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Yeah hopefully u didn't waste any moneywow, nice. hopefully mine start to hit pretty soon.
Yeah hopefully u didn't waste any moneywow, nice. hopefully mine start to hit pretty soon.
i hear thatYeah hopefully u didn't waste any money
It should be up from here if you are noticing some recent weight gain.wow, nice. hopefully mine start to hit pretty soon.
Are you noticing increased vascularity? I have definitely noticed it and is something I really like out of this product!I hope. My arms looks huge right now and when I gain, it shows in my arms so that's a sign as well
I'm very sore from yesterday's workout. I added more volume, but I think that's how it needs to be on cycle for a 3 day routine IMO
says the guy who cant wait for PCT.... lolAre you noticing increased vascularity? I have definitely noticed it and is something I really like out of this product!
Yea I liked the run just ready to see what I keep!says the guy who cant wait for PCT.... lol
AM has me pretty dang interested.... Im wondering if I should do something like AMv3/Tren. instead of UD. Give my liver a break. Or hell just stack um hahah! I guess when another one of those REALLY good coupon codes come out (if ever) I will give it a try. My cycles end up costing around the same amount as a AMv3 anyway... just um... I do run a lot of stuff over it though. We shall see.
R1balla I agree with on cycle training being less = more. After reading a lot of lou simmons, weidler, and WSBB... all guys who are not shy about gear usage, I think 4 times a week for on cycle MAX, 3 days is perfect though for those who aren't advanced (training 10+ years and working with REALLY smart training).
Sounds just right, remember these aren't quick acting methyls. 3 weeks in and you should notice significant changes.well its on the first post on the first page lol
i started 1/19 so tomorrow will be the end of week 2
i have a feeling that ill start to put on weight and strength during week 3 and 4
i have, but only a little bit. nothing huge to drop your jaw over about. i get a nasty pump in the gym though. i love itAre you noticing increased vascularity? I have definitely noticed it and is something I really like out of this product!
ha. nah man. only halfway through!subbin... late? idk its the 6th page lol
well, cause i will be doing Erase Pro + Toco 8 + DAA + Anabeta.says the guy who cant wait for PCT.... lol.
Either way you will do great. Longer run = more gains + more sides + harder recovery. BUT, more gains... lol. Good luck in whatever you decide man!I'm not regretting making this move yet.... As I said before, when I gain, it's my body composition. My legs and arms look bigger, just doesn't show on the scale. I have a second bottle on hand, and if gains start to show during the second half of this run, I will use it. If not, I'll save it.
Yeah I thought about going 8, but people don't understand being tired and jacked on stims is not a good feeling.I've seen most people say it comes in noticeably in week 3.
If I ran a PP cycle I would opt for 8-10 weeks lol. But that's just me. I probably would also want a kicker meth of some sort as well lol.
6 caps even made me super tired.Balla, I would personally go to 8 caps and test it for a few days. I think it will help a lot. V2 was rough at 8 due to lethargy, but I'm running 8-9 of v3 with no sides at all. I think upping it in ur third week will really kick in the gains. Just a thought.
If your following closely, I'll update in more detail then. I haven't done it in detail cause I've been depressed about my results so far. I'll update in a few minutes after I get my final meal in. I'll edit the two week update so check that.Thanks for the update. I'm actually using your log as a gauge for my cycle. I'm one week in and following your log closely. If your still not seeing any real gains by next week then I'm going to start hdrol on top of my AMv3 for 4 weeks. I understand that everyone's body reacts differently but the mojority of the reviews on andromass v3 seem mediocre at best. If I have this whole comprehensive pct set up then I might as well have the gains from the cycle and shutdown to warrant taking it.
I would, but I'm only 22......sure it doesn't shut down as hard, but a ph is still a ph. I chose andromass cause 8 - 12 pounds with limited suppression with easy pct seems awesome so I took it. I've never even had the thought of taking real gear or any ph in over four years.Yeah I thought about going 8, but people don't understand being tired and jacked on stims is not a good feeling.
6 caps even made me super tired.
Even though you don't feel like you aren't having any sides, your bloodwork may show sides ya know. I was just hoping for 8 quality pounds after pct and limited suppression. I start Toco 8 and DAA on off days on Monday btwBalla, I would personally go to 8 caps and test it for a few days. I think it will help a lot. V2 was rough at 8 due to lethargy, but I'm running 8-9 of v3 with no sides at all. I think upping it in ur third week will really kick in the gains. Just a thought.
Yeah I understand. Well hopefully these next two weeks hit good. This morning I ate p&j with milk and my andromass pills then an hour later had biscuts, eggs, and bacon with chocolate milk so I started off the day with a good amount of cals and protein. Gonna have a shake before my next meal as well.Yeah I don't know.
It's a good product that's for sure. I did gain weight. I don't know what the last 2 weeks would've brought for me, but it feels good to get into PCT and I lost some bloat. I was super hungry during this run.
You are right easy gains, easy PCT and not many sides is always a plus. I have 2 full bottles left of v2 and 1 half bottle, think in the future I'll probably due 5 week cycles. I couldn't really push and focus during the last week so, I probably would not have been 2 good the last 2 weeks of and 8 week cycle either. 5 seems like it should be good....
That's probably what I will do next time.
