I agree...for a name, SuperPump is the best. I think Juggernaut is a little out there
Thanks man!You kind of look like Vin Diesel with your head shaved.
Solid progress by the way. I didn't take the time to read through each page from beginning to end, but I caught things here & there with less then desirable blood tests regarding your T. Hope things are working out and solid work for sure.
sounds good man!Update:
Still lifting hard. Changed my routine up a little...doing cardio 25min 3x week now...and supersetting/higher reps on every workout day. I'm working out in the 10-12 rep range.
So far, despite my low-T, I'm up a solid 5lbs or so...the scale shows 187-190lb consistantly. Mirror looks around 10-12% bodyfat.
Final blood test to determine treatment/no treatment for my Low-T levels will be next tuesday.
Hopefully I'll be on 100mg/test or something soon...and then things will get crazy fun lol.I've been dreaming about running another havoc cycle at 6 weeks 40-50mg without any PCT! 200lb at 6% bodyfat isn't too far off....
I've ran havoc twice and I had a terrible attempt with m-drol for a week.you had a great take with havoc what did your pct look like and what where you running havoc at?
no that Ive looked more into Havoc/Epi, I want to do a cycle of one of the two, but I already bought some X-Tren, once the ban settles down, I MIGHT get some...same goes for Clomid/Nolva. I already bought Nolva, but after reading and learning so much more I deff want to give Clomid a tryI've ran havoc twice and I had a terrible attempt with m-drol for a week.
The first time I ran havoc 20/20/30/30 with Tamoxifene Citrate 20/20/20/10. Huge gains, +12-15lbs, PCT sucked....I felt terrible because the SERM murdered my sex drive and well being. I mistakenly thought I was shutdown, but felt great as soon as I dropped the SERM.
Second round I ran 30/30/30...I had to quit early because my arthritis in my right elbow was severely irritated from the dryness of the compound. I gained around 5 solid pounds anyhow. PCT was I-Force Reversitol. SERM on standby.
If/When I ever run havoc again, or any PH for that matter, If i'm not on some sort of TRT, I will certainly run Clomid only for PCT.
I dont care what anyone on these boards say, Clomid destroys every PCT hands down. I've tried Toremifene, Tamoxifene (twice), and AI OTC products. NOTHING compares to clomid IMO. I ran a standalone cycle of Clomid for 10 weeks and even though my test only increased 200ng/dl, I felt like it was substantially working compared to nolvadex/tamoxifene.
actually, considering I started out very small, all my shirts are small.Holy **** with that last picture I just realized not only are we the same height, you look a lot like me, in face and bone structure anyway.
Well, a younger, less hairy, and way more jacked version of me. Definitely going to be following this more closely as it is giving me a good reference of what different builds are going to look like on me as I get bigger.
Let me ask you, you got a favorite brand/size of Tshirt? I find the larges tend to be way too long and look like I'm wearing a skirt if I have a jacket over them but mediums are too tight in the chest and shoulders. I'm sure you've already figured this out like a year ago, I'm just now getting to the point where the mediums are starting to look bad.
How long did it take for you to get on TRT, and were did you go? (PM Me) It's kinda odd for a younger guy to be able to get TRT, even if you do truly need it.
How long did it take for you to get on TRT, and were did you go? (PM Me) It's kinda odd for a younger guy to be able to get TRT, even if you do truly need it.
Figure I would update...its now the end of winter break.
Been on TRT for a few months now, 300mg/day Gel + 100iu HCG. Despite some adrenal stress/sleeping/anxiety issues I've managed forward progress
Current Weight: 196-200lbs estimated 12-13% (abs barely visible)
Arms Size: Finally solid 16+inches
Deadlift record is up to 365x5
Squat Record is up to 315x6 (below 90 degrees)
Bench is now 225x5 for 5 sets, this is a major major PR. 3 years ago I was repping 115.
Goal remains 200lbs at 8%...this is going to require getting to at least 210-215 at current bf and then cutting.
I guess you guys haven't read my thread all the way...
"Havoc without PCT" --- would mean, I would be on Testosterone-Replacement-Therapy because I have low testosterone because of a pituitary and varicocele disorder. If I was on TRT, no pct would be needed for any gear as a sustained administration for life of testosterone would be maintained. This isn't necessarily a thing to look forward to when you are 20 years old.
