Mesomorph finally getting dethroned? Extreme dust!

[cobri66]

I'd look into Cannibal Riot as well. I have Meso, Dust Extreme, and Riot and like Riot the best so far. It's like Goldie Locks. Meso doesn't get me going that much. Dust Extreme is a bit too much. But Riot is just right. I am very very stim tolerant. I say DE is too much because it seems to get my HR and BP up way more than Riot, which makes sense due to the dosing. If I am simply trying to max on some lifts, DE is the way to go. But if I'm doing higher reps or metcons, there is no way I touch DE. It's just counterproductive. So far Riot has given me great energy/focus and no crash. I have unicorn blood and although it's a stupid name for a flavor, it's good. Better than DE (pineapple mango).

Don't think I could use Riot..Meso gets me so jacked up, I can't imagine more stims

 

[BRUstrong]

Don't think I could use Riot..Meso gets me so jacked up, I can't imagine more stims

Don't have time to look up labels right now, but I'm pretty sure Riot has less caffeine and less DMAA than Meso. Riot does also contain DMHA, which for me, works nicely with the lower dose of DMAA for good, clean energy.

 

[carguy123]

Don't have time to look up labels right now, but I'm pretty sure Riot has less caffeine and less DMAA than Meso. Riot does also contain DMHA, which for me, works nicely with the lower dose of DMAA for good, clean energy.

Meso is 65mg DMAA and like 300 mg caffeine. Riot is 50mg DMAA, 50 mg DMHA, and 300mg of caffeine.

 

[BRUstrong]

Meso is 65mg DMAA and like 300 mg caffeine. Riot is 50mg DMAA, 50 mg DMHA, and 300mg of caffeine.

Thanks. Yea, caffeine wise I must have been thinking about the new SP250.

 

[carguy123]

Thanks. Yea, caffeine wise I must have been thinking about the new SP250.

Yeah SP250 is like 250mg if I remember correctly. Its hard to keep them all straight lol. I just glad we are getting open labels for stims finally

 

[BigGame84]

So I decided to give Dust Extreme another try. If you recall, I enjoyed it a lot, but had issues with clumping and hardness. Well my Dust Extreme came in yesterday and it's WAY better. The consistency is much more fine and powder like. I also noticed the scooper is silver, not red like before. I'm wondering if BSL made some improvements to the powder? Anyways, glad I gave it a second try. For anybody wondering, I ordered from Strong Supplement.

 

[Robert5891]

Yeah SP250 is like 250mg if I remember correctly. Its hard to keep them all straight lol. I just glad we are getting open labels for stims finally

Correct. the new SuperPump 250 is 250mg of caffeine and 70mg of dmaa....a perfect blend!

 

[janson_kaniaz]

So I decided to give Dust Extreme another try. If you recall, I enjoyed it a lot, but had issues with clumping and hardness. Well my Dust Extreme came in yesterday and it's WAY better. The consistency is much more fine and powder like. I also noticed the scooper is silver, not red like before. I'm wondering if BSL made some improvements to the powder? Anyways, glad I gave it a second try. For anybody wondering, I ordered from Strong Supplement.

Good to know they have improved on their QC. Will buy them again but it's gonna be a while since i bought two tubs previously and eager to give SP250 a try.

 

[paul56778]

My tub of Dust Extreme and Riot arrived last week, i have used Riot once and Dust twice, all for leg workouts which is what i save DMAA for, i find both on par but slightly stronger than mesomorph and i get a great focused and zoned feeling from dust, also i have been getting very dizzy and light headed between sets of machine & hack squats which is new almost like i am going to faint.

 

[Zoomie33240]

My tub of Dust Extreme and Riot arrived last week, i have used Riot once and Dust twice, all for leg workouts which is what i save DMAA for, i find both on par but slightly stronger than mesomorph and i get a great focused and zoned feeling from dust, also i have been getting very dizzy and light headed between sets of machine & hack squats which is new almost like i am going to faint.

I can go harder on DMAA and have had similar issues before. Leg day will play with your BP alot because of all of the pressure that it puts on your entire body. BP fluctuations happen alot for me on leg day. Especially if I'm going really hard on some good stimulants and really push my muscular endurance.

Just be careful between sets and let your blood pressure recover between sets. It would suck to pass out at the gym. Hopefully it isn't the actual product that is effecting you adversely.

 

[janson_kaniaz]

Will only buy Dust Ext if there's a good deal. Meanwhile, looking forward to try SP250...

 

[danielmoo]

Will only buy Dust Ext if there's a good deal. Meanwhile, looking forward to try SP250...

Glad to hear that.. it's going to be amazing.

 

[kelvarnsen]

BSL just had a BOGO deal a few days ago on Dust Extreme

 

[Zoomie33240]

I'll go ahead and add to this thread. Just tried Dust Extreme. I loved mesomorph and Dust Extreme is no different. Dust does provide more focus and it feels slightly more thermogenic.

