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[jdg76]

DAMNIT !!! Woke up this morning around 5:30 nausoues , dizzy and sweating. Went back to sleep and woke up around 9:30 the same way. First day off in over a week and wake up sick!!!
I have slept all day on and off, that is all I have wanted to do was sleep. It's been bad enough all I have ate is a PB@J sandwhich and a banana.....



I have read a few times guys using Nolva on cycle to help calm gyno affects. I hate using letro and have some Nolva on hand so I am going to give it a shot for a few weeks at least and see what happens. Going to stay on the ORAL AI plus run 20mg nolva a day.

 

[jdg76]

Not sure what i had but I felt 100% better today??? So back at the gym finally!!


Hit heavy legs today.


Waited on the squat rack for awhile so I did calves first.

Seated calf raises-
45 1 x 20
90 1 x 15
135 3 x 15

Seated leg press machine- SINGLE LEG
140 3 x 15 each leg

Squats -
225 x 8
275 x 5
315 x 5
365 x 5 ~~ Belt
405 x 5 ~~ Belt and Knee wraps

Straight leg dead lift- 1 minute rest
185 5 x 8

Pretty short and sweet. Since I had under 1000 cals yesterday I figured I shouldn't push it to hard today. And although it wasn't a PR the 405 felt really good. I am positive I could of went up but played it smart and stopped there.

Got most of the week off and although I have a lot to do, I will hit the gym hard and make sure I get some extra cals in

 

[KilaCali]

DAMNIT !!! Woke up this morning around 5:30 nausoues , dizzy and sweating. Went back to sleep and woke up around 9:30 the same way. First day off in over a week and wake up sick!!!
I have slept all day on and off, that is all I have wanted to do was sleep. It's been bad enough all I have ate is a PB@J sandwhich and a banana.....



I have read a few times guys using Nolva on cycle to help calm gyno affects. I hate using letro and have some Nolva on hand so I am going to give it a shot for a few weeks at least and see what happens. Going to stay on the ORAL AI plus run 20mg nolva a day.

damn bro! that sucks, very sorry to hear that!! and nolva worked great for me on tren when I had some gyno issues, but I ended up having to toss in the letro at 1mg EOD and that was about the sweet spot where I didn't lose toomuch ya know? but when it was in bad form and I was running the 2.5mg daily after about 3 weeks I felt it stealing my gains! I hated that, never again will I allow it to get out of control like that! I got screwed though cause the exemestane I was using was bunk so I was trusting in that and it just kept getting worse...

 

[brundel]

damn bro! that sucks, very sorry to hear that!! and nolva worked great for me on tren when I had some gyno issues, but I ended up having to toss in the letro at 1mg EOD and that was about the sweet spot where I didn't lose toomuch ya know? but when it was in bad form and I was running the 2.5mg daily after about 3 weeks I felt it stealing my gains! I hated that, never again will I allow it to get out of control like that! I got screwed though cause the exemestane I was using was bunk so I was trusting in that and it just kept getting worse...

with tren prolactin is the culprit so aromasin or letro wont stop it. Ive also heard that nolva can make prolactin sides worse. I believe there was a study to support this but i dont want to look for it on my phone.
For tren, or anything derived from nandrolone you want cabergoline, prami or prolactrone. Many times both an ai and hyperprolactinemia med must be co administered in order to prevent sides.

 

[jdg76]

damn bro! that sucks, very sorry to hear that!! and nolva worked great for me on tren when I had some gyno issues, but I ended up having to toss in the letro at 1mg EOD and that was about the sweet spot where I didn't lose toomuch ya know? but when it was in bad form and I was running the 2.5mg daily after about 3 weeks I felt it stealing my gains! I hated that, never again will I allow it to get out of control like that! I got screwed though cause the exemestane I was using was bunk so I was trusting in that and it just kept getting worse...

I wouldn't think the nolva would work that well but last night I noticed my nip being tight with no puffiness. The same this morning and very little tenderness. Sucks though because this is pharma grade and I can't get any more right now. I could but will need it by the end of the week so I am going to have to go RC :-/ I am dosing it at 20mg/day. I'll continue for another week and then taper down to 10mg and then come off and just run the ORAL AI again.

I hate it because the ORAL was doing very well until I came off of it for a bit now I am having to get it back under control again.

 

[brundel]

RC is always sketchy. You just never know what your getting.
Real Nolva is amazing but....it doesnt lower estrogen levels so you will be back to square one when you stop. For sure dont stop the AI so when you stop the nolva aromatase will be managed. Hopefully the oral will have some time to drop levels down enough.

