M1A vs SD

[Husker89]

Sourdough I consult out to the best roofign company then get commission on the back end, we have had the cat teams out here so life is awesome got 2 bought 2 days agao and 2 mroe signed up 1 day ago and 10 25 k jobs waiting on adjusters

 

[LiveToLift]

My bad..

Not trying to call you out just trying to help. These vitamin shops sell multiple steroid supplements and the idiots have no idea what they are. Some have sdrol and Hdrol all in one under dosed and they sell them with out even recommending support supps. They just say they are test boosters. It's easier then most think.

 

[Husker89]

especially with a propretary blend and no compund listed just a trademarked name like methly sten TM and 20 other actual t-boosting ingredients, truce is on, log time, checkout my prolactrone log, awesome update.

Not trying to call you out just trying to help. These vitamin shops sell multiple steroid supplements and the idiots have no idea what they are. Some have sdrol and Hdrol all in one under dosed and they sell them with out even recommending support supps. They just say they are test boosters. It's easier then most think.

 

[bmftisftw]

especially with a propretary blend and no compund listed just a trademarked name like methly sten TM and 20 other actual t-boosting ingredients, truce is on, log time, checkout my prolactrone log, awesome update.

Link?

 

[bmftisftw]

Not trying to call you out just trying to help. These vitamin shops sell multiple steroid supplements and the idiots have no idea what they are. Some have sdrol and Hdrol all in one under dosed and they sell them with out even recommending support supps. They just say they are test boosters. It's easier then most think.

I understand LTL its no big deal I know you usually don't mean anything maliciously

 

[Sourdough]

Link?

....you've never heard of mass tabs?

There's no link to it...it's no longer made. Only place your likely to find it is on some dusty local supp shop shelf... in the test booster section.



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[Husker89]

type in prolactrone ul find it on AM

Link?

 

[bmftisftw]

....you've never heard of mass tabs?

There's no link to it...it's no longer made. Only place your likely to find it is on some dusty local supp shop shelf... in the test booster section.



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I was asking for a link to his log... Lol

 

[DonnyG]

Alright bros sorry for the lack of updates lately. The first few days of the month are crucial in my business, and I've been hard pressed to do anything outside of work and hitting the gym. Also had a little cold over the weekend, which didn't help. Shook it, and I'm back better than ever.

Did back yesterday. Decent workout. Only hit 315 on deads, but I felt like a zombie (took nyquil the night before and only slept 6 hours, it was like I was sleepwalking in the gym). Like I said earlier in the thread, diet has been iffy, but that's largely due to the fact that I was coming down with a cold. Smashed like an animal yesterday and now I'm feeling better than ever.

Update on the sides - no shutdown as of yet. Still hitting it on the regular and the boys are intact. Acne is starting to come out a BIT, nothing like SD though.

Strength and longevity in the gym have been the biggest pros to this ds. Really want to push it to 60mg but I don't have another bottle in hand and can't find one anywhere. Might just start taking the full dose an hour before the gym on lifting days. Thoughts?

Hitting chest tonight. I'll keep you guys posted on how I do. I think I'm going to order 2 bottles of stanodrol tonight to work into a bridge.

 

[DonnyG]

UPDATE

F-UCK IT, I'm going to 60mg

I have enough left in the bottle to run 60mg for the next 10 days, so that's what I'm going to do. I'm still going to pick up a bottle or two of stano to bridge into. I'll let you bros know when it's on its way.

Donny

 

[hagels316]

60mg is where it's at. If I run it again def 60mg all the way.

 

[DonnyG]

Ran it at the gym. Did so many dips between sets that I lost count. Might have hit 100 reps. Would have stayed longer, but monday is amateur night and thus too packed to stay.

CHEST

Incline BB
135x10
135x10
155x10
175x5
185x5

Flat BB
135x15
155x5
175x5
185x5
205x5

Tricep Pulldown Rope
100x10
100x10
110x10
120x10

Ez-Curl Bicep Curls (just to get the pump...pictured my bis turning into mountains - shout to arnold)
60x10
70x10
80x10

 

[LiveToLift]

Ran it at the gym. Did so many dips between sets that I lost count. Might have hit 100 reps. Would have stayed longer, but monday is amateur night and thus too packed to stay.