It's a sick (in a good way) product. Can't go wrong with meso or dust. Also, the flavor isn't great but it's not bad at all (sour gummy bear) and the powder was extremely high quality.

 

[Rob1882]

Dat Tutti Fruitti

Pineapple Mango <3

I'll go ahead and add to this thread. Just tried Dust Extreme. I loved mesomorph and Dust Extreme is no different. Dust does provide more focus and it feels slightly more thermogenic.

It's a sick (in a good way) product. Can't go wrong with meso or dust. Also, the flavor isn't great but it's not bad at all (sour gummy bear) and the powder was extremely high quality.

Still not had the sour gummy bear but the pineapple mango is delicious agree with the comments on more focus both semi similar from just a pure energy standpoint but this shouldn't be ground breaking given 1,3 IMO is not as strong on energy as caffeine/ephedrine or y but it does enhance and provide some nice focus.

 

[Robert5891]

Dat Tutti Fruitti

Pineapple Mango <3



Still not had the sour gummy bear but the pineapple mango is delicious agree with the comments on more focus both semi similar from just a pure energy standpoint but this shouldn't be ground breaking given 1,3 IMO is not as strong on energy as caffeine/ephedrine or y but it does enhance and provide some nice focus.

what'd you think of the tutti frutti flavor rob?

 

[Rob1882]

what'd you think of the tutti frutti flavor rob?

It does smell and taste very similar to the bubblegum I like it

 

[danielmoo]

SP250 is out and ready to party. :biggthumpup:

 

[BigGame84]

SP250 is out and ready to party. :biggthumpup:

Want to try the cotton candy

 

[Zoomie33240]

SP250 is out and ready to party. :biggthumpup:

Sweet, any samples floating around? =p

 

[danielmoo]

Want to try the cotton candy

Same here!

Sweet, any samples floating around? =p

Not that I know of at the moment.. sorry brother.

 

[Zoomie33240]

Same here!


Not that I know of at the moment.. sorry brother.

No big deal at all. Looks like good stuff

 

[Darkhorse192]

My buddy who owns and operates a stellar supp shop, and has never failed me with a recommendation suggested that 1/2 Dust Extreme + 1/2 Dust V2 > Dust Extreme full serving on its own. I have not had the ability to try the combo yet, but curious if anyone else had heard something similar or has tried it that way?

 

[BigGame84]

My buddy who owns and operates a stellar supp shop, and has never failed me with a recommendation suggested that 1/2 Dust Extreme + 1/2 Dust V2 > Dust Extreme full serving on its own. I have not had the ability to try the combo yet, but curious if anyone else had heard something similar or has tried it that way?

I don't have Dust V2 but I do have the V1 with Amp Citrate. Maybe I could try that with Extreme.

 

[Zoomie33240]

I don't have Dust V2 but I do have the V1 with Amp Citrate. Maybe I could try that with Extreme.

I like AMP but I always had a crash on it. I don't get that with DMAA but the combo could be interesting ( at lower dosages of course).

Crazier combos have been tried before so I don't believe it would be an issue. However, everything is at one's own risk =)

 

[paul56778]

has anyone tried 1/2 serving of meso with 1/2 dust extreme

or mixing chaos and pain riot with dust or meso at 1/2 serving each, i will try one of these combos on my next friday leg session to see how it compares to using 1 of the products at full serving solo

 

[bashar]

I have an original jar of dvst8, it tastes like crap, so been mixing it with dust extreem and riot, insane results, extreem energy and good workouts (1:30 to 2 hours)...caution: do not try this if you have other things to do in your life, I couldn't walk for two days after doing legs with this combo...

has anyone tried 1/2 serving of meso with 1/2 dust extreme

or mixing chaos and pain riot with dust or meso at 1/2 serving each, i will try one of these combos on my next friday leg session to see how it compares to using 1 of the products at full serving solo

 

[Pipes]

many props to the dmaa lovers here, also another one for mesomorph being king.. but I will give dust extreme its fair due. this may be a rival if not better. we will see.

 

[BRUstrong]

many props to the dmaa lovers here, also another one for mesomorph being king.. but I will give dust extreme its fair due. this may be a rival if not better. we will see.

IMHO, Dust Extreme is better. Focus is just spot on for me. On my second tub and still loving it

 

[BigGame84]

Chaos and Pain is taking the DMAA out of Riot and adding 50mg more of DMHA.

 

[paul56778]

For EU market.

 

[bashar]

There is a new kid in town, giant Riot (how original), 300 mg caffeine with 185mg DMHA, that should be fun.

 

[rpm57]

Just finished a bottle of Mesomorph. Loved it.
Just ordered a bottle of Dust EX.

