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With all these male enhancement commercials and bodybuilding growing in popularity does anyone think there will be a day when steroids and those who use them won't be schooled at by those who don't understand?
I accept them socially.With all these male enhancement commercials and bodybuilding growing in popularity does anyone think there will be a day when steroids and those who use them won't be schooled at by those who don't understand?
As long as there are idiots who jump into anabolics without having any clue how to do it safely, and football players who claim that they were using Adderall when they fail a drug test (the collective bargaining agreement does not allow disclosure of which drug they tested positive for, so lots of players say Adderall), even though they were very likely using anabolics, the public is going to assume that anyone using anabolics is cheating.With all these male enhancement commercials and bodybuilding growing in popularity does anyone think there will be a day when steroids and those who use them won't be schooled at by those who don't understand?
Boom!The media jumps all over athletes for PEDs but I didn't hear anyone complaining when AP rushed for 2100 yards lol
The media turns a (willfully or otherwise) blind eye to football PED use.The media jumps all over athletes for PEDs but I didn't hear anyone complaining when AP rushed for 2100 yards lol
Whaaaat? You mean they use more than deer antler spray??The media turns a (willfully or otherwise) blind eye to football PED use.
lol, I've had one of my guys ask about that.. smhWhaaaat? You mean they use more than deer antler spray??
Friggin funny stufflol, I've had one of my guys ask about that.. smh
Lol, yes. They also use creatine.Whaaaat? You mean they use more than deer antler spray??
I thought that was banned???Lol, yes. They also use creatine.
You're thinking of dat dere celltech.I thought that was banned???
Wow. Do they let them use whey protein and rolled oats too?You're thinking of dat dere celltech.
Why is it cheating in other sports? Athletes use every advantage they can get: Cutting-edge equipment, training programs, and nutritional regimens; leading-edge strength and conditioning coaches, hitting coaches, etc.; and even comprehensive supplement plans. Why is this particular advantage cheating while others are not? And why is it okay in bodybuilding but not other sports? The bodybuilder on steroids has the same advantage over a natural bodybuilder as a baseball player on steroids has over one who isn't. In fact, I'd argue that steroids offer an even greater advantage in bodybuilding than other sports. And what about the other strength pursuits: powerlifting, Olympic lifting, strongman. Is it okay there, or is it cheating?I can understand the stigma of being a cheater in all sports besides bodybuilding. Anyone who's knows anything about the stuff knows that you don't just take it and become the hulk...
well theres the part where steroids can and do make athletes stronger and faster than naturally possible. all those other advantages are still limited to genetics, steroids arntWhy is it cheating in other sports? Athletes use every advantage they can get: Cutting-edge equipment, training programs, and nutritional regimens; leading-edge strength and conditioning coaches, hitting coaches, etc.; and even comprehensive supplement plans. Why is this particular advantage cheating while others are not? And why is it okay in bodybuilding but not other sports? The bodybuilder on steroids has the same advantage over a natural bodybuilder as a baseball player on steroids has over one who isn't. In fact, I'd argue that steroids offer an even greater advantage in bodybuilding than other sports. And what about the other strength pursuits: powerlifting, Olympic lifting, strongman. Is it okay there, or is it cheating?
This.well theres the part where steroids can and do make athletes stronger and faster than naturally possible. all those other advantages are still limited to genetics, steroids arnt
Ben Johnson. He's basically the reason steroids were made illegal in the US.Who was that Canadian Olympic sprinter that set the world record 100m that got caught? He came back a few years later and was slower. That was kind of the worlds acknowledgement to them making a person stronger and faster.
And talk about socially unaccepted at the time but Canada also banned him..
How old is you're father or your uncles because if they are in their 50's there's a chance that they might have even used steroids. They were pretty big in the 80's and 90's. They didn't become a controlled substance until 1991 if I remember correctly.the middle aged people in my life (parents, uncles, older friends, etc) are split but still more on the side of "not understanding" or "not approving"
One uncle could have (stalky sicilian side of the family and was always strong) but father and my other uncles haven't or wouldn'tHow old is you're father or your uncles because if they are in their 50's there's a chance that they might have even used steroids. They were pretty big in the 80's and 90's. They didn't become a controlled substance until 1991 if I remember correctly.
