it can be helpful on some people. I am no longer am on TRT so rotating test boosters are now a must for me.
Yes sir! When M test came out I quickly used it along with my TRT regimen. The aforementioned benefits of using this test booster with test is true!I see a company is adding fadogia to a 1ad ph, the writeup says to keep balls plump....last I checked testosterone is also suppressive-voila!!!
seriously, I highly recommend to anyone on trt to at least TRY a good quality test booster!!!
I used this deal last weekend and got a free SNS Growth Factor I believe. I'm 3 or 4 days in with M-Test. And I think the Ash makes me sleepy unless i take it with a stim. I'm not noticing much libido change yet, but workout motivation has been higher already.We've got some tasty b2g1 deals on MTEST at Nutriverse!
Other have commented that ash makes them drowsy, I'd imagine a product like growth factor is better before bed anyhow.I used this deal last weekend and got a free SNS Growth Factor I believe. I'm 3 or 4 days in with M-Test. And I think the Ash makes me sleepy unless i take it with a stim. I'm not noticing much libido change yet, but workout motivation has been higher already.
Agreed. I'm taking a few GF before bed only. I really do like it's profile. I've experimented with similar ingredients in the past and it's likely that it will help sleep quality for me.Other have commented that ash makes them drowsy, I'd imagine a product like growth factor is better before bed anyhow
absolutely...the boost in free test, mood, sleep and LIBIDO is undeniable, imo!!!Yes sir! When M test came out I quickly used it along with my TRT regimen. The aforementioned benefits of using this test booster with test is true!
1st- I take 2nd dose of m-test about an hour before bed-really helps with sleep..2nd-growth factor is good stuff, I don't know why you couldn't take m-test together with a couple of growth factor an hour before bed-SNS reps? 3rd-glad to see you decided to try m-test, by day 7 you should start to see an increase in libido!!!I used this deal last weekend and got a free SNS Growth Factor I believe. I'm 3 or 4 days in with M-Test. And I think the Ash makes me sleepy unless i take it with a stim. I'm not noticing much libido change yet, but workout motivation has been higher already.
you should see some really excellent sleep!!!Agreed T! That's exactly how I started dosing after a few days of experimenting. I take 3 caps with morning stim or preworkout stim. Then 3 caps with Growth Factor before bed.
When thebigt is in a good mood, the world wins!today is day5 0f m-test/bulbine...I slept really good last night and woke up this morning in a really good mood.
thank you, I really appreciate that!!!When thebigt is in a good mood, the world wins!
lol...there is that possibility!!!Damn, I am afraid of trying this product, my forearms would be too sore. Will impact negatively on my deadlift.
Great to hear. Waiting for my Bulbine to come in then am adding it to my M test cycle!today is day5 0f m-test/bulbine...I slept really good last night and woke up this morning in a really good mood.
:cheers:good stuff!!!Great to hear. Waiting for my Bulbine to come in then am adding it to my M test cycle!
Thats very surprising because Diesel Test contains most of same ingreds as M Test but at much lower dosages im sure since the are all in a prop blend with 20 other ingredsI'm on my second bottle and still have not felt any different. Perhaps a slight increase in sex drive. I have another bottle to go and would like to know if anyone has stacked another natural ingredient (or ingredients) to boost the effects. I'm giving M-Test a fair shot but I'm thinking about going back on Diesel Test Hardcore, the formula without the yohimbe. I seem to respond very well with it.
How old are you? I ran M-Test and it did exactly what I was looking for it to do. Increased Libido, deeper sleep, more agression in gym, overall felt great.I'm on my second bottle and still have not felt any different. Perhaps a slight increase in sex drive. I have another bottle to go and would like to know if anyone has stacked another natural ingredient (or ingredients) to boost the effects. I'm giving M-Test a fair shot but I'm thinking about going back on Diesel Test Hardcore, the formula without the yohimbe. I seem to respond very well with it.
