Probably not related, as it's a recurring problem for me, but I woke up at 3 and couldn't get back to sleep this morning. Still feeling good though.
These are drugs though. Interesting stuff but because this is a "dietary supplement" it has to stay within legal guidelines. This means many of the things you would think of are off limits. Even racetams are off my list as they are not anywhere near a dietary supp.I've been in the research game for many years lol. Everything from the 2c's when they were new to thieno's to flouropiracetam.
Still good to note. It being a recurring thing helps us know if its related or not. The product may be slightly stimulating though so maybe dont take it after 5-6pm.Probably not related, as it's a recurring problem for me, but I woke up at 3 and couldn't get back to sleep this morning. Still feeling good though.
Ahh I got ya. That's awesome bro. Pm me after this log is done so I can talk to you about it more. Things like that always interest meThese are drugs though. Interesting stuff but because this is a "dietary supplement" it has to stay within legal guidelines. This means many of the things you would think of are off limits. Even racetams are off my list as they are not anywhere near a dietary supp.
Instead of using something like a racetam I have chosen a handful of ingredients that each play a specific role. Again I cant say much but there will be alot to talk about when this is done.
I dont doubt you know your noots. I just doubt these would be your first, second or even 10th choice.
Ultimately the real test will be the memory,latency,IQ tests. If you guys feel nothing but these numbers change significantly we have a winner.Today is the first day that I can honestly say that I don't seem to feel anything from his. Could be due to the fact I only got about 4 hours of sleep last night, so we'll have to wait and see what tomorrow brings. How's everyone else doing?
Dude you should see some of the obscure stim and PED lists I have.Ahh I got ya. That's awesome bro. Pm me after this log is done so I can talk to you about it more. Things like that always interest me
Man that's awesome you guys are actually taking your time with developing it right. I'm looking forward to seeing how this goes!Dude you should see some of the obscure stim and PED lists I have.
The nootropic research has just recently become a thing for me. Its so interesting how the brain works. Unfortunately people only look at one thing. Like acetylcholine for example. The problem is if you increase acetylcholine and thats the only thing you do youll likely experience more negative than positive. Because like most bio systems the body seeks homeostasis and each action taken and increase seen has a reaction or increase/decrease of something else. So we have to attack from multiple angles in order to get the results we want without negative sides. With noots some of the sides can be nasty and long lasting. So Ive dont my homework and used a combo of relatively mild ingredients that combined have a strong effect.
For sure. Once this is over Im down
You have piqued my curiosity. I'm always interested in nootropics. I have a few guesses; it'll be fun to see if any of them end up being correct.These are drugs though. Interesting stuff but because this is a "dietary supplement" it has to stay within legal guidelines. This means many of the things you would think of are off limits. Even racetams are off my list as they are not anywhere near a dietary supp.
Instead of using something like a racetam I have chosen a handful of ingredients that each play a specific role. Again I cant say much but there will be alot to talk about when this is done.
I dont doubt you know your noots. I just doubt these would be your first, second or even 10th choice.
I was gonna tag you but I forgot. I knew it would interest you as well.You have piqued my curiosity. I'm always interested in nootropics. I have a few guesses; it'll be fun to see if any of them end up being correct.
Lack of sleep was most likely responsible for this. Today was back to the sense of "awareness" that I've been experiencing so far. It's interesting to note that my thoughts seem to be more "fluid" than usual.Today is the first day that I can honestly say that I don't seem to feel anything from his. Could be due to the fact I only got about 4 hours of sleep last night, so we'll have to wait and see what tomorrow brings. How's everyone else doing?
I personally haven't noticed any difference. Having said that, I have worked with the public for the last 25 years and can pretty much fake interest and politeness at will, which irritates my wife to no end.How has this product been for sociability? I know that's not what it's geared towards, but some noots make me a little anti-social and not want to engage in conversations. Any positive or negative to not on this so far from the testers?
