Really wanna give it a go since it's by far the most inexpensive option I've seen but I'm not sure how legit it is. Anybody have experience with it?
No, its beta hydroxy butyrate. it is essential for helping the body use fat for fuel.So this is like an energy booster before you workout?
This is why I use them sparingly. Well saidIf I may make a clarification: These Ketone Salts definitely are a rapid, preferred energy source when consumed... and may help in the *transition* from a Carb to Keto adapted state (preventing Lethargy, "Keto Flu", etc...) - But they do nothing to "get you into Ketosis". Your body needs to be depleted of most of it's Glucose/Glycogen before it starts preferentially breaking down fat to produce Ketones. If you think about it, these salts could actually *increase* the amount of time it takes to "get into Ketosis" in the beginning - anytime you are consuming them, you are not burning off Glucose/Glycogen. The marketing of these things needs to change - it's sooooo bad (inaccurate).
Maybe I've heard from different sources than you, but from what I've understood is that they provide energy for those who are using a keto diet. I have seen some stuff about dropping you into keto, but I never saw that as the main purpose. I have seen some products that use it pre and intra workout to give energy. That's what I'm planning on doing to use it. I've also heard that even if you not in keto it can be beneficial during training, but I personally would rather stick to my rapid carb sources.If I may make a clarification: These Ketone Salts definitely are a rapid, preferred energy source when consumed... and may help in the *transition* from a Carb to Keto adapted state (preventing Lethargy, "Keto Flu", etc...) - But they do nothing to "get you into Ketosis". Your body needs to be depleted of most of it's Glucose/Glycogen before it starts preferentially breaking down fat to produce Ketones. If you think about it, these salts could actually *increase* the amount of time it takes to "get into Ketosis" in the beginning - anytime you are consuming them, you are not burning off Glucose/Glycogen. The marketing of these things needs to change - it's sooooo bad (inaccurate).
What rapid carbs do you use.Maybe I've heard from different sources than you, but from what I've understood is that they provide energy for those who are using a keto diet. I have seen some stuff about dropping you into keto, but I never saw that as the main purpose. I have seen some products that use it pre and intra workout to give energy. That's what I'm planning on doing to use it. I've also heard that even if you not in keto it can be beneficial during training, but I personally would rather stick to my rapid carb sources.
I can't say that I've heard or read all media about them, but as an example, the KetoCaNa ad on SHR says "gets you into ketosis...". Carl has also bitched about a lot of the ads intimating " ketosis" for the product. I'd buy from the companies that know what they can, and can not, doMaybe I've heard from different sources than you, but from what I've understood is that they provide energy for those who are using a keto diet. I have seen some stuff about dropping you into keto, but I never saw that as the main purpose. I have seen some products that use it pre and intra workout to give energy. That's what I'm planning on doing to use it. I've also heard that even if you not in keto it can be beneficial during training, but I personally would rather stick to my rapid carb sources.
I hear you man. I'm not really sure. I used keto induce from evomuse and it never put me into ketosis using the sticks like others were doing. I just got a bag of bhb off nutraplanet for 30 bucks. So we'll see what happens whenever I use itI can't say that I've heard or read all media about them, but as an example, the KetoCaNa ad on SHR says "gets you into ketosis...". Carl has also bitched about a lot of the ads intimating " ketosis" for the product. I'd buy from the companies that know what they can, and can not, do
Highly Branched Cyclic Dextrin and Karbolyn are my go to'sWhat rapid carbs do you use.
I think karbolyn was discontinuedHighly Branched Cyclic Dextrin and Karbolyn are my go to's
It's a type of carb powder, not exclusive to any brand... I get my from true nutrition ,just got in 10 lbs a month agoI think karbolyn was discontinued
Yea, my only gripe are the claims of ketosis - ketones are a great energy source. You really need a blood ketone meter to do *actual* ketogenic diets right (assuming your idea of "right" corresponds to Phinney and Volek's "at least 0.5mmol of BhB in blood") - the Stix are useless IMO, and have most people doing just "low carb" when they think they are keto - especially if they are maintaining their 1g/lb protein intake.I hear you man. I'm not really sure. I used keto induce from evomuse and it never put me into ketosis using the sticks like others were doing. I just got a bag of bhb off nutraplanet for 30 bucks. So we'll see what happens whenever I use it
Very true. When I do it I mostly do a classic steak and egg diet, but will add in some protein powder to put me around 3-350grams of protein daily. If I were to guess my fats would be around 150. So I'd say it's more than possible for gluconeogenesis, but I'm too stuck in my ways to drop my protein any lower. I will say that I'm basically zero carb, I don't really do the whole subtract the fiber from the carbs thing or consume things with trace carbs, only the protein powder. Alot of steak, butter, coconut oil, eggs etcYea, my only gripe are the claims of ketosis - ketones are a great energy source. You really need a blood ketone meter to do *actual* ketogenic diets right (assuming your idea of "right" corresponds to Phinney and Volek's "at least 0.5mmol of BhB in blood") - the Stix are useless IMO, and have most people doing just "low carb" when they think they are keto - especially if they are maintaining their 1g/lb protein intake.
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