 

[jdg76]

RC is always sketchy. You just never know what your getting.
Real Nolva is amazing but....it doesnt lower estrogen levels so you will be back to square one when you stop. For sure dont stop the AI so when you stop the nolva aromatase will be managed. Hopefully the oral will have some time to drop levels down enough.

Yes I plan on slowly tapering off the Nolva when I do. Bad part is I don't know how long I will be on it while on the ORAL so it will be hard to judge much.

 

[jdg76]

It was chest and arms hyper day at the gym today but I changed it up a little. Added in a few extra sets, negatives, short rest etc.

Flat BB bench-
225 x 10
245 x 10
265 x 8
275 x 6
225 x 8

Incline DB bench- my front delts were really tight by now and it was hard to do these
30 sec rest periods
80's 3 sets 8,8,6

Standing cable flys- mid height cables 30 sec rest
40 4 sets 8

Ez bar preacher curl-
75 x 10
85 x 8
95 x 6
75 x 8

DB concentration curl-
30 3 sets 10,9,9

Spider Curls-
55 2 sets 10

Seated tricep extension with cambered-
75 5 sets 12

Cable Pressdown with rope attachment-
110 3 sets of 12

Reverse grip single arm pushdown-
20 2 sets 25


ROLLIN' SWOLLEN TODAY HAHA!!

Decided I would tan after my workout getting ready for pool season and had a hard time getting my shirt off. The pump I am getting is almost hindering some of my lifts. I get so tight it is hard to move. I was setting up the bench to do the spider curls and was going through the movement without a bar in my hand. I am pretty sure I could of just done it with no weight and squeezed at the top and still tore down some muscle It's ridiculous !!

 

[jdg76]

Well guys maybe some bad news, I've got possibly an infection at an inject site. It's pretty red, hot, and sore. I started some antibiotics just in case. I will keep an eye on it. My wife used an ink pin and marked around were the redness stopped to see if it is worse in the morning.

Needless to say no leg day tomorrow because it was in the quad. I'll keep everyone updated.


Now the good news. Killed a back workout today !!

Meadows Rows-
90 x 12
115 x 12
115 x 12 drop
90 x 8 drop
45 x 8

Rack chins-
BW +25# 10,10,10 drop
BW x 10

Single arm cable rows-
120 x 8
100 x 10
80 x 12

Neutral grip pulldowns-
100 2 x 25
I couldn't lower my arms after this, my lats were so swollen!!

Seated DB shrugs-
80's 3 x 15

Standing side lateral raises-
20's 3 sets 20

Very wide grip bent over rows on smith machine-
95 3 x 20

Veins were spider webbed across my shoulders and down my arms.
Surprisingly I am staying pretty lean on this run. Although I have been stuck at the 208-210 mark for a week now, just can't seem to put on any more weight. I am eating as much as I can, and even trying to snack between meals.
I only have 5 days of Dbol left so I may drop some water afterwards. I should lean out nicely if I do

 

[KilaCali]

Well guys maybe some bad news, I've got possibly an infection at an inject site. It's pretty red, hot, and sore. I started some antibiotics just in case. I will keep an eye on it. My wife used an ink pin and marked around were the redness stopped to see if it is worse in the morning.

Needless to say no leg day tomorrow because it was in the quad. I'll keep everyone updated.


Now the good news. Killed a back workout today !!

Meadows Rows-
90 x 12
115 x 12
115 x 12 drop
90 x 8 drop
45 x 8

Rack chins-
BW +25# 10,10,10 drop
BW x 10

Single arm cable rows-
120 x 8
100 x 10
80 x 12

Neutral grip pulldowns-
100 2 x 25
I couldn't lower my arms after this, my lats were so swollen!!

Seated DB shrugs-
80's 3 x 15

Standing side lateral raises-
20's 3 sets 20

Very wide grip bent over rows on smith machine-
95 3 x 20

Veins were spider webbed across my shoulders and down my arms.
Surprisingly I am staying pretty lean on this run. Although I have been stuck at the 208-210 mark for a week now, just can't seem to put on any more weight. I am eating as much as I can, and even trying to snack between meals.
I only have 5 days of Dbol left so I may drop some water afterwards. I should lean out nicely if I do

damn that sucks man!! I thought I had the same but it seems to be going away already, I got a whole stock pile of antibiotics, I hear cephalexin is really good?? I got amoxicillin 875mg 20tabs,penicillin vk 500mg 28tabs, cephalexin 500mg 30caps, clindamycin 150mg caps(about 12 of them), metronidazole 42 500mg tabs, I even got the steroid dexamethasone 10 0.75mg tabs... which one of those are best for if you have an cellulitas/injection type infection?? and would that steroid(dexamethasone help with that kind of swelling? I pretty sure its about gone now but for further knowledge.. of course I know if it gets real bad to see the doc..

