But still an increase. Pretty significant when you consider the only thing you did was take a pill for 14 days.
I was thinking the same thing but with the number memory the percentage went up and my score did too. The benchmark tests are weird, but I see the IQ test as the true test within the 4 tests. Maybe brundel can shed some light on this.I hope you dont take this as if im insulting you in anyway, but the %s on the Bench marks is the percentile you are in. Like you said you messed up on the verbal memory 1st go around and were at 17%. This time you did better and were at 48%. It isnt the top "x" percent, but the percent you are above. See what I mean?
I agree, but i will be giving it another try tomorrow since I am sleep deprived and hungry. I do feel a huge difference psychologically the 2nd round with the testing but I don't think it was the best time to do it, I was just curious to see how I did.But still an increase. Pretty significant when you consider the only thing you did was take a pill for 14 days.
Exactly what i mean: the higher your score, the higher number of people you will "beat", and therefore the higher your percentage.I was thinking the same thing but with the number memory the percentage went up and my score did too. The benchmark tests are weird, but I see the IQ test as the true test within the 4 tests. Maybe brundel can shed some light on this.
Yea I'm extremely excited about my numbers going up, I wonder how this product would be if ran year around lol. I'm pretty sure lack of food and sleep is effecting me, I could barely type correctly lol.Honestly Im not 100% certain how they score the tests etc. I just chose a handful of tests that would give us some quantifiable data for testing purposes.
Im not surprised CJnators numbers didnt go up as much as the others. Id be willing to bet anything that this is because he did not get a good night sleep and is malnurished and likely also dehydrated. All of the things that negatively impact brain function The brain needs glucose and water to function properly and sleep is crucial. Ill bet if he retests after a good night sleep and some breakfast the test scores will go up significantly.
Ultimately the IQ test is a good overall gauge but I wanted to have multiple angles so we can see its not just you did better on one test. No...you did better on IQ, verbal, visual memory, reaction times. Placebo cant possibly make all of these numbers go up so significantly. Its just not possible.
Either way CJNator you did well and your numbers did improve significantly. Im super curious to see if its different after some rest and food.
Im a nightmare if I dont eat or sleep.
Yea I got a 5 last if I recall correctly, I'll see how it is tomorrow. I do recall being in the average percentile for the Metrix testing.Exactly what i mean: the higher your score, the higher number of people you will "beat", and therefore the higher your percentage.
Eg: you probably got less than a 25 on the verbal mem test the first time around and subsequently got a lower corresponding percentage.
Psychologically the puzzles made sense in my mind quickly. That really it.Did you notice any difference while taking the IQ test?
Human Benchmark-Human Benchmark-
Number Memory- You scored 8. You're currently in the top 31 percentile for this test!
Reaction Time- You scored 306.0. You're currently in the top 33 percentile for this test!
Verbal Memory- You scored 25. You're currently in the top 48 percentile for this test(I totally messed this up the first time around)
Visual Memory- You scored 6097. You're currently in the top 24 percentile for this test!
Metrax- Mean Reaction Time: 0.721 seconds 96% correct (not sure how i missed the percentage of correct matching this first time)
Psychology Today- 79
IQ Test- 104
Not bad at all, especally with 4 hours of sleep plus im hungry as **** right now lol i most likely improved a lot more then these numbers in the state im in now.
If anyone wants to send me your leftover pills from the trial, let me know.brundel can we talk yet?
Lol I'm curious
We can but Im not going to publicly discuss the ingredients yet. For obvious reasons.brundel can we talk yet?
Lol I'm curious
Damn bro. Good job. I'm looking forward to seeing what this is.Against the advice of brundel, I have spent the last 12 days taking three doses per day. My first day at the increased dose I felt like my mind was "racing" quite a bit. Not panicked, but I could feel thoughts racing and seemed to have a hard time focusing. Definitely a little uncomfortable, but not overly concerning. That was the only day that I had any issues, and it certainly could have been purely coincidental. I'm not sure that the increased dosage had anything to do with the increase on the tests, or if it's an accumulative response to something in the pills. I've enjoyed taking this, and will continue taking it once it becomes available for purchase. The results I've experienced could certainly be considered anecdotal by some, but I think the combination of ingredients is probably spot on. Now we just need to be able to purchase this!
Results from initial test;
MemTrax test - 92% correct .865 Mean Reaction Time
Human Benchmark tests
1957 points in Visual Memory
41 on Verbal Memory
Reaction Time of 325.0ms
11 on Number Memory
Psychology Today Memory Test - 81
IQ Test - 105
Results from second test;
Test results 11/08
MemTrax test - 96% .737 Mean Reaction Time
Human Benchmark Tests
Visual Memory- 6687
Verbal Memory - 47
Reaction Time - 321.0 ms
Number Memory - 10 digits
Psychology Today Memory Test - 84
IQ Test - 115
Results from 11/21
MemTrax Test 96% .728 Mean Reaction Time
Human Benchmark Tests
Visual Memory - 7243
Verbal Memory - 52
Reaction Time - 304.0 ms
Number Memory - 10 digits
Psychology Today Memory Test - 97
IQ Test - 127
My Dad had Alzheimer's, so it's something I've studied, trying to see if there is any way it can be avoided.SFreed. I'm impressed that I know someone so smart. Looks impressive. My old ass will have to try this when it hits the market. brundel looks like you have another impressive supp coming. Man I'm going to have to get a weekend job to be able to afford all your products!