I also believe I "dont need gear for my age". But, when you have testosterone levels in the low 300's and your estradiol in the low teens, TRT is like giving a steak to an ethiopian. As of now, I'm not able to perform "at my age".
not running any yetSo you are running cycles again even though your testerone in tuned now?
It is in the 900's no on which scale?
not running any yet
the ng/dl scale. 250ng/dl-1200ng/dl
M - chest/trisCan you tell me what your workout consisted of?
sounds like you were having a rocky time but now your kickin a$$ :head:UPDATE:!!!
I tried out havoc over christmas break for a few days and started having heart palpitations and insomnia/anxiety/loss of appetite. So I gave up on it.
Came back to it again this month, started out with 10mg and SLOWLY worked my way up to 40-50mg. This time, I've been taking a little bit of arimidex with it and limiting my HCG usage. I think the HCG+Havoc+TRT was causing too much of some hormone in my body, be it cortisol, progesterone, dhea, estradiol, I don't know, but the HCG whilst on havoc has been messing with me. They days I don't use HCG, I happen to sleep better.
Anyhow, its been 28 days on havoc so far. First 2 week at 20mg, 3rd week 30, 4th week 40. I'm up to a solid 202lbs from 195! My arms/shoulders are way way bigger, this is absolutely draw dropping. The pumps are out of this world at 50mg. I can't hardly type because my forearms are cramping.
Strength gains are stupid. My bench went from 205x10 3 sets to 225x10, and 275x5 (extreme PR). Deadlift max is certainly beyond 450.
Hoping to keep up the havoc for another 2-3 weeks. Next week I will run straight 50mg. At this rate, the gains are more substantial then ever before...and the fact that I'm going to have TRT afterwards to fall back on will make them permanent hopefully.
lol, I'm always on real gear. I'm on TRT. 300mg of T-gel/daily and 100iu hcg daily. My T is in the 1000+ng/dl, thats equal to about 200mg/week of Test-Cyp/enanthateHey monsterbox nice job on all your hard work I was looking thru the first part of your post. Did you ever do a real gear cycle or not yet? I didn't look through all of the 7 posts so not sure.
:dance:=:rocketwhore:lol, I'm always on real gear. I'm on TRT. 300mg of T-gel/daily and 100iu hcg daily. My T is in the 1000+ng/dl, thats equal to about 200mg/week of Test-Cyp/enanthate
I'm stacking havoc on top at this moment. I don't think I'll ever do any more test...I feel fine and little kick here and there from an oral is enough.
how is the clen working out for you?:dance:=:rocketwhore:
Ill just say I wish I could take it all year hahahow is the clen working out for you?
you like it that much? How does it compare to ephedra side effect wise? I hated ephedra, it made me cramp up and feel super wired/shaky.Ill just say I wish I could take it all year haha
:bryce:you know its good to see your porgress, but did what you went through not teach you anything. I give you props for your gains, i really do. But at some point you need to consider stopping hormonals(yes i know you might of had a thyroid problem or whatever even before the steroids). Anxiety form a few days of havoc, somethings not right. your 22 brother, steroids shouldnt be a staple. Im not flaming, ust a concerned member who had followed this and other logs of yours.
Sincerely bro, thanks, I appreciate the concern and input.you know its good to see your porgress, but did what you went through not teach you anything. I give you props for your gains, i really do. But at some point you need to consider stopping hormonals(yes i know you might of had a thyroid problem or whatever even before the steroids). Anxiety form a few days of havoc, somethings not right. your 22 brother, steroids shouldnt be a staple. Im not flaming, ust a concerned member who had followed this and other logs of yours.
:dance:=:rocketwhore:
Thank god someone said it.First things first bro, I would ask how old are you? Based on you mug-shots I would guess not far past 18-19 yrs old which is way to young to start. You have so much natural juice flowing thru you right now that you shouldn't need much else. Make sure your getting enough food, resting enough and training correctly (not overtraining) and you should continue to grow. I would continue to establish a good foundation before I looked at getting on the ****. Oh by the way, I don't see any legs shots in here. Accident, or on purpose? You'd be surprised what leg training cane due for the entire body!
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