PA vs ARA

[kissdadookie]

Cissus and fish oil

You can still take the ArA. Even 2 grams of fish oil daily did not have any meaningful perceptible counter effects to the ArA for me personally. Just dose it hours (6+) away from the ArA dose.

 

[changemyoil66]

You can still take the ArA. Even 2 grams of fish oil daily did not have any meaningful perceptible counter effects to the ArA for me personally. Just dose it hours (6+) away from the ArA dose.

That's the issue. I take my fish oil 3x a day. Breakfast, afternoon snack, and dinner. So I wouldn't be able to fit in the ARA. Its ok though, Ill stick with soy lecithin for now.

 

[kissdadookie]

That's the issue. I take my fish oil 3x a day. Breakfast, afternoon snack, and dinner. So I wouldn't be able to fit in the ARA. Its ok though, Ill stick with soy lecithin for now.

Split the dosing to 2 x's a day. Heck, I've taken 1 gram of fish oil post workout on my first ArA run. That was 1 gram of ArA. It's as good if not better than my second ArA run @ 1.5 grams ArA w/ LCLT + GMS and w/o fish oil.

Stop over-complicating it man.

 

[bb333]

I will try it PA.

a few questions.

best King, or soy lecithin granules?

What are the side effects of PA?

You can take along with ARA?

 

[changemyoil66]

I would try soy lecithin first since its cheaper. Run a few months on that. Then on the 2nd cycle run king to see which one gives you better results.

 

[bb333]

I would try soy lecithin first since its cheaper. Run a few months on that. Then on the 2nd cycle run king to see which one gives you better results.

ABC TRADING
Lecitina Gransoia
250 grammi
http://www.iafstore.com/imgp/mm/a28133.jpg
This can fit?
Informazioni Nutrizionali
per 100g

Valore energetico
900Kcal / 3700Kj
Proteine totali di origine vegetale meno di 100mg
Grassi
di cui acidi grassi totali
di cui saturi
monoinsaturi
polisaturi
91,0g
50,0g
11,5-13,0g
3,0-6,0g
31,0-34,0g
Colesterolo 0,0g
Fosfolipidi
Fosfatidilcolina
Fosfatidiletanolamina
Fosfatidilinositolo
Fosfatidi acido
91g circa
18-22g
11-14g
12-15g
4-7g
Carboidrati di cui monosaccaridi e disaccaridi
polisaccaridi
8,0g
4,0g
4,0g
Fibre 0,0g
Minerali
Sodio
Calcio
Ferro
Potassio
40mg
150mg
5mg
1500mg
Umidità max 1,5%

 

[changemyoil66]

Sorry man I'm American and cant translate. But the PA content in what every brand soy lecithin you buy is 7%. So if you're taking 10 grams of soy lecithin, you're getting 700mg of PA. 20 grams would yield 1400mg of PA.

 

[bb333]

Sorry man I'm American and cant translate. But the PA content in what every brand soy lecithin you buy is 7%. So if you're taking 10 grams of soy lecithin, you're getting 700mg of PA. 20 grams would yield 1400mg of PA.

Thanks brother

I'll try that product,
is saleable in Italy, 10 euro, 250 gr.

 

[SwolenONE]

Sorry man I'm American and cant translate. But the PA content in what every brand soy lecithin you buy is 7%. So if you're taking 10 grams of soy lecithin, you're getting 700mg of PA. 20 grams would yield 1400mg of PA.

whats the highest people have been doing PA on here?

 

[abformulations]

whats the highest people have been doing PA on here?

I believe 2.5g

 

[changemyoil66]

Anywhere from 15-30 grams. Im taking 22.5 grams (3 table spoons)

 

[NewAgeMayan]

Nah danes has been dosing at least 3gm pa prewo

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Started 15g fearns yesterday, rate the taste! Will update you guys on how it compares to king in my books after a few weeks of use.

 

[ELROCK]

Started 15g fearns yesterday, rate the taste! Will update you guys on how it compares to king in my books after a few weeks of use.