CHEST

Incline BB
135x10
135x10
155x10
175x5
185x5

Flat BB
135x15
155x5
175x5
185x5
205x5

Tricep Pulldown Rope
100x10
100x10
110x10
120x10

Ez-Curl Bicep Curls (just to get the pump...pictured my bis turning into mountains - shout to arnold)
60x10
70x10
80x10

Nice numbers bro. Concentrating on raising incline? I noticed you have that as compound.

 

[DonnyG]

LTL thank you bro. The big exercises I work on are flat bb, incline bb, seated military press, deads, and squats. Everything else is accessory work to me.

I'd love to see 225 on the incline press. 185 was feeling good yesterday. I've hit higher, but never with that much ease. I'm trying to put my ego aside and lift more reps of a lower weight before I move up. I just don't want to get complacent with a number...there's a fine line.

 

[DonnyG]

Another note - I haven't used DBs for chest in probably over a year. What are your guys thoughts on DB vs BB for chest routines?

Standing arnold press, front raises and bicep hammer curls are the only times I use dbs consistently as of right now.

 

[klint]

I think both db and bb have their own place. though some may push bb as a better mass gainer. standing arnnies r crazy lol . i know its meant to be best while on to push for more volume during workouts do u feel u could after ur final set drop the weight back down 40% and push out a last set of very high reps to really get that blood flooding into each muscle group????

 

[DonnyG]

klint - 100% i could. i'm about to go in in about 30 minutes. not sure what i want to lift tonight...might go full body with it. i'll keep you guys posted on how 60mg is treating me.

 

[wrathchild281]

klint - 100% i could. i'm about to go in in about 30 minutes. not sure what i want to lift tonight...might go full body with it. i'll keep you guys posted on how 60mg is treating me.

Cool let us know. And since ur now at 60mg ed did u dose one in the am and two preworkout or vice versa?

Also ur thread made me wanna pick up some alpha since i already have some sd on hand but havent tried it. I noticed shredded labs stopped selling it so i found one bottle on ebay for 40 bucks(kinda sketch but beggers cant be choosers.) my question is would you run

60/60/60 or 40/40/40/40? was thinking like 5 days at 40 and run out the rest of bottle at 60 especially since u say it kicks in super quick i think 3 week doses would be sufficient and im either stacking or bridging as well with stano. THanks man. Keep up the good work!

 

[klint]

Imo wrath id say bridge it start stano mid ish cycle. if used to harsher ph start high. i am going to start at 40 first week then see how it treats me. everyone reacts didferent though. donny did u rep out??

 

[DonnyG]

wrath - 20mg when I wake up, 40 approx 1 hour before the gym

40 mg for the first week is a great way to ease into it. The bp headaches are definitely a factor, so I'd say easing into 60mg is the way to go.

Tonight was the first huge workout on 60mg. I crushed it for about 2 hours and could have gone longer but I got hungry. Just smashed a serious taco salad.

Seated BB Military Press
95x10
115x10
135x10
145x10
155x8
165x5...Could have gone higher, but wanted to save my strength
135x10

Widegrip Seated Cable Row
100x15
110x15
120x15
130x15

Supersetted with DB Front Raises
15lb x 8
20lb x 8 x3

Seated DB Military Press (First time I've done these in a while...I want to start incorporating DBs more in my routines)
35 x 10
45 x 10
55 x 10...Felt great, will go heavier next time

Standing Arnold Press
25 x 10 x 3

Supersetted with 45lb plate shrugs (one of my favorite exercises)
Plates x 10 x 3

Decided to hit tris at the end of the workout

V-bar tricep pulldown
100 x 15
120 x 15
130 x 15
140 x 15

Closegrip BB Benchpress
95 x 10
115 x 10
135 x 10
135 x 10

Bros I can't stress enough, 60mg is the sweet spot for this stuff. I'm definitely going to be sad to see the bottle go. Great run so far, sides are minimal and strength and longevity is outstanding.

Tomorrow I'm going to hit back again.

 

[rayjay]

have you tracked your BP at all? I remember you talking about the headaches but I don't remember any numbers... How high has it been? I mean it must not be too bad, youre not dead or anything. Just curious where youre at

 

[klint]

Hey donny what do u think a bout brigding this with non meth ( eg andro bulk or stano) for for weeks then go back on alpha one for 3 more weeks then pct of clomod and nolva plus test boaster anti c and e. sort of serms for 4 weeks and intetgrating a.i and c for 3 weeks starting in week 3 of pct.??? Think that would be insane !!