 

[jdg76]

I would either use cephalexin or metronidazole. I am not a doc so take it with a grain of salt I think the dexamethasone is more for inflammation than and infection?

 

[brundel]

You need bactrim bro. Not every antibiotic will work for every infection. Pretty sure ceflex is more commonly used for bronchial infections and The metro is for CDiff.
Bactrim is what you need for injection site infections.
If, its still hot and angry tomorrow go to the Dr. Period.
You can die from infections. Or have a leg amputated. Ive had injection infections twice. Bactrim was prescribed both times by different drs.

 

[KilaCali]

I would either use cephalexin or metronidazole. I am not a doc so take it with a grain of salt I think the dexamethasone is more for inflammation than and infection?

yea that's why I said it was a steroid, anti inflammatory for swelling,,

 

[KilaCali]

You need bactrim bro. Not every antibiotic will work for every infection. Pretty sure ceflex is more commonly used for bronchial infections and The metro is for CDiff.
Bactrim is what you need for injection site infections.
If, its still hot and angry tomorrow go to the Dr. Period.
You can die from infections. Or have a leg amputated. Ive had injection infections twice. Bactrim was prescribed both times by different drs.

thanks for the info and the Keflex they gave me for when I had a filling and it was swelling a little.. but yea they all have their own crazy uses, I just never needed to use any of them, that metro I think they did give to me cause they had given me clindamycin for bacterial tonsillitis and thought I got c-=diff from those, but thankfull I didn't have it, it was just all the stuff I was taking at the time makin me sick.

 

[brundel]

Cdiff sucks. I got it in the hospital once. TERRIBLE.

 

[jdg76]

You need bactrim bro. Not every antibiotic will work for every infection. Pretty sure ceflex is more commonly used for bronchial infections and The metro is for CDiff.
Bactrim is what you need for injection site infections.
If, its still hot and angry tomorrow go to the Dr. Period.
You can die from infections. Or have a leg amputated. Ive had injection infections twice. Bactrim was prescribed both times by different drs.

Ya I will be going to the doc tomorrow. It is worse now then it was this morning. Only bad part is you can't actually see the pin site because there is no "head" to it. So not sure if the doc will believe it was an ingrown hair, or bug bite or something haha.

 

[KilaCali]

Ya I will be going to the doc tomorrow. It is worse now then it was this morning. Only bad part is you can't actually see the pin site because there is no "head" to it. So not sure if the doc will believe it was an ingrown hair, or bug bite or something haha.

So im trying to figure out my currewnt situation is, my right glute I did an injection and shortly after there was a small ball what I figure is the depot, it had a little tenderness to it but it was dissipating daily, so about 3-4 days later I did an injection a good 3 inches or more above that spot and made sure the needle didn't point towards that, well as soon as I pull the needle out dark red blood comes POURING out like a river, about the amount of the 2ml shot I did!! I didn't even have time to cover it it took literally one second from removing it.. so from what ive researched it seems I might have pushed it in too fast?? anyways I went about an inch or two over from that and had to re-do the injection, that time it worked fine.. well 2-3 days later now I have a good size bump on my upper glute about 2-3 inches wide and 1 inch if that from top to bottom and its a little tender, no redness or heat.. the masteron I was using has some pip to it and that's why I got a somewhat good deal on it (masteron E) but im forced to do 1/2ml because of the pip, along with my 1ML of mast-p.. think that has anything to do with it? also not to ramble on but on my left glute is what kinda had me worried, by the end of the day it turned into a hard knot the size of a golf ball with redness and warm to the touch, it was like that a few days and now its diminished to the size of a large marble, still somewhat hard and itchy sometimes.. and still a little tender.. I practice very clean injection techniques, whip everything down with separate pads, use a 21g 1" to draw, 25g 5/8 to inject.. I think the left side I had used a insulin1cc/1/2" for that one though, maybe it wasn't deep enough?? sorry for the novel, but I know you guys know a good deal of what im talking about and since we were kind of on the subject I wanted to throw it out ther! also only reason I didn't see the doc is I didn't feel no signs of infection like body aches/fever/nausea etc... and seeing how it is diminishing VERY slowly but surely...