How did you like your run with King? Were you dosing it at 3 caps?

 

[NoAddedHmones]

How did you like your run with King? Were you dosing it at 3 caps?

Noticed some weight gain in first week or so and fullness through out, no much else. I ran 3 caps ED.

Will be interesting to see what 450mg more PA per day will bring to the table.

 

[ELROCK]

Noticed some weight gain in first week or so and fullness through out, no much else.

Yea same here. Since adding the additional tablespoon of Fearns Lecithin to King it has really amplified the effects.

 

[paula]

Wondering if the fearn or other brand that is soy lecithin, is it genetically modified? (GMO) does anyone aware of this issue? Could be do harm than good.

 

[BCseacow83]

I personally am not bothered by GMO's per-say but most lecithin companies state non-gmo.

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Wondering if the fearn or other brand that is soy lecithin, is it genetically modified? (GMO) does anyone aware of this issue? Could be do harm than good.

Don't stress over these things, if things weren't GMO your bananas would be full of seeds, broccoli would be uneatable and Carrots would be red

 

[paula]

Didnt mean to stress out things here, i just pin point those negative sides of taking too much. Im no hate of soy lecithin here just want to let you guys know that GMO is also one that we have to avoid it, if you love your body too much

 

[BCseacow83]

Almost all the SL I have ever come across has been GMO free and stated such.

 

[Danes]

Didnt mean to stress out things here, i just pin point those negative sides of taking too much. Im no hate of soy lecithin here just want to let you guys know that GMO is also one that we have to avoid it, if you love your body too much

If you are affraid of that go for Optima Soy Lecithin

 

[Danes]

Sorry man I'm American and cant translate. But the PA content in what every brand soy lecithin you buy is 7%. So if you're taking 10 grams of soy lecithin, you're getting 700mg of PA. 20 grams would yield 1400mg of PA.

Wrong..

Optima soy lecithin has 12.5% PA

 

[Danes]

Nah danes has been dosing at least 3gm pa prewo

Yes and i will NEVER go back to 1.5g like i did before.

This is what i felt of 750mg of PA:
musclefullness and some strength and weightgain was there

1.5g:
More musclefullness, more.size and strength. Even appetite increase

2g or more (3g):
Amazing. No sides at all, strength gains are good,musclefullness,weightgain ,appetiteincrease

Used PA Since april (biotest microPA) and tried both KING versions but KING killed my stomach (i believe its due to niagen).

I dropped microPA and used just soy lecithin. Soy lecithin is cheap, easy to get bigger PA dosages anf it has other phospholipids . More PA = better results.

Since i have 12 microPA bottles i am adding 750mg to my 3g from soy lecithin.
Now i am using 3.7g(PA) each day and i LOVE it.

Did i tried to take a break from PA ? Yes and its big difference when on and off

the good thing with PA is, its damn cheap, it WORKS and it can be stacked with everything.
But like i said many times, increase your dosage. Take more than 2g

 

[bb333]

I can't buy nor Optima soy lecithin, neither Fearn.
I live in Italy, and in America I should buy, costs too much.
So I ask you, what brand should I buy?

ABC TRADING
Lecitina Gransoia

ALTA NATURA
Lecitina di Soia Granulare

SOLGAR Lecitina Granulare

NOW FOODS Lecithin Granules

 

[Danes]

I can't buy nor Optima soy lecithin, neither Fearn.
I live in Italy, and in America I should buy, costs too much.
So I ask you, what brand should I buy?

ABC TRADING
Lecitina Gransoia

ALTA NATURA
Lecitina di Soia Granulare

SOLGAR Lecitina Granulare

NOW FOODS Lecithin Granules

Go for NOW FOODS

 

[SoupNaziNazi]

Danes, I know kissdadookie said he takes his PA/SL with his other pre's but I'm curious as to your take on it. Since SL has fat and cals and seems like/is a food would taking that with ur other pre's cause them to be less absorbed since ur supposed to take them on an "empty" stomach and SL is a food?