No negatives. Possibly some positive.How has this product been for sociability? I know that's not what it's geared towards, but some noots make me a little anti-social and not want to engage in conversations. Any positive or negative to not on this so far from the testers?
It makes me more sociable, I'm social smoker but it makes me more anti social around certain people ironically, this nootropic makes me more likely to want to talk.How has this product been for sociability? I know that's not what it's geared towards, but some noots make me a little anti-social and not want to engage in conversations. Any positive or negative to not on this so far from the testers?
I see how you are. So that's why your always so polite to me lol.I personally haven't noticed any difference. Having said that, I have worked with the public for the last 25 years and can pretty much fake interest and politeness at will, which irritates my wife to no end.
You're new haircut looks amazing, and it looks like your d1ck got bigger tooI see how you are. So that's why your always so polite to me lol.
LmfaoYou're new haircut looks amazing, and it looks like your d1ck got bigger too
Went ahead and took my tests this evening.
MemTrax test - 92% correct .865 seconds Mean Reaction Time
Human Benchmark tests - 1957 points in Visual Memory / 41 on Verbal Memory / Reaction Time of 325.0ms / 11 on Number Memory
Psychology Today Memory Test - 81
IQ Test - 105
FYI, The IQ test seemed to give me the most issues. It definitely wasn't what I was anticipating it to be. And is it wrong that there is a certain competitive part of me that wants to take it again just to smash my previous scores? And another smart*ss derailer part of me that just wants to make a Forrest Gump joke right now. (Sorry, but there it is)
Two weeks later; test results:Welp....that made me feel not so smart...
Human Benchmark
Number memory: 10 digits, 69%
Reaction Time: 239 ms
Verbal Memory: 22 points
Visual Memory: level 7, score 2698
MemTrax: 90%, mean reaction time 0.827 seconds
Psychology Today: 74
Iqtest: 101
I think I'm in the wrong forum...I thought we were going to be testing each other's mammories!
Ill get to work on it and give you an ETA asap.When can we throw money at you for a bottle of these magic pills?
After two weeks on mystery BLR noot at 1 cap bid:Pre "Treatment" Test Results:
1. Human Benchmark Tests
a. Number Memory: Level 9 (50%)
b. Reaction Time: Avg - 358 ms (19%)
c. Verbal Memory: 44 points (70%)
d. Visual Memory: Level 8, 8799 points (41%)
2. Mem Trax Test: 92% correct - 0.856 mean reaction time
3. Psychology Today Memory Test: 73
4. General IQ Test: 108 -> finished with approximately 9 minutes left (out of 40).
*Total Time elapsed: 57 minutes (11:15 AM to 12:12 PM)
*Started testing 30 minutes after eating my usual breakfast of 4 eggs, 1oz pepperjack, and 1 8oz cup of coffee (~100mg of caffeine).
*No other supplements beforehand.
This is insane. 18 point increase in IQ!!!!!! Thats a 17% increase in IQ. Pretty impressive.After two weeks on mystery BLR noot at 1 cap bid:
1. Human Benchmark Tests:
a. Number Memory: Level 10 (69%); +1 Level
b. Reaction Time: Avg of 337 ms (24%); Improvement of 21 ms
c. Verbal Memory: 129 points (98%); improvement of 85 points....
d. Visual Memory: Level 10, Score of 12,873 (59%); +2 levels, 4074 points
2. Memtrax: 96% correct, 0.668 second rxn time; +4% and 0.188 seconds
3. Psychology Today Subjective Memory Questionnaire: Score of 79, 6 point improvement
4. General IQ Test: 126; +18 points -> I forgot to look at how much time was left when I completed it. But, I would guess it was in the 10-15 minute range.
Start Time: 1115 AM (same time of day) End Time: 1207PM Total Time Elapsed: 52 minutes 5 minutes faster than pre tests, and this was even with a 2-3 minute interruption from my dad in the middle of the IQ test
*This was 3 hours post breakfast of 4 eggs, 1oz cheddar, 2oz green peppers + 1 cup of coffee (~100mg caffeine).
