This is an area where I agree. Too much AI on cycle reduces gains. If my nips start itching instead of adding more AI, Nolva and some B6 at 500mg/day kick that the f*ck out the door. For me if the nips get sore we are past the point of AI.
Me?
Me too.
Not you. I've enjoy your input.
Likewise
My crew trains mornings almost exclusively, as soon as the gym opens. It’s the only thing that everyone can make work with their jobs.
Me too.
Spurfy what are your thoughts on naltrexone during cycle with along with serm?
Only good things can come from this.
I definitely have high hopes for this method regardless. Exactly getting the damn things done, is the most important part, add in a bad ass motivating environment and that can really intensify things. Also training in sub optimal situations can make you stronger in optimal ones. This is why I train deadlifts with a regular bar, so when I use a deadlift bar I can break off the floor easier with more weight. Get good at running when it is hot and watch how fast you are when it cools off...
Youre welcome holmes
In my experience var gives more solid dense muscle gains but tbol gives more noticeable gains, by that I mean more bulk to the muscle.
Just remember that depending on cycle severity you will need more or less clomid. If your balls start softening up/ shrinking you should bump the dose up to a max of 50mg/ day. I'd start with 50mg EOD
Will do!Oh and don't forget to update the clomid thread with your results, good or bad
Haha it's cool man I was just messing with you a little.. thing with me is that I always gain weight during my cycles and I just find var being on the absolute bottom. We don't like you said have to jump on eachother. Maybe there are some soul out there that loves var and can bulk 20 pounds.. what do i know right? If I had to review it , it just wouldn't make it compared to any other aas. The good thing it's that it's safe but so Is primo and both are highly expensive.. since I mostly stay away from orals i just do mast instead.Honestly, wasn't trying to do anything there. Just talking with you. In our other conversations regarding the growth from Anavar you said you had not actually tried to bulk on it because it was not a bulker. That you have used it for recomp and got much better gains from TBol using similar strategies.
I am done with the silliness of us all trumping each others experiences and opinions on the matter of how well it works for growth though. There are just too many other individual factors from person to person to get a consensus. For that matter too many changes from cycle to cycle with the same person... I grow better on Var than test, and better than test on TBol too. Out of those two which for me are almost identical in growth for me there are a lot more benefits with the Var. That and the better health profile makes it the best choice for me personally. I learned a few more benefits of it in here that I wasn't aware of and that sounds cool to me.
Now to test the process and theory of how to cycle the var... That part I am excited about doing. Also excited to see the blood work after and how it looks. If this improves how var works for me then awesome! WIN WIN!!! If not it will be a nice mild blast at a time i could use the external boost in motivation.
Exactly getting the damn things done, is the most important part, add in a bad ass motivating environment and that can really intensify things. Also training in sub optimal situations can make you stronger in optimal ones. This is why I train deadlifts with a regular bar, so when I use a deadlift bar I can break off the floor easier with more weight. Get good at running when it is hot and watch how fast you are when it cools off...
I ran a short oral cycle of primo way back in the day. It was pretty nice, but even more expensive than anavar.
MMA! To me nothing is more fun/ gets you in better shape.
Yeah when you're happy with yourself you can kinda just chill with some safe cycles to keep what you have. Primo is fantastic but so damn expensive. It's like the perfect in between to run with test, doesn't give much size at all, gives tren looking gains and is probably the safest one out there if you run it properly. Don't get me wrong if I can cruise on tren I'm all in.
I trained for about 3 years, was about to do my first fight and tore my labrum at a seminar with some youngster who decided to go full speed on a shot stuffing drill and lunged his hip at my shoulder to stuff the shot full contact. I was relaxed and moving half speed so my arm just shot around him and tore the labrum half off the bone... I have thought about going back but I worry about jacking it up since I still experience issues with that shoulder from time to time. I think I could still do it but just as an activity... that is humbling to me of course but would be a blast.
Yeah I trained for a couple years, got my kids involved too. I agree grappling with a well matched opponent is a blast but yes it gasses you out quick.
Know what I mean Kleen?
I got invited to a bjj school and I might get it this year. I used to compete in wrestling at a pretty high level until I got tired of it. Also wanted to try boxing
MMA is a blast. Just find a good school. Beats a BJJ class+boxing class. Again, do research and find a GOOD school, maybe try a few out, they usually give you a couple free classes.
There are actually one guy I know In the ufc that used to compete with me. I never had the need to punch anyone in the face haha. I do however find training interesting but I would never Compete. Problem where I live is that our wrestling is really good but the good mma training is only in the south and i live in the north. (Not from the US) I used to live there however in Louisiana and I saw a lot of places to work out so I can only imagine in the bigger states.
