You grow larger muscles by forcing blood and nutrients into the muscle via the pump. The bigger the pump the better
I think I’m leaning this way too. Same goes for S7, VasoDrive-ap, fitNox and other branded pump ingredients Vaso6 is a possible exception as I seem to respond well to it and the branded glycerol ingredients are definite exceptions, as I find them very effective.
But it’s temporary like an actual pump I thought
Cell swelling and even NO itself are part of muscle growth signaling.
Ok
I highly disagree.............why do people think clumping is such an issue? just put it in water and shake it up......problem solved
I’ve played around with some pump products. Personally, I don’t care for them too much. I don’t really notice any benefits versus any regular preworkout. But they do have benefits.
I don't want a less effective product because of some clumping. I want the most effective product possible regardless of taste and consistency.
The benifits are getting a better pump and the bonus benefits is that you don't have to put any stimulants in your body.
I agree , glycerol is amazing but people will complain and they dont want to take a second and break off the clump lol
This is what you would think, but surprisingly many consider a taste of a PWO for example as an important - even deciding - factor.
haha on point .. wish others can get that lightbulb turned on
I miss Super Swole!
It’s getting reformulated. Sounded like it’ll be back soon.
I was thinking this. Obviously most guys we talk to here prefer results to taste. But a majority of people? Not even close.
People who care more about taste then making progress....
Glycerol is a great ingredient but the clumping is terrible. Even the forms that claim to not clump still do; they may clump less than regular glycerol but they still clump. That's why we decided just to offer GlycerPump in capsules as a convenient way that people can GlycerPump with the pre-workout of their choice rather than risk having issues with another product with it in there.
You'll be very happy soon
That is correct; thank you. The reformulation part is done, we are just trying to get the flavors the way we want them.
You both are absolutely correct.
Bingo Bango
Because the average person opens up the container and thinks they got old spoiled junk. It does NOT matter how much you explain to them, even ahead of them opening it, they still think something is wrong with it. Returns on glycerol containing powders is much higher than non.
That is the fist question 90% of my customers ask. Not "What are the ingredients? How do they work? Are they dosed properly? Nope, I get, "Does it taste good? Have you used it?"
...unless you eliminate or minimize additional hygroscopic ingredients. Then it doesn't clump. GlycerPump, when sitting alone in an airtight jar, will never clump. It's only when it's added to hygroscopic ingredients that it can start to clump up. There are options here.
That's exactly what they think. I can't even tell you how many emails I've received over the years with people saying the product went bad...or expired. This is why I now explain (in BIG BOLD LETTERS right on the product page) that the glycerol within the product WILL cause clumping, but that it does not impair the effectiveness of the product. I want to make sure people know this BEFORE buying it, but I still receive emails saying the same thing.
I do respect a lot of your knowledge and insight on these threads, just want to explain my view a little. I just don’t see it as a majority of users accepting clumping. I like glycerol but I’ve had too many products turn from a little clumpy to almost a syrup like gloopy mess at the bottom. That’s a bridge too far. I also tend to share workout drinks to my wife and au pair if they want a morning workout, and clumps inside the tub are very unappealing to a casual consumer!
I agree with you on this. No matter how hard companies try to educate consumers on clumping, 99% of general consumers are always going to think that clumping equals something being wrong with a product and I can understand from their perspective.
No I got you, in the bigger scheme of things are definitely right. Sometimes I forget that these supplements sell to people outside the forums. I personally just want the results and most of the guys/gals I work with or work out with are in a similar boat. But I forget that we make up a very small portion of the population. At the same time tho, how many soccer moms or fit chicks or even the guys who work out for general fitness are looking at pump products tho.
They are definitely more of a niche crowd. That niche does exist outside of the forums in the general health customer space which is why the flavor is so important, but overall stimulant based pre-workouts are exponentially more popular.
Or stick to liquid for that ingredient...unless you eliminate or minimize additional hygroscopic ingredients. Then it doesn't clump. GlycerPump, when sitting alone in an airtight jar, will never clump. It's only when it's added to hygroscopic ingredients that it can start to clump up. There are options here.
I've noticed that too, the all or nothing stim crowds.
How would that work, you have to have all the ingredients be liquid in a pump product wouldn't you. You can't have one ingredient be liquid in the other 12 be powder
Lol