4,000 calories would have you gaining weight regardless of hormone interaction normally yes? Are you leaning out? Go for 6 weeks as it sounds like AM is kicking in (increase in recovery/pumps/vascualrity).Yeah I understand. Well hopefully these next two weeks hit good. This morning I ate p&j with milk and my andromass pills then an hour later had biscuts, eggs, and bacon with chocolate milk so I started off the day with a good amount of cals and protein. Gonna have a shake before my next meal as well.
I kno many won't believe this but I have a very fast metabolism.. Always have.... I can eat as much as I want and still have at the least a visible four pack. I gain best when I eat lots of carbs so I'm gonna start to focus on less lean proteins and more carb heavy4,000 calories would have you gaining weight regardless of hormone interaction normally yes? Are you leaning out? Go for 6 weeks as it sounds like AM is kicking in (increase in recovery/pumps/vascualrity).
I eat around 4k cals a day normally and gain maybe a pound every two weeks.... But it's hardly ever lots of fat gain. I gain lean mass which takes longer. If I ate 4k cals of burgers then sure I'd gain fast lol4,000 calories would have you gaining weight regardless of hormone interaction normally yes? Are you leaning out? Go for 6 weeks as it sounds like AM is kicking in (increase in recovery/pumps/vascualrity).
You need to up cals bud, if you normally eat 4,000 then you need to be pushing 4500-4750 at least. It sounds to me like you are getting secondary effects from being on cycle just not the weight gain which leads to the conclusion of more food Give it a shot and go for 6 weeks as opposed to 4.I eat around 4k cals a day normally and gain maybe a pound every two weeks.... But it's hardly ever lots of fat gain. I gain lean mass which takes longer. If I ate 4k cals of burgers then sure I'd gain fast lol
I'll try to increase cals, hard to do that much for me during the week, especially clinical. I get hungry all the time but have a hard time eating big in one sittingYou need to up cals bud, if you normally eat 4,000 then you need to be pushing 4500-4750 at least. It sounds to me like you are getting secondary effects from being on cycle just not the weight gain which leads to the conclusion of more food Give it a shot and go for 6 weeks as opposed to 4.
Make that one meal still under 1,000 though I'm sureHow many cals do you think I had for breakfast? I'm not home so can't go online, I'm on my phone
Peanut butter and jelly sandwich with 1 1/2 cups of milk. Hour later had two biscuts with butter and honey, four strips of bacon and two whole eggs with cheese and 1 1/2 cups of chocolate milk
Try and add more eggs to that breakfast (whole eggs) easy way to get in quality cals.I'll try to increase cals, hard to do that much for me during the week, especially clinical. I get hungry all the time but have a hard time eating big in one sitting
Yeah I need to do that. I just have no appetite when I first wake up so I like to wait an hour and my first meal passes through me very fast and I'm starving shortly after. I need to stretch my stomachMake that one meal still under 1,000 though I'm sure
Sounds good!!andro alert....im seeing acne finally
Yeah should put on weight due to increase in protein synthesis even with the same diet on cycle.. in addition to the increase in glycogen stores..though if you are actively burning more fat at the same time might not see the weight on the scalei eat as much as i can man. on the weekends i chow down, but during actual school hours, its hard. gotta sneak it
not trying to sound like a jerk here, but PHs work whether you eat or not..... but if u dont eat after the cycle, you lose the gains. how is andromass different? i would think i would eat the same and b able to put on weight
That's a good question. I would think you still need pct and it's still in you, just like if I was on crack and used a certain amount every day. I would get used to it and eventually not feel anything at all from it, but if I stopped, I would need rehab cause it still affected my body. Just a thought. I don't know your answer though lolI've seen many people post about not responding to different prohormes like pmag or andrmass or halotest. If after running a cycle and not responding to it is the shutdown the same? For example, if I run a prohormone 6 weeks and see no gains, have no testicular atrophy, and physically feel no different should a full pct still be adhered to?
even though its 11 pounds, IMO methylated pro hormones are not worth it. especially at my age. and the weight gain is from the other PH. i ran mdrol at 17 and put on 8 pounds the first weekI just finished my 2nd week of andromass and superdrol and I'm up 11lbs, I did just come off a cut so take that into consideration but that being said I would suggest running a methyl kickstart with andromass its really worth it.....11lbs up and still pretty ripped good enough for me 6weeks to go
Damneven though its 11 pounds, IMO methylated pro hormones are not worth it. especially at my age. and the weight gain is from the other PH. i ran mdrol at 17 and put on 8 pounds the first week
Mdrol will give you some mean gains... I went up almost 25lbs in the 5 weeks I ran it. Granted its not all muscle lol. So far only down 5lbs though from my cycle.even though its 11 pounds, IMO methylated pro hormones are not worth it. especially at my age. and the weight gain is from the other PH. i ran mdrol at 17 and put on 8 pounds the first week
Mdrol will give you some mean gains... I went up almost 25lbs in the 5 weeks I ran it. Granted its not all muscle lol. So far only down 5lbs though from my cycle.
AMv3 is nice for lack of sides and stuff.
yea... that's why i ran Mdrol and have massive stores of it.i will comment on this if i see any gains. right now, not so much.
Here's to hoping this turns around.i will comment on this if i see any gains. right now, not so much.
yeah but i want kids one day....and i like my liver lolyea... that's why i ran Mdrol and have massive stores of it.
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