*No other supplements today.
There was a substantial improvement in both my Human Benchmark Verbal Memory Score (44 points to 126 points) as well as the General IQ Test (108 to 126). I could absolutely tell the difference in the Verbal Memory test. It was seriously like the moment the word popped up I knew I had seen it before. The 3 times that I missed were with words that I thought I had seen which I hadn't. The IQ score, I really have no idea lol. I guess I was able to notice those patterns better or was able to form a better educated guess.
Well I can say I am interested to see how the test results look after a few days at 3 caps.If I'm understanding you correctly, then this is the end of the testing get phase? Is there anything else we need to do to continue testing this? If not, I may begin dosing 3 per day on work days, even though you recommend not doing so, and then retest on my own, even though you recommend not doing so. I'm still very much interested in this type of product, and am curious about the ingredients.
When do you feel this will be ready for release?
LMAO... Good one!You're new haircut looks amazing, and it looks like your d1ck got bigger too
let me know how this turns out? I will take the feed back from someone in the old Fu ckers club?The IQ test was the one with the most surprising change for me as well. Even though my score wasn't amazingly higher, it certainly went faster and the patterns were more apparent as I went.
Good feedback bro!Two weeks later; test results:
Human Benchmark
Number memory: 10 digits, 69%
Reaction Time: 205 ms
Verbal Memory: 46 points!
Visual Memory: level 7,
score 6810!
MemTrax: 98%, mean reaction time 0.768 seconds!
Psychology Today: 90
-though I honestly answered these subjective questions both times, the increased score here is likely reflective of an increased confidence in my memory.
Iqtest: 110
Holy $h!t. Was not expecting such significant increases in test scores. While it could be argued that taking the test a second time would show an increase in and of itself, I think the nature of the tests and the two week time frame minimizes this as a complicating factor.
Overall, I'm very pleased with this as a nootropic. It's extremely subtle, but there is a noticeable increase in short term memory and mood, lessened social anxiety, and for me in particular: increased verbal recall (less conversational brain farts for sure).
Very interested to see what exactly it is I've been taking...and what the final product and price point look like.
Thank you brundel for the great opportunity and for making me slightly less stupid!
Keep up the awesome work!
10% increase in iq is very good. This is enough to make a significant difference in your daily cognitive function.The IQ test was the one with the most surprising change for me as well. Even though my score wasn't amazingly higher, it certainly went faster and the patterns were more apparent as I went.
Tomorrow is day 14 buuuuut I'll do the tests after physical therapy ! Is it possible to add another ingredient that won't put a huge dent in the pricing?Well I can say I am interested to see how the test results look after a few days at 3 caps.
Ive talked to the guys who perform our extractions and source my raws for me and they are telling me they can ship in a couple of days. I just want to wait till all the results are in. Then Ill order raws. I also need to gauge what initial demand is going to be like so I know how much to order.
Could be ready for release in 30 days.
I think the product is well rounded.Tomorrow is day 14 buuuuut I'll do the tests after physical therapy ! Is it possible to add another ingredient that won't put a huge dent in the pricing?
Nothing in particular, I wasn't sure if you have any other ingredients in mind if these were to fall short. It definitely will be a seller with whatever is in it now, if something can be added with a small dent in the pricing IMO it can only benefit, nothing needs to be added though.I think the product is well rounded.
What ingredient are you thinking of?
Currently we have a product that works, little or no sides and is all natural.
Human Benchmark-Forgot to post here too lol
Human Benchmark-
Number Memory-You scored 7. You're currently in the top 18 percentile for this test!
Reaction Time-You scored 309.0. You're currently in the top 32 percentile for this test!
Verbal Memory-You're currently in the top 17 percentile for this test!
Visual Memory-You scored 5631. You're currently in the top 21 percentile for this test!
Metrax- Mean Reaction Time: 0.979 seconds
Psychology Today- I got 50
IQ Test- 100 IQ(this was so hard in the middle)
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