Justlooking5
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Is there anyone here who has done multiple steroid cycles (i.e., test/deca/dbol/tren etc., not SARMs/prohormones), yet who can show or reference bloodwork indicating that you maintain optimal (5-700+ ng/dl) testosterone levels naturally off all treatment (i.e., >6 months after clomid or any test boosters).
Anyway, the reason I ask is that when I was using gear in the early 2000s, the general idea was that most people recovered normal function with appropriate PCT and time off.
However, I have been off all gear since 2005 (for 12 years now) and my test levels have been between 369 (just measured) and 390 for years unless I was using clomid.
I also recently read a study that said of 15 former AAS users ,13 of the 15 had natural test levels in the lower 20% range...
Anyway, my sense is that the biggest long term side effect of short term steroid use (even with proper PCT), is permanent mild/moderate hypogonadism (meaning, you are producing substantially less test than you likely would be had you not used gear, and less than is healthy or optimal for you, which for most men, < 400 or so likely is IMO).
I'm curious about any counter examples, guys who have maintained optimal levels despite multiple cycles... they seem to be in the minority instead of the majority as we once believed.
Anyway, the reason I ask is that when I was using gear in the early 2000s, the general idea was that most people recovered normal function with appropriate PCT and time off.
However, I have been off all gear since 2005 (for 12 years now) and my test levels have been between 369 (just measured) and 390 for years unless I was using clomid.
I also recently read a study that said of 15 former AAS users ,13 of the 15 had natural test levels in the lower 20% range...
Anyway, my sense is that the biggest long term side effect of short term steroid use (even with proper PCT), is permanent mild/moderate hypogonadism (meaning, you are producing substantially less test than you likely would be had you not used gear, and less than is healthy or optimal for you, which for most men, < 400 or so likely is IMO).
I'm curious about any counter examples, guys who have maintained optimal levels despite multiple cycles... they seem to be in the minority instead of the majority as we once believed.