 

[Danes]

Danes, I know kissdadookie said he takes his PA/SL with his other pre's but I'm curious as to your take on it. Since SL has fat and cals and seems like/is a food would taking that with ur other pre's cause them to be less absorbed since ur supposed to take them on an "empty" stomach and SL is a food?

If you take soy lecithin with a PWO you will be fine

 

[bb333]

Go for NOW FOODS

Thanks brother!

What dosage?
http://images.iherb.com/l/NOW-02252-7.jpg

 

[kissdadookie]

I can't buy nor Optima soy lecithin, neither Fearn.
I live in Italy, and in America I should buy, costs too much.
So I ask you, what brand should I buy?

ABC TRADING
Lecitina Gransoia

ALTA NATURA
Lecitina di Soia Granulare

SOLGAR Lecitina Granulare

NOW FOODS Lecithin Granules

Now is fine.

 

[Danes]

Thanks brother!

What dosage?
http://images.iherb.com/l/NOW-02252-7.jpg

4 Tablespoons is about 2g PA
It could be more if % is 12-13 or less if % is from 7-9..

 

[bb333]

perfect guys,
Thanks again

I'll let you know!

 

[Danes]

perfect guys,
Thanks again

I'll let you know!

Let us know how u like it

 

[kdubson14]

Nevermind

 

[Feiwong]

Hi are you callo from bodyweb?
Is for bb333

 

[bb333]

Hi are you callo from bodyweb?

YEA!

 

[Feiwong]

@ bb333
Just ordered two cans "optima" from ebay uk

 

[bb333]

@ bb333
Just ordered two cans "optima" from ebay uk

Great,
I'll see what to do

 

[Feiwong]

Are you going taking PA solo or stacking with something other?

 

[bb333]

Are you going taking PA solo or stacking with something other?

ARA+ABE

 

[Feiwong]

ARA+ABE

I'd like to try this combo but worried about joints. I'm 46 and take a lot of fish oil and OT (joint complex) every day. Not optimal with ARA

 

[bb333]

I'd like to try this combo but worried about joints. I'm 46 and take a lot of fish oil and OT (joint complex) every day. Not optimal with ARA

Too bad!

I always do 8 weeks of ARA + ABE, 1 month off (usually I take other things here, such as DAA, L-DOPA, etc. etc.).

I really like the ARA + ABE, I totally changes the lines of the body.
I would like to add to the stack forskolin, but then I far too costly,
I'm preferring to try PA.

 

[Danes]

Too bad!

I always do 8 weeks of ARA + ABE, 1 month off (usually I take other things here, such as DAA, L-DOPA, etc. etc.).

I really like the ARA + ABE, I totally changes the lines of the body.
I would like to add to the stack forskolin, but then I far too costly,
I'm preferring to try PA.

ArA+PA+ABE would be the best stack ever

 

[kbayne]

ArA+PA+ABE would be the best stack ever

I'll let you know how it goes

 

[Danes]

I'll let you know how it goes

Thank you

 

[bb333]

I'll let you know how it goes

I also

 

[Danes]

Never tried ArA And its shame
But i have inflammatory issues in my shoulders and i must admit i am affraid it will be worse

But i need to try ArA One day

 

[Feiwong]

Never tried ArA And its shame
But i have inflammatory issues in my shoulders and i must admit i am affraid it will be worse

But i need to try ArA One day

This. Same concern. However My workout is about 12 am, taking Ara prewo could be fine if taking fish oil and other stuff for joints about 9 pm?

 

[Danes]

This. Same concern. However My workout is about 12 am, taking Ara prewo could be fine if taking fish oil and other stuff for joints about 9 pm?

As long as you split fish oil and ArA it should not be any problem actually

 

[kbayne]

This. Same concern. However My workout is about 12 am, taking Ara prewo could be fine if taking fish oil and other stuff for joints about 9 pm?

That works perfectly as Danes said.