Just wondering if there is any new feedback on this product as I still haven't heard any other feedback on it except from prolangum..
yeah I ran it for 2 wks @ 3mgs and the last 4 days at 4 mgs and had no results it was sledges m-dien. I figured it was a bad batch and I contacted him and he took care of me ( thanks sledge ) I got some from kilo sports, I have always had good results with there products, especially m1t, I am at day 9 at 4mgs a day and the only thing I notice is that my natural test is shut down. if m-dien is anything like m1t like others have claimed then I sould be experincing fair strenght gains and great pumps? and that isn't my experience. some people would probally say I should be more patient, but m1t always started working on the 3rd to 4th day for me, why should m-dien be any different?Just wondering if there is any new feedback on this product as I still haven't heard any other feedback on it except from prolangum..
cuz it's a different chemical compound. And like you, i'm on day 9 with nothing to report except a distended belly. i'm hoping the gains will start sometime around day 14.
So how exactly are you noticing that you're natural test is shut down?I am at day 9 at 4mgs a day and the only thing I notice is that my natural test is shut down.
testicle atrophy and decreased sex driveSo how exactly are you noticing that you're natural test is shut down?
you look at pro's log and in a week he was up 5lbs. me at day 10 nothing. if this **** is going to work I and the others should have noticed something by now. be patient yeah whatever it's more like beware of m-dien.Actually, I would say the results aren't in yet. The only two completed full length cycles (Prolangtum and Sifu) went well and they were pleased, and liked it more than 4-OHN. Everything else is guys bitching because they haven't seen results in a week, or unfirtunately the cases where DS had the MD fall out of solution, like with Scottyo. If MD is a lean mass builder without water retention, it makes sense that results will occur slower and be less pronounced than M1-T (maybe it will have a place as a great cutting supp). The only PH dud I've seen lately is M-4AD.
Now the situation with BK over at bb.com is much more serious, as people are claiming his 1mg pills are seriously underdosed, and he is tossing back insults rather than addressing the problem like a businessman should.
I think with Sledge's product, we should watch a few more logs (like Scottyos) go to full term (1 month) before the decision is rendered. I have an investment here as well, but I'm not about to throw the powder out.......yet.
Just this morning at Avant, Pro reitterated how potent he thought the stuff was, and he is pretty maxed out muscle wise.you look at pro's log and in a week he was up 5lbs. me at day 10 nothing. if this **** is going to work I and the others should have noticed something by now. be patient yeah whatever it's more like beware of m-dien.
We need to get Scotty to comment when he started over with the un-flavored batch? Since he was using the bad batch at first, it could be that the first week or 10 days are irrelavent.well people's bodies do react differently to different substances.. but I will be keeping a close eye on scottyo's log because he just hit the 2 week mark and said he's noticing some strength increases now..
Did he say that the flavored ones are not up to par with doses or something?Whose product are you using? Did you get stuck with the flavored MD from Sledge that fell out of solution? If so, he'll replace it free.
Do you not take breaks between cycles?I will be switching over to Sldge's M-Dien from M14ADD on monday and running it for 4 weeks at 4mg/day. Details in my log in Cycle info if anyone is intrested.
BTW, The powder Sldge used for the betas tested out 98%pure. It was truly a flavoring problem. We should start to hear better feedback soon.
Hell no! Prolagtum doesn't why should I? JK On monday, I'll be 3 weeks into my M14ADD cycle. I want to try M-Dien while I'm still on, and if I start Monday I can do it for a good 4 weeks. The entire cycle will last 7 weeks. 8 if I like the way It's going. Then It's clomid and clen for PCT. and a nice break.Do you not take breaks between cycles?
As far as I know Sifu never used M-Dien. Maybe you're thinking of Loki?Actually, I would say the results aren't in yet. The only two completed full length cycles (Prolangtum and Sifu) went well and they were pleased, and liked it more than 4-OHN.
Thanks Sledge.. like I said on the bb forum two thumbs up to you! Seems like you are the only one that actually cares about their customers.. I don't see anybody else posting anything regarding their m-dien product!I have posted this everywhere, if you placed an order between Feb 25 and march 1st and you feel your batch isnt working I will be happy to replace it. I know there was only one weak batch a total of 18 bottles, but I will always stand by my work so it isnt a problem.
Just remember this isnt the same as M1T, although the gains form it should be good, not everyone will react the same way prolangtum does. I really believe this will help more in changing body comp then it will be like adding 10lbs in 7 days like m1t.
My bad......when Sifu was commenting to Pro about the comparison between MD and 4-OHN, it sounded like he had done both.As far as I know Sifu never used M-Dien. Maybe you're thinking of Loki?