I stay in BR. Louisiana has some really good schools, I trained in Shreveport and there is a really good gym in Carencro, a top UFC fighter trains there. When I lived in OK I was friends with a guy that lost the wrestling state championship to Johnny Hendricks. Dude is a beast, ended his carreer when changing a driveshaft on his truck, when he pulled it the truck rolled over his torso breaking his back.
Interesting, I happen to love Cormier cause of my relation to Louisiana. Dang this weekend's ufc is ruined by the way. Read the news ?
Yeah. Mcgreggor is either on coke, meth or drinks way too much. Anyone in their right mind would know they will be sued for millions... And for what?
Yeah conor I think made 2 people unable to fight + his own fighter
Haha, well I used to bounce and take people down. Never had the badge, I thought about it but I got a DUI when I was 22. Would be awesome to have a job with a pension at this point... Gonna be working at Walmart when I am 80, if I am 80 that is...Yeah I trained for a couple years, got my kids involved too. I agree grappling with a well matched opponent is a blast but yes it gasses you out quick.
In class we would roll with one person for 3 minutes, switch to another opponent for 3 minuted, for about 30 minutes total. I was literally rolling to my next opponent towards the end lol, I didn't have the strength to walk.
I really enjoy kickboxing too though. I had a punching bag as a kid and was in karate so it just feels natural.
It really helps when you're in law enforcement and you have to take down a perp.
A lot more detail in BJJ probably wouldn't bore you.
Yeah a week is pretty typical around here.
If you don't plan to compete it doesn't have to be a good MMA school just a mutli discipline school with good instructors.
That or just so in his own I am untouchable mindset that stuff doesn't occur to him that way... either way pretty insane stuff.
Or maybe the boxing world won't touch him again because he is too volatile... burned a bridge with UFC now so we shall see what happens for him.
He will still fight for the UFC. Dana said he is done with Connor “for now” he is their biggest cash cow, he will return. And from everything I see regarding Maywether, my conclusion is that he will indeed fight Connor in the Octagon.
Unless Mayweather has previous martial arts and grappling experience that is simply going to be lame... Conor would have to intentionally let him out of round 1 hoping for a rematch if they can make it look good. Mayweather let him wear himself out those first rounds and then went to picking him apart effortlessly. It won't be much different going the other way if they want to leave a 3rd fight as an option. If not and Conor wants to prove a point instead of setting things up for the 3rd fight then Conor takes him out first round...
I agree but I do however see a guy like Canelo having a higher chance in the octagon than conor in boxing. You really only need one punch. That being said an mms fighter is superior
A boxer really needs to have serious knockout power to do well in MMA. Mayweather has to rope a dope to get the job done. He is no knockout artist. Rope a dope only works when you are technically better than the other person and can keep execution at a high level while battered he won't have the benefit here and no knockout power so his chances specifically are pretty low.
I absolutely agree but if there's a sport one punch exist it's in mma not boxing. Mercer beat Sylvia at 48 years old. I just don't see an mma fighter ever winning in boxing but I said even as a kid when everyone thought karate would beat wrestling it just isn't true. Any grappler will be a superior fighter cause 99% they will get a takedown.
So you think if Floyd works on, say 75% takedown/ kick defense and can stuff the takedowns AND turn up the intensity (5 rds vs 12)he wouldn't stand a chance against Connor?
Tyson was plumb scary in his prime. I'm shocked he never broke somebody's neck with one of those blows!
IF they can get the takedown. Or tie them up against a wall and rain in elbows and knees..
What I mean is that people in the ufc always lose at some point. Floyd was what? 49-0 vs professional boxers and gonna lose to a guy from the ufc? Conor was waaaaay bigger than Floyd and landed one punch that didn't move Floyd at all. I just don't see it being as possible or even nearly as possible as a boxer knocking a guy out in mma. I do know for sure that the mma fighter will win most of the times in a street fight. We've seen boxers succeed too but we have never seen a 48 year old guy from the ufc knock out a world champion boxer but we've seen the opposite. Two different sports however
Yeah but hes old now too, you don't start wrestling at 40. And the kicks will be a problem but surely he could be a world class mma fighter had he been training.. that's my belief. He might be the most talented professional fighter ever regardless of sport
I dont Haha.. let Floyd run in to the sunset
Can't stand him
Ate him up.
he won’t get sued for 20 million get real...if that’s what you were implying
No. He cowered and turned his back while Connor attacked and pursued him and the ref also committed all kinds of Bs. Mayweather is a p*ss
I don't like mayweather.