That's what i mean. Now on the other hand unless your grandfather was in the olympics or something then i doubt he ever took steroids.One uncle could have (stalky sicilian side of the family and was always strong) but father and my other uncles haven't or wouldn't
This is 100% truth. Especially with the news, they won't report on someone who uses steroids quietly and correctly, hell its the idiots who use synthol and end up with a blood clot and dying that get on the news. And synthol isn't even steroids -___- but of course people don't know the difference.Part of the reason they won't be accepted is due to RAMPANT irresponsible (and oftentimes dangerous) use by impatient and inexperienced trainees.
We can all read studies that show PEDs can and are used safely, but those are countered by the endless stream of jackassery that comes with novice steroid use. All one has to do is spend 10 minutes perusing the Anabolics section to see what I'm talking about.
Additionally, you won't hear stories about successful use. Guys that get blood panels before/during/after, practice responsible use and quietly grow aren't who we hear from. We hear from the idiots who think TRT is a legal cycle, idiots whose endocrine system is irreparably incapacitated from banging a gram of test/week for 6 months, idiots who beat the shyt out of someone in a fit of rage and blame "the juice".
The negative connotations are, at this point (IMHO), insurmountable.
I could not have said it better.....The way I see it is. It is your body, your temple. No man has the right to dictate what you do with it. If you wanna run 150mg of tren a day so be it. When you go into a coma and **** don't blame the roids, blame yourself for being an idiot.
That is your Liberty. Something that has been forgotten in this country of rules and regulation.
A .240 hitter who goes on juice will still be a .240 hitter. A linebacker who can't tackle and goes on juice will run faster and hit harder, but he still can't tackle. Steroids won't help you catch the ball or shoot a jumper or pot a goal on a breakaway. And then there's still the question of why the OP considers usage of hormones to be justified in bodybuilding.well theres the part where steroids can and do make athletes stronger and faster than naturally possible. all those other advantages are still limited to genetics, steroids arnt
Who's to say that .240 hitter could only put a ball out 410ft on a prefect pitch/hit off juice. Then said hitter goes on and can put them out 450+ in the perfect scenario. He still hits like **** but when he does he knocks it the **** out of the park.A .240 hitter who goes on juice will still be a .240 hitter. A linebacker who can't tackle and goes on juice will run faster and hit harder, but he still can't tackle. Steroids won't help you catch the ball or shoot a jumper or pot a goal on a breakaway. And then there's still the question of why the OP considers usage of hormones to be justified in bodybuilding.
Carl Lewis, the man Ben Johnson supposedly "robbed", tested positive for amphetamines in the same games and I believe the same event. No one cared. No one remembers.Who was that Canadian Olympic sprinter that set the world record 100m that got caught? He came back a few years later and was slower. That was kind of the worlds acknowledgement to them making a person stronger and faster.
And talk about socially unaccepted at the time but Canada also banned him..
This thinking is too narrow, but that's a different discussion.The way I see it is. It is your body, your temple. No man has the right to dictate what you do with it. If you wanna run 150mg of tren a day so be it. When you go into a coma and **** don't blame the roids, blame yourself for being an idiot.
That is your Liberty. Something that has been forgotten in this country of rules and regulation.
This is correct. But why do the rules disallow them? Simply because of the advantage they offer? Cyclists don't ride bikes with old-fashioned, heavy steel frames. They ride bikes built from the newest, lightest alloys and composite materials that offer the most ideal strength-to-weight ratio for their pursuit. If Bob beats Bill in the Tour de Hillbilly, but Bob's bike is lighter, did Bob cheat? If you apply the logic that is used to keep steroids out of sport, then yes, Bob cheated and a level playing field is only maintained when everyone uses the same equipment and the same training regimens and eat the same food and go to sleep at the time and et cetera et cetera. Only then does pure genetic ability win out. Although we still haven't talked about the psychological aspects of sports and how mental toughness and that innate "winner's attitude" factor in. How about athletes that utilize sports psychologists to achieve that winner's mentality or to get past emotional blocks that prevent them from fully tapping their abilities? They're trying to overcome genetic deficiency, just like the steroid user. Are they cheating?Its cheating when the rules in the sport say so. Tell me what pro sports don't have rules against PEDs.
Well, since you started the conversation...If your pursuit to life, liberty and happiness is to do large amounts of steroids, or alcohol, or pain killers then so be it.
What's narrow about that?
The fact you may effect a family member per say? As long as its not physical or jeopardizing the life of your child or your ability to care for said child its your right. Now you cross that line and there's things in place to punish you. Which is acceptable under our constitutional republic.