Well think about the fact that Bruce used to write for T-mag as Brock Strasser, so you know the guy isn't 100% honest, plus he knows all about shady marketing tactics.......Myostat anyoneWell, Bruce claims the first Kilo of M-dien was only 60% and that they didn't use it. Whether that is true or not remains to be seen. Bruce is an interesting fellow, I don't know enough about him to say one way or the other.
Are they glass bottles with no label and a dropper or plastic bottles with labels and oral syringes, or something different?Sldge,
I got four bottles of the unflavored betas and I havent tried them yet and dont plan on it for about 2 more weeks. I ordered them on the 27th of Feburary. What would you recommend I do with them? I dont want to get stuck with babby **** if I can help it prior to taking it.
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I'm currently using kilo's. I did use sledges first unflavored batch for 2 wks with no results. sledge replaced that with the flavored one which I haven;t tried yetJust this morning at Avant, Pro reitterated how potent he thought the stuff was, and he is pretty maxed out muscle wise.
Whose product are you using? Did you get stuck with the flavored MD from Sledge that fell out of solution? If so, he'll replace it free. Or are you using the Kilo stuff that is being suspected as being severely underdosed? Sledge had his product tested, Kilo did not.
Scotty just reported that he started the new batch last Saturday. So his results break down as:We need to get Scotty to comment when he started over with the un-flavored batch? Since he was using the bad batch at first, it could be that the first week or 10 days are irrelavent.
Are they glass bottles with no label and a dropper or plastic bottles with labels and oral syringes, or something different?
From what I understand, its the flavored batch that is the problem. Check with Sledge on that. As far as kilo's product.......there are certainly questions thereI'm currently using kilo's. I did use sledges first unflavored batch for 2 wks with no results. sledge replaced that with the flavored one which I haven;t tried yet
No dropper or syringes here bro. I got what resemables a small lotion bottle. Theyre blue plastic bottles with a lid that has a cap that you push down on one side and the other side pops up slightly. No means of measureing what so ever but Im not worried about that aspect. (I have plenty of Oral Syringes and syringe stoppers for bottles so I can just pull out what I need.) It has a label but its a regular computer printed label in black and white that just says:Are they glass bottles with no label and a dropper or plastic bottles with labels and oral syringes, or something different?
Didn't find a Loki log at Avant.....searched all the way back before Christmas.As far as I know Sifu never used M-Dien. Maybe you're thinking of Loki?
That's the one I'm on now, but sldge threw in some oral syringes for me. I guess he just likes me best . I've been on for 10 days with this batch.No dropper or syringes here bro. I got what resemables a small lotion bottle. Theyre blue plastic bottles with a lid that has a cap that you push down on one side and the other side pops up slightly. No means of measureing what so ever but Im not worried about that aspect. (I have plenty of Oral Syringes and syringe stoppers for bottles so I can just pull out what I need.) It has a label but its a regular computer printed label in black and white that just says:
"Methyl-Dein Beta Version
1 mg/ml 1-3ml daily dose
www.DesignerSupps.com"
Im not to concerned about the asthetics of the packaging. Im concerned about whats inside the packaging itself. Sldge is an excellant businessman and Im sure he'll have a solution for me.
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Absolutely, but you gotta talk to Sldge.Yo Supersoldier, are you doing any bloodwok on yourself while going through this cycle of m-dien like you did with the m1t?
Read my cycle log. Start at the last page.I haven't read one good thread on methyl-d. I don't know if it is b/c everybody used sledge's bad batch or if the product is worthless. I'm not sure if I'm even going to buy it if I don't notice anything.
I understand that it isn't a mass builder or anything, but nobody has even mentioned any hardness, increased vascularity, or any other positive aesthetic side effects. So why is this stuff even worth taking.
Benefits= little to none
Risks= possibly high liver risks
Not a very good ratio to me.
To date, Sldge has not put anything out on the market that is not 97% to 98% pure. All his betas were made from The origional 100GM sample he was sent. That tested 98% pure. Because of what's been going on, He is having the kilo set aside for tabs tested as well. He has stated that if something is amiss with that batch, that it will be dumped. A huge hit to his wallet. He was very up front about the bad beta batch. He replaced those bottles to all his costomers at his expense again. Some of you should relax and let this play out. Sldge has been straight up about all this with everyone. Again, I am running a log Here and at AL. So far, I'm impressed.chinese guys appear that they sold sldge and kilo something else thats not ndien.
Have you been paying attention? Most of the early users got bottles from that 18 bottle batch that was fucked up.(hey it was a beta) We've been through this before.I can't speak for anyone that got Gaspari or Kilo.If the original 100g sample is totally pure, it still doesn;t answer questions why some testers took 2 weeks to see something. If it was supposed to be a uber potent oral it shouldn't take 2 weeks to kick in?
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