 

[danielmoo]

Lots and lots of good reviews coming in for SP250. :biggthumpup:

 

[Alpha1a]

Lots and lots of good reviews coming in for SP250. :biggthumpup:

I'll be putting one up this weekend hopefully ! Lol I'll try it without pj and then with it !

 

[carguy123]

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There is a new kid in town, giant Riot (how original), 300 mg caffeine with 185mg DMHA, that should be fun.

The way this label is formatted is driving me nuts, hopefully they will fix the order of ingredients to be in the correct order.

Also seems like a big dose of DMHA, no?

 

[bashar]

So guys, how does sp250 compare to the rest here? I secretly have a preworkout fetish...

 

[Rob1882]

The way this label is formatted is driving me nuts, hopefully they will fix the order of ingredients to be in the correct order.

Also seems like a big dose of DMHA, no?

Nope DMHA is fairly weak ( In comparison to 1,3-Dim and AMP Cit ) and 185-400mg is more appropriate than some other products we have seen ( using 50mg for example ) with it this goes similar for AMP Cit and is why so many have mentioned issues with AMP Cit which is to say products using often are using FAR to little of it. Price plow had compared it to a range( Compareable to like 30mg-50mg of 1,3 ) at up to 150mg of DMHA however I believe it to be weaker than their write up suggests and would say they are being a bit generous.



DMHA is weaker than AMP Cit

 

[alowery11]

Strong rotation. What am I missing??!?

 

[alowery11]

Current pre rotation all with DMAA..

Dust E, Riot, Meso & the new S Pump. Love em all, but curious if I'm missing anything? Anything on the market worth adding to this strong stim rotation? I'm open to trying any good recs!

 

[Rob1882]

Current pre rotation all with DMAA..

Dust E, Riot, Meso & the new S Pump. Love em all, but curious if I'm missing anything? Anything on the market worth adding to this strong stim rotation? I'm open to trying any good recs!

Metabolic Nutrition E.S.P is very strong and worth trying its non 1,3 tho - worth rotating in to me
Centurion Labz God of Rage and God of War RED - Rage uses 1,3 and RED uses AMP Cit both very well dosed tho and great pre workouts

I been hearing a lot of positive things about Condemned Labz pre "Convict" I have not had it myself tho

 

[Alpha1a]

So guys, how does sp250 compare to the rest here? I secretly have a preworkout fetish...

Gladly let you know on Friday, surprisingly I just recently tried mesomorph (I too have a kink for preworkout lol) and I was not impressed , I was expecting something great but in my opinion dust extreme would be my go to , but loved Plasmajet so much that I ordered a box of pj with sp250 should be here Friday!

 

[Alpha1a]

Metabolic Nutrition E.S.P is very strong and worth trying its non 1,3 tho - worth rotating in to me
Centurion Labz God of Rage and God of War RED - Rage uses 1,3 and RED uses AMP Cit both very well dosed tho and great pre workouts

I been hearing a lot of positive things about Condemned Labz pre "Convict" I have not had it myself tho

I loved ESP it was my partners go to pre, and my favorite, until I got a tub and at the end a big scoop and a half wouldn't do much but rotating it might be a good idea

 

[bashar]

This Mesomorph has some developed some black spots, should I throw it away or not?!

 

[paul56778]

This Mesomorph has some developed some black spots, should I throw it away or not?!View attachment 140231View attachment 140232

My pineapple one had the same thing

 

[BigGame84]

Intrigued by American Metabolix Warpath. Doesn't have 1,3 in it but supplement panel looks impressive. I've also read some good reviews on it also.

 

[Robert5891]

I think it may just be moisture getting into the powder causing it to clump.

How long have you had it open and is it very humid where you live?

 

[bashar]

I never opened this one. It's a bit humid here, plus my storage area was next to the oven anyhow, I needed a good excuse to order sp250

 

[carguy123]

I think it may just be moisture getting into the powder causing it to clump.

How long have you had it open and is it very humid where you live?

Judging by the picture looks like it is still sealed. Appears to still have the plastic band around the lid still

Edit...just saw Bashar's response...

 

[Darkhorse192]

Intrigued by American Metabolix Warpath. Doesn't have 1,3 in it but supplement panel looks impressive. I've also read some good reviews on it also.

absolutely awesome pre workout man, i cant guarantee it will be number one on your list, but I can guarantee you wont be disappointed in it. I ended wup with this actually a while back, went into my buddys shop to grab some dust extreme, and he told me he was kind of disappointed in it, and he told me warpath always got him going . I was hesitant that it could be better because as you saud lacked 1,3, but he was spot on. I love this pre. Everything (focus, energy, intensity, all kind of hit at once, and synergize so you just want to crush it but not in like an unbridled way like with 1,3 where sometimes i feel like it can almost be too much, or you get distracted, or jittery.