 

[jdg76]

So im trying to figure out my currewnt situation is, my right glute I did an injection and shortly after there was a small ball what I figure is the depot, it had a little tenderness to it but it was dissipating daily, so about 3-4 days later I did an injection a good 3 inches or more above that spot and made sure the needle didn't point towards that, well as soon as I pull the needle out dark red blood comes POURING out like a river, about the amount of the 2ml shot I did!! I didn't even have time to cover it it took literally one second from removing it.. so from what ive researched it seems I might have pushed it in too fast?? anyways I went about an inch or two over from that and had to re-do the injection, that time it worked fine.. well 2-3 days later now I have a good size bump on my upper glute about 2-3 inches wide and 1 inch if that from top to bottom and its a little tender, no redness or heat.. the masteron I was using has some pip to it and that's why I got a somewhat good deal on it (masteron E) but im forced to do 1/2ml because of the pip, along with my 1ML of mast-p.. think that has anything to do with it? also not to ramble on but on my left glute is what kinda had me worried, by the end of the day it turned into a hard knot the size of a golf ball with redness and warm to the touch, it was like that a few days and now its diminished to the size of a large marble, still somewhat hard and itchy sometimes.. and still a little tender.. I practice very clean injection techniques, whip everything down with separate pads, use a 21g 1" to draw, 25g 5/8 to inject.. I think the left side I had used a insulin1cc/1/2" for that one though, maybe it wasn't deep enough?? sorry for the novel, but I know you guys know a good deal of what im talking about and since we were kind of on the subject I wanted to throw it out ther! also only reason I didn't see the doc is I didn't feel no signs of infection like body aches/fever/nausea etc... and seeing how it is diminishing VERY slowly but surely...

The blood more than likely had nothing to do with the previous injection spot. I've had the same happen to me before. So it was probably from pushing to fast. You can try to do a ztrack next time, it helps sometimes to keep from bleeding.
As long as the swelling/tenderness is going away I wouldn't worry to much. I have had tenderness for 3-4 days before from suspension.

 

[jdg76]

Went to the docs this morning. He knew I shaved so he said he just figured it was an ingrown hair that had some type of infection. I didn't say otherwise He prescibed Keflex instead of bactrim? It actually looked better this morning so hopefully it works.


Skipped lower body and did a heavy upper body today.
Felt very strong and decided to max on my bench. Set a hell of a PR !!!


Bent over Barbell rows-
275 4 x 5 (PR)

Small V-grip pulldowns-
200 3 x 6

Flat barbell bench-
135 x 10
185 x 5
225 x 5
275 x 3
315 x 3
335 x 1
355 x 1
375 x 1
385 x 1 (PR)

BW dips-
2 x 25

Barbell curls-

80 3 x 12


[video=youtube;jkjd0tDJw5o]https://youtu.be/jkjd0tDJw5o[/video]

 

[KilaCali]

glad its getting better, that's some good weight man! nice form.

 

[KilaCali]

The blood more than likely had nothing to do with the previous injection spot. I've had the same happen to me before. So it was probably from pushing to fast. You can try to do a ztrack next time, it helps sometimes to keep from bleeding.
As long as the swelling/tenderness is going away I wouldn't worry to much. I have had tenderness for 3-4 days before from suspension.

cool, yea I been doing that ztrack more lately, stretching the skin nice and tight, seems like it kind of helps with the penetration as well and breaking the skin, im going to be doing some TNE/Tren Base 50/50 pretty soon you ever try it? I planned to only do half a ML to start 25/25, and see how it goes from there,

i was thinking. or am I way off here?? I just get all these crazy idea's with different cycles I read people doing and wonder if someone wanted to run a dual base cycle I know you have to pin twice a day to keep levels up,but if you were running 4-5 days on and 2 off of base pinning, say a day before the day off from that,you were to pin propionate at 50-100mg more then normal and being as its a 2-4 day esther would it keep those levels somewhat the same for those two days off..??

 

[brundel]

As long as a dr scripts it you should be fine.
You may have wanted to tell him it was an injection abscess though. If its getting better then its all good.

 

[jdg76]

As long as a dr scripts it you should be fine.
You may have wanted to tell him it was an injection abscess though. If its getting better then its all good.

He has me taking 500mg 4x/day for 5 days. Said if it doesn't get any better, or gets worse to go see him again. If I have to I may say something. Just don't want it in my medical records that I am running gear..