I'm 58 and Diesel Test gave me more aggression, strength, and even acne. Even when I used it back in 2004.How old are you? I ran M-Test and it did exactly what I was looking for it to do. Increased Libido, deeper sleep, more agression in gym, overall felt great.
Could be that there are more of one ingredient and less of some others, which I may not respond to.Thats very surprising because Diesel Test contains most of same ingreds as M Test but at much lower dosages im sure since the are all in a prop blend with 20 other ingreds
The only overlapping ingredient is the L dopa and if you used both M test and Growth Factor XT it would come out to 300mg daily. I don't think this would be an issue to take both at all. Take one dose of m test in the AM and the second dose and the Growth Factor XT about an hour before bed and you'll be good to go. Some do notice a slight stimulatory effect from L dopa though so feel it out yourself but happy sleeping my friends!1st- I take 2nd dose of m-test about an hour before bed-really helps with sleep..2nd-growth factor is good stuff, I don't know why you couldn't take m-test together with a couple of growth factor an hour before bed-SNS reps? 3rd-glad to see you decided to try m-test, by day 7 you should start to see an increase in libido!!!
always good to see you here, my friend!!!
keep posting....:welcome:
Yep, and this is why I have to take all 6 M-Test caps once I wake up or I have trouble sleeping, from the dopamine rebound I'd guess.Some do notice a slight stimulatory effect from L dopa though
That would be correct. No need for AI while on M-Test.Read the entire thread and there doesn't seem to be any concerns us on needing to take an AI with M-Test. Is that the consensus?
All valid points. For me, Ldopa and mucana ingredients have always made me sleepy. So they are strictly before bed supps for me unless a very heavy stim is dosed at the same time.The only overlapping ingredient is the L dopa and if you used both M test and Growth Factor XT it would come out to 300mg daily. I don't think this would be an issue to take both at all. Take one dose of m test in the AM and the second dose and the Growth Factor XT about an hour before bed and you'll be good to go. Some do notice a slight stimulatory effect from L dopa though so feel it out yourself but happy sleeping my friends!
Nope, although M test+ and AI would make a great stack!Read the entire thread and there doesn't seem to be any concerns us on needing to take an AI with M-Test. Is that the consensus?
bulbine is great with m-test!!!Nope, although M test+ and AI would make a great stack!
Hell yeah, just started my bulbine yesterday!bulbine is great with m-test!!!
I can't say enough good things about that combo!!!Hell yeah, just started my bulbine yesterday!
all the above + great sleep!!!Beside libido enhancement, what have you guys seen for effects? Better mood, performance, alpha state of mind?
You think that the mucuna pruriens is the reason for the sleep?all the above + great sleep!!!
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/287360-cel-m-test.htmlBeside libido enhancement, what have you guys seen for effects? Better mood, performance, alpha state of mind?
very nice!!!http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/287360-cel-m-test.html
i used this in my post contest rebound, and found some very good results with it. Granted I did give myself a nice kcal bump right out of the gate after competing. but this fit the bill to helping me regain my strength, mood, energy, and also libido. After long term dieting that shot right back up and helped me sleep (which was non existent) towards the end of prep.
I would highly suggest this product. This is coming from a guy who does not place a whole lot of faith in OTC Test boosters. CEL did a fantastic job with this product IMO
Yes. It's seems to be very user specific though. I'm even a fan of NOW Mucana Dopa for sleep. But tolerance can build quickly when used for that purpose in my experience.You think that the mucuna pruriens is the reason for the sleep?
Good stuff. Xgels is still one of my favorite natty products.I'm still on my first bottle of mtest around week 3 now. Amazing results on pct so far. Stacking this on top of xgels starting this week an I'm still hitting PRs. Can't wait til both are in full swing. Excited for the gains before hitting my summer shred
KSM-66...ashwagandhaYes. It's seems to be very user specific though. I'm even a fan of NOW Mucana Dopa for sleep. But tolerance can build quickly when used for that purpose in my experience.