I am by far no expert on hormonal products, or even supplements really. All of my knowledge comes just from books/studies I have read, as well as people I speak to (Edwitt, Trauma1, etc.) as someone interested in the subject, but certainly not years of experience, or even more important any sort of medical certification. I am stating this to show I am not trying to position myself as any kind of expert, etc..just giving my 2c. I also am not targeting IBE or this new compound, my opinon on it is not yet formulated.
I have been following along the announcements of this new PH, and personally am completely torn on what to think. A good PM conversation with Dadamsdid shed some light on what I was overlooking. Bigger gains than most are used to? Probably. At a cost? Most certainly. Another aspect brought into conversation was that as a whole, compounds such as this will push the industry towards stronger legislation. Don't deny it, Patrick Arnold even pointed out that releasing this would be mocking the FDA. But, where I say I am torn, is I dont believe the gov't should decide what I can put in my body, so I in theory want to see things such as this available, but I also am of the mindset that AAS in general should not be criminalized.
In reality, this substance could be pretty brutal side-wise, or could not be, testing of users will prove one way or the other. I feel I can honestly say that a strong majority of this board should not be running it (I am not calling anyone out, or leveling myself ahead, I have no plan to run this, at least in any near future), but that goes for many things people currently take. But as implied by others here, the new majority thought on AM will prevail, which is harsher compounds, for longer, at a higher dosage. Hit PCT, take a couple weeks off, and go harsher. Again I am not calling anyone out, but look at the logs, progressively they push what the limit is. As soon as someone uses SD at 40mg, someone else decides to use 50mg, which leads to "OMG YOUR THE MAN" attitude. Ive before let myself slip into this thought process, but always snap myself back to reality.
In the end, this will lead to where people want to be (Muscular), but at what cost? When did health just become absolutely of no concern? I am sure many of you have seen my various public service disclaimers in threads, but thats because when someone pushes the limit, it should be noted as such. Perfect example is Edwitt, who is running slin right now. I don't think he is wrong in doing so, discussions with him show he is well read and has many experienced people working with him on it (I even ask Ed for his opinion on many things), but of course it created interest in slin for people who shouldn't touch it. This **** can kill you. Not change you, kill you. But im sure someone out there will order some, follow the dosing schedule of someone else, and possibly hurt themselves. Instant gratification, the number one contribution to a Darwin award.
Why can't we have a return to discussions being based on science or at least reason. Now I read alot of stuff put out by various experts, gurus, etc. One of my favorite guys to listen to is Mark Rippetoe, whos starting strength program is what changed me from a gym goer with no results to someone who reaches consistent results and lifts properly. Since he was the light at the end of the tunnel for me, he will always have an ear from me to anything he says. Recently in an article on T-Nation, he stated that he was upset with the industry only relying on peer reviewed studies and ignoring experience. While I agree with him to a point, he was also discussing lifting form (although he did mention dbol in his example), I dont think the same transfers to compounds being put into your body. No level of experience will detail what the compounds are doing. A "vet' can run 100 cycles in his life, think he did everything perfectly, and end up with heart failure, irreversible liver damage, etc. The fact of the matter is just because someone is still standing and smiling, doesnt mean that everything went perfectly.
Its your body, you get one shot at it, remember that when the newest cool idea comes from a buddy on a message board.
/rant.