 

[jdg76]

glad its getting better, that's some good weight man! nice form.

Thanks man. I didn't touch my chest with the bar, but I am not into powerlifting really so it doesn't matter IMO

 

[jdg76]

Btw my bp at the docs today was 140/82. Off cycle runs 128-130/70. So I'm doing good......

 

[brundel]

Not bad at all considering the compounds your running.

 

[KilaCali]

Thanks man. I didn't touch my chest with the bar, but I am not into powerlifting really so it doesn't matter IMO

Yea, I agree man, and that T.O.T is better when your not touching the chest to kind of springboard off it, I seen a nice clean press there!

 

[jdg76]

Heavy lower body day.

Subbed in fronts instead of back squats...


Front squats-
135 x 10
185 x 5
225 x 5
245 x 5
225 x 5

SLDL-
135 x 10
225 x 5
275 x 5
305 x 5
315 x 5
275 x 5

Leg Extension-
150 x 8
190 x 8
230 x 8
250 x 8 (stack)

Seated leg press machine calf raises-
140 2 sets 50


As for the ORAL AI. I haven't talked with brundel about it so I'm not sure his thoughts.
I have gotten rid of most of the tenderness in my right nip running Nolva plus the AI. But there is still some puffiness and the knot feels bigger.
At four caps/.day I have 7 days left. So, even though we do not know if there is any Estrogen rebound running this I am going to taper off the AI while adding back in Adex. I am having to many issues to chance a bad rebound even though I will be going straight into another AI. After I get tapered off I will then slowly taper off the Nolva also. I only have a few days of Dbol left so that will help when I am off it.
I know there is a lot of people following this log and that is a ? many have asked, but there are a few other logs going on right now, where someone else may be able to comment on whether they had a rebound or not.

I will also get up a full detailed review within the next few days with my thoughts on this product




BTW the infection seems to be looking a little better. It didn't hinder my leg workout today so that is a good thing..

 

[abformulations]

I never got any redound from it, IMO I don't think tapering is needed.

 

[brundel]

Since your switching to adex there is no need to taper because youll have an aromatase inhibitor present.
If you were going to stop all AI use then maybe be concerned but not in this case. My 2c.

 

[jdg76]

Ok....I'll finish out the week without tapering the AI. Then switch over to adex.

 

[jdg76]

Back and Bis ! Row, row, row......

DB rows-
70's x 10
80's x 10
90's x 10
100's 3 x 10 VIDEO \/ \/ \/ \/

we really need DB's that go higher than 100. These felt way to easy!!

Wide grip seated rows-
160 4 x 10

Single Arm seated cable rows-
80 3 x 15

DB shrugs- 3 sec hold
100's 4 x 10


Alternating DB curls-
35's x 8
40's x 8
45's x 8
30's x 12

Rope grip cable curls-
120 3 x 12

Double Bi high cable curls-
30 x 25
40 x 15
50 x 15

Rowing like they're nuttin

[video=youtube;72mKLDGHQYA]https://youtu.be/72mKLDGHQYA[/video]

 

[tyga tyga]

Looks like you need to start getting creative and stackin DB to get em heavier

 

[Rocket3015]

Looks like you need to start getting creative and stackin DB to get em heavier

DB's with chains !!

 

[Pride89]

I remember reading on pubmed that Nolva and Adex dont go hand in hand
I Think that one lower the effects of the other
(On my phone now so cant check)

 

[KilaCali]

Looks like you need to start getting creative and stackin DB to get em heavier

lol I like to run the rack sometimes, 100-90-80-70-60-50 on the last set or two. that looked pretty light for him!

 

[KilaCali]

I remember reading on pubmed that Nolva and Adex dont go hand in hand
I Think that one lower the effects of the other
(On my phone now so cant check)

yea I keep seeing this too and not just people sayin it but actualy studies im gonna look more into it but it said nolva lowered the blood plasma level of letro.. which sucks cause I just threw 10mg nolva back in my mix and ran out of aromasin so im forced to use letro for a week... im just upping the dose to .75 of letro rather then .25 or .50 and that should do the trick for now.. just seeing if I can eliminate some nip sensitivity and their a tad bit puffy...

 

[KilaCali]

quick link to medicinenet about letro and tamox...
http://www.medicinenet.com/letrozole/article.htm

DRUG INTERACTIONS: Tamoxifen reduces blood levels of letrozole when both drugs are administered together. However, in clinical studies the benefit of letrozole was not reduced when administered immediately after tamoxifen. Letrozole is an anti-estrogen drug. Therefore, estrogen containing products counteract the effect of letrozole.

