anyone have a reccomended run of this?
dosage/length.
thanks
h19
dosage/length.
thanks
h19
Many people use 20mg EDanyone have a reccomended run of this?
dosage/length.
thanks
h19
how safe is anavar anyway ? i mean maybe a lil easier on ur liver , lesser bloat and stuf but u can have that with other steroids too if u use them well .
you guys are comparing var to Fina........i mean one you have to inject ED..or at least EOD, the other you swallow in pill form...So if someone didnt want to do all those injections, and all they wanted was 5lb lbm...then Var would be the way to go...Plus...its good to harden up, and if thats your goal with no weight gain....then..its good as well...
h19
I may need to go look it up, but right off the top of my head, I believe oxandrolone used at more than 40mg a day was shown in clinical studies to cause liver toxicity.how safe is anavar anyway ? i mean maybe a lil easier on ur liver , lesser bloat and stuf but u can have that with other steroids too if u use them well .
i say do a proper steroid cycle , then see for urself that evrything will go right...
Originally posted by Aneas
Yeah but Var cost 10 times as much. Alot to pay for small gains. Everyday injects are nothing once you get used to them you actually miss them.
see depends where you get it........would you say...$100 for 100 5mg var tabs was too expensive? I wouldn't.
china?
h19
I may need to go look it up, but right off the top of my head, I believe oxandrolone used at more than 40mg a day was shown in clinical studies to cause liver toxicity.
I took ananvar alone for a couple of weeks and developed gynecomastia is that what the fina is forfina+anavar=lean mass gain....no water weight what so ever.
fina 76mg/day for 8 weeks
anavar 40mg/day for 10 weeks
a friend of mine did this along with some t3...and omg what a difference that made!
I took ananvar alone for a couple of weeks and developed gynecomastia is that what the fina is for
You were not taking anavar.I took ananvar alone for a couple of weeks and developed gynecomastia is that what the fina is for
actually i was taking 100 percent oxandrin thats what the prescription saidYou were not taking anavar.
actually i was taking 100 percent oxandrin thats what the prescription said
prescribed for legitimate reasons. Im fascinated by the disbelief or yet denial that many have on it actually causing gynomastia. I am not a juicer or bodybuilder in other words I was not taking anything else from anybody other than a reputable professional specialist.
Im sorry if my previous posting emanated a tone other than one of humble interest or desperate search for this happening to me when it should not have. My intentions were not to insult or offend. I just feel that as what you just posted the dosage they are talking about are for 2.5 to 20mg not for more than that.In this case, then you are in rarity. I suggest not using AAS. However, you need to leave your attitude behind or find a new board. No one is attacking you. My initial post relates to the FACT that anavar is commonly faked.
Some info from the insert:
ADVERSE REACTIONS
The following adverse reactions have been associated with use of anabolic steroids: Hepatic: Cholestatic jaundice with, rarely, hepatic necrosis and death. Hepatocellular neoplasms and peliosis hepatis with long-term therpy (See WARNINGS). Reversible changes in liver function tests also occur including increased bromsulfophthalein (BSP) retention, and increases in serum bilirubin, aspartate aminotransferase (AST, SGOT) and alkaline phosphatase.
In males:
Prepubertal: Phallic enlargement and increased frequency or persistence of erections.
Postpubertal: Inhibition of testicular function, testicular atrophy and oligospermia, impotence, chronic priapism, epididymitis, and bladder irritability.
Relating to dosage
Adults: The response of individuals to anabolic steroids varies. The daily adult dosage is 2.5 to 20mg given in 2 to 4 divided doses. The desired response may be achieved with as little as 2.5mg or as much as 20mg daily. A course of therapy of 2 to 4 weeks is usually adequate. This may be repeated intermittently as indicated.
Notice what is missing from the adverse reactions in males?
I understand, and in fact, I have spent much of the evening trying to find some studies indicating the development of gyno in males from anavar. Thus far, I have come up empty. I will continue to look as I am intrigued by this.I just feel that as what you just posted the dosage they are talking about are for 2.5 to 20mg not for more than that.
I understand, and in fact, I have spent much of the evening trying to find some studies indicating the development of gyno in males from anavar. Thus far, I have come up empty. I will continue to look as I am intrigued by this.
Initially, I expected that you had received fake anavar tablets. However, this apparently is not the case.
Please post the info your doctor gives you, I would like to read the opinion.I am interested in using them again now what else can i do to ensure ascertain that it goes well in the gyno dept. In other words if you were in my shoes and had 2mo wortth of oxandrin with expiration date 2003. would you use them and if so with what else to be safe with the gyno. Sorry for all the effort you put into helping me out. Im calling my doctor today and asking him to go throught th eprocess of finding the "real" reason for my gyno with me. Size thanks for everytrhing as for now i have to agress with you my gyno was probably not from anavar. Please allow me however to post you what ever information my doctor can pull out of his bible.
It was prescribed to me because i had post surgical involuntary weight loss. It was a great effort to try to get me to gain weight but after the oxandrin it was successfull about 30lbs in 2months I think but i got a little bit of gyno and love handles and one disgusting stretchmark that looks like a worm on my wasit line very gross. I was taking the wrong dose recommended thoughIf this is true, you're an exception and will get gyno from virtually all AA steroids.
I don't want to get too personal, but can you say why your doctor would prescribe this? Are you in the US?
It was prescribed to me because i had post surgical involuntary weight loss. It was a great effort to try to get me to gain weight but after the oxandrin it was successfull about 30lbs in 2months I think but i got a little bit of gyno and love handles and one disgusting stretchmark that looks like a worm on my wasit line very gross. I was taking the wrong dose recommended thoughIf this is true, you're an exception and will get gyno from virtually all AA steroids.
I don't want to get too personal, but can you say why your doctor would prescribe this? Are you in the US?
I'd like to hear more about your doctor's explanation. Maybe we are splitting hairs here, but I think the problem is that the gist of what your doctor's saying may seem right to you, but he's not being technically precise. If by some small chance the anavar led to a rise in test levels, some rare individual could have excess test that later leads to a conversion that causes the gyno.I just spoke with my doctor he states and is very adamant that this medicine does in fact cause gynecomastia.
It was prescribed to me because i had post surgical involuntary weight loss. It was a great effort to try to get me to gain weight but after the oxandrin it was successfull about 30lbs in 2months I think but i got a little bit of gyno and love handles and one disgusting stretchmark that looks like a worm on my wasit line very gross. I was taking the wrong dose recommended though
no my bf percentage was very low actually and i was under my ideal weight
I was thinking the same thingMaybe your medical condition at the time and other drugs you were taking also created a hormonal environment that made you prone to this side effect. Just a guess though.
IMO- D-Bol>Anavar.
oh, i guess it helps to read the WHOLE thread before you post!!He obtained his Oxandrin legally for its designed usage. It was real.
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