Sorry to hear that, I had a good buddy growing up who's mom had it. it is very hard and depressing for the family and friends. to see this slowly change a person that was so kind and loving. it broke my heart!My Dad had Alzheimer's, so it's something I've studied, trying to see if there is any way it can be avoided.
Didnt want to be the one to ask, but i was wondering this too.Was there something said about a second bottle if we enjoyed it?
I don't want to be greedy, buuuuttttt....I did like the first!I have a multi compound nootropic supp we need to run some testing on.
5 ingredients.
Most we well known. ONe is relatively unknown but well tested in humans. None are known to have negative side effects that would be of concern.
There are no racetams or chemical nootropic drugs in there. 100% plant based or naturally present.
I cannot disclose the ingredients as this may effect the trial.
I expect it to be slightly stimulating. there is 50mg caffeine in each cap as well as another slightly stimulating ingredient. 2caps daily is the expected dose.
I would like to have 4 serious testers who can commit to running a trial for us.
We need you to commit to taking the product for the duration= 30 days.
We need you to take some online memory and cognitive function tests before taking the product and while taking the product. These actual test results can remain private if you like.
The goal, of course, is to show that taking the product increases memory and learning and cognitive function as a whole.
500+ posts
not blacklisted
not a rep for a direct competitor.
Youll get=
Free bottle of the new product.
To be part of a public trial which contributes to our community and the scientific community.
A second bottle if you like the first.
The product is ready to ship and we can begin as soon as we have 4 testers.
Ill take this to the public forum if I have too.
Please reply below and let us know you are interested!
I think I love you.Hey men
I did in fact offer a second bottle. So if you are interested I can send another when the raws arrive. Might have to pm me once or twice to remind me. I expect we will have raws within 14 days or less.
im in on this, even if I have to pay for it-Hey men
I did in fact offer a second bottle. So if you are interested I can send another when the raws arrive. Might have to pm me once or twice to remind me. I expect we will have raws within 14 days or less.
I think I love you.
Its great just to know how excited people are to get more of this.im in on this, even if I have to pay for it-
Awesome, can't wait to try a dose and a half !Its great just to know how excited people are to get more of this.
Testers will get another free bottle
It wont be long now. The raw materials have been ordered. This time of year things are MUCH slower with regards to shipping, especially from overseas so.....it might be a couple weeks but it could be alot shorter like any day now. I would think before the new year for certain..so when can we access this as a product? Hmmm? :}
Results from today, after 3 weeks without taking brundel's nootropic. I can tell you that my stress level has been higher than normal, which may have affected my scores.Against the advice of brundel, I have spent the last 12 days taking three doses per day. My first day at the increased dose I felt like my mind was "racing" quite a bit. Not panicked, but I could feel thoughts racing and seemed to have a hard time focusing. Definitely a little uncomfortable, but not overly concerning. That was the only day that I had any issues, and it certainly could have been purely coincidental. I'm not sure that the increased dosage had anything to do with the increase on the tests, or if it's an accumulative response to something in the pills. I've enjoyed taking this, and will continue taking it once it becomes available for purchase. The results I've experienced could certainly be considered anecdotal by some, but I think the combination of ingredients is probably spot on. Now we just need to be able to purchase this!
Results from initial test;
MemTrax test - 92% correct .865 Mean Reaction Time
Human Benchmark tests
1957 points in Visual Memory
41 on Verbal Memory
Reaction Time of 325.0ms
11 on Number Memory
Psychology Today Memory Test - 81
IQ Test - 105
Results from second test;
Test results 11/08
MemTrax test - 96% .737 Mean Reaction Time
Human Benchmark Tests
Visual Memory- 6687
Verbal Memory - 47
Reaction Time - 321.0 ms
Number Memory - 10 digits
Psychology Today Memory Test - 84
IQ Test - 115
Results from 11/21
MemTrax Test 96% .728 Mean Reaction Time
Human Benchmark Tests
Visual Memory - 7243
Verbal Memory - 52
Reaction Time - 304.0 ms
Number Memory - 10 digits
Psychology Today Memory Test - 97
IQ Test - 127
ikr?? This is total bullshyt.Back to being dumb, huh? LOL
J/k had to fck with ya!
<3 <3. Now that's what im talkin aboutI realize that this product isnt a product you will want to cycle. Its effects are strong and effect everything from mood to social interaction to cognitive function. People will want to stay on it long term. So, Im going to do my best to keep the price reasonable.
SFreed
The downside of pretty much anything that improves performance is stopping sucks.
Plus you had about a 20% increase in IQ which is enough to make significant changes in your life. It really is.
I still have a small amount of the raws from the first run I think. Ill try to make another short batch for you guys this week.
All of you have a free bottle coming anyways!
I realize that this product isnt a product you will want to cycle. Its effects are strong and effect everything from mood to social interaction to cognitive function. People will want to stay on it long term. So, Im going to do my best to keep the price reasonable.
I also want to mention we will begin testing a new anabolic soon. This stuff looks more promising than anything I have ever seen.
If all goes well this stuff will likely be better than FD2 which is saying something.
The good news is it also has completely different actions so itll stack well with fd2.
I think we should be ready to begin testing by the first of JAN.
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