 

[KilaCali]

heres another from WebMD
http://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-4511/arimidex-oral/details/list-interaction-details/dmid-1170/dmtitle-anastrozole letrozole-tamoxifen/intrtype-drug

Medical warning:
Severe. These medicines may interact and cause very harmful effects and are usually not taken together. Contact your healthcare professional (e.g. doctor or pharmacist) for more information.

How the interaction occurs:
Tamoxifen may speed up how quickly your liver processes anastrozole and letrozole.
What might happen:
The beneficial effects of anastrozole and letrozole may decrease.

gotta take it all with a grain of salt.

 

[jdg76]

Looks like you need to start getting creative and stackin DB to get em heavier

DB's with chains !!

Good ideas! I really like the idea of using chains with them haha.

 

[jdg76]

I'm running Nolva with Adex not letro

 

[KilaCali]

I'm running Nolva with Adex not letro

Medical warning:

Severe. These medicines may interact and cause very harmful effects and are usually not taken together. Contact your healthcare professional (e.g. doctor or pharmacist) for more information.

How the interaction occurs:
Tamoxifen may speed up how quickly your liver processes anastrozole and letrozole.

What might happen:
The beneficial effects of anastrozole and letrozole may decrease.

just a heads up :O that's from WebMD
http://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-4511/arimidex-oral/details/list-interaction-details/dmid-1170/dmtitle-anastrozole letrozole-tamoxifen/intrtype-drug

 

[KilaCali]

it seems like if you do your tamox and wait a bit THEN do your letro or adex then you shouldn't have too much of a prob.. im gonna try nolva EOD and letro EOD on the opposite days, see how that works.. i'll let ya know!

 

[jdg76]

Gotcha. Read over that somehow. Right now I'm just running the oral ai and tamoxifen. Would be switching to adex later this week.

 

[KilaCali]

another reason why I LOVE exemestane!! its in a league of its own.

 

[brundel]

Its possible that Nolva is somehow interacting with the Oral AI as well. May explain why it was working better before you started the nolva.

 

[jdg76]

Its possible that Nolva is somehow interacting with the Oral AI as well. May explain why it was working better before you started the nolva.

That is possible.... since I have been off the Dbol it has made a big difference. I've lowered the Nolva to 10mg and am still taking the ORAL AI at 4 caps/day.

 

[KilaCali]

brundel we better not find out your using androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione(arimistane) and Malaysian dandelions In your ai j/k still wanna try it when it comes out one of these days!!

 

[brundel]

brundel we better not find out your using androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione(arimistane) and Malaysian dandelions In your ai j/k still wanna try it when it comes out one of these days!!

I can tell you with 100% certainty that I would NEVER use something with no viable studies or clinical evidence it works.
The new oral has research into its use as an AI. I even know exactly which chems in it are doing the heavy lifting. Also there are studies regarding absorption and metabolism and its metabolites and dosing etc etc etc so...we are not blindly stabbing in the dark and hoping something happens. I know for 100% certain its an AI and a damn good one.
Many of the AIs being used currently are weak at best. 1000000 times weaker than letro for example is one I know of. People just dont read full studies or do the math. Some companies use portions of abstracts to support claims and nobody checks it out. I was very thorough here.
We ran extensive testing including everything from raw plant testing down to bloodwork in test subjects. No sir. There is no snake oil coming from me.
EVER.

 

[KilaCali]

I can tell you with 100% certainty that I would NEVER use something with no viable studies or clinical evidence it works.
The new oral has research into its use as an AI. I even know exactly which chems in it are doing the heavy lifting. Also there are studies regarding absorption and metabolism and its metabolites and dosing etc etc etc so...we are not blindly stabbing in the dark and hoping something happens. I know for 100% certain its an AI and a damn good one.
Many of the AIs being used currently are weak at best. 1000000 times weaker than letro for example is one I know of. People just dont read full studies or do the math. Some companies use portions of abstracts to support claims and nobody checks it out. I was very thorough here.
We ran extensive testing including everything from raw plant testing down to bloodwork in test subjects. No sir. There is no snake oil coming from me.
EVER.

lol hell yess, you guys are awesome man, that's what i'm talking about, so sick of random **** thrown into these ai's/pcts/cycle guards/test boosters etc.. that supposedly does this or that when you know its all a buncha ground up flower pedal b.s. that probably makes things worse and is more toxic then a PH .. very grateful theres a few reputable guys left in the business.