 

[rayjay]

Hey donny what do u think a bout brigding this with non meth ( eg andro bulk or stano) for for weeks then go back on alpha one for 3 more weeks then pct of clomod and nolva plus test boaster anti c and e. sort of serms for 4 weeks and intetgrating a.i and c for 3 weeks starting in week 3 of pct.??? Think that would be insane !!

Yikes man, I hope you would get bloods after the first Alpha-1 round to be sure your liver is ok for another round?

 

[Sourdough]

Take some tudca and the liver won't be an issue, but your lipids and general health will def be taking a hit!

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[klint]

True but if u run gw that should help with lipo and health . was thinking to use high doses of healthy bacteria to help sort out colesterol. prob some other supps to.

Could be one hell of a cycle though

 

[rayjay]

What is "gw"??

 

[vidapreta]

What is "gw"??

A sarm

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[rayjay]

Wow I didn't know SARM's could help mitigate sides. I thought they were more like AAS in effect/sides just mild...

 

[Sourdough]

...how does gw help?

Please explain with proof.

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[klint]

htt:llen.m.wikipedia.org/WIki/ GW_501516#section 2
Lets hope i read this right. certainly from a fat lose point this could be useful but like many sarms it has both pros and cons. am sure used in a pct or a brigde it has its place. but sourdough honestly would like ur view .

 

[Sourdough]

... it may help with hdl but states nothing about lowering ldl... the biggest issue with extensive and high doses aas usage.

Sounds like a great compound, but not something to be taken as a support supplement to a cycle...

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[klint]

Fair very . i think the potential of sarms and the enginering in the future could be quite something. will give this a go some time next . as the logs on it soumd very intetesting .

 

[DonnyG]

I'm going to keep it to 1 bottle of M1A and a couple bottles of stano. I definitely don't feel shutdown yet....my boys are still in full effect and i'm rocking my girls world lately.

60mg is starting to produce a little bit of acne, nothing too serious. About to go crush back. I'll keep you guys posted.

 

[klint]

Sweet. Donny hows u feeling on 60 now r the pros out waying the negs??

 

[no reason]

idk i havent ran it either but i have read its pretty harsh and your only suppose to run it for 2-3 weeks only just like with M1T.

 

[DonnyG]

Rayjay - no i haven't measured bp

klint - 60 is where it's at bro, not sweating the sides at all.

Shutdown/sides by now on SD is so much worse than what I'm experiencing from M1A. I wish I could run this for 8 weeks, but unfortunately the bottle is coming close to empty. I have 2 bottles of stanodrol on the way and will start running it at 800mg ED as soon as it arrives.

 

[klint]

Ur cycle seems to be flying by

 

[lew dog]

Anyone ran the new dieselbolan v2.0 ? Supposed to be very superior to superdrol in terms of sides/ gains ratio. Not very clued up on this compound tho as its fairly new

 

[ozHarris]

I've just upped my Alpha 1 to 60 as well.

I am exactly the same as you, no sides other than acne.
Took 2 about 45 minutes before training yesterday and found i had more drive.

I am using mine in a cutting cycle so thought that may have decreased the effectiveness.
Still haven't lost any strength while being at a 600 calorie deficit.

 

[DonnyG]

If I notice a serious difference between M1A and SD I might save 1 pill and send it to PA with $100 to test it. It would be worth it to me to know what I took.

Just a heads up - I'm not quite done with M1A...I think I have 3 days left. I'm strongly considering sending my last pill out for testing. If anybody knows a reputable company that handles this type of thing please PM me. I'll contact PA, and if he's up to it I'd be happy to send it to his lab.

I've loved this cycle and am a believer in M1A. I've never felt so great while on. Best of all...I've felt next to zero shutdown. Libido has been out of control actually. As I said before, I wish I could run this longer. It's a shame that there aren't more clones of this readily available.

Donny

 

[SkubaSteve89]

been silently following for a while mate, your killing it! - looks like ill be using SL's gear as a 4 week kickstart & finisher in my injectable bulk, i was thinking of something like this: week 1-4 Methylvar (with one dose week 1 and then 2 doses at week 3-4), week 1-10 Test E 500mg p/wk, week 9-12 Rizen (3 tabs week 9, 5 tabs week 10-12), as i love the dry gains on epi and im interested in trying the trenavar. Quick question, is the M14AD in Methylvar similiar to the M1AD that you're on now? if it isn't, whats the main differences? Any adjustments/critiques from you PH pro's out there would be more than welcome!

 

[DonnyG]

oz - I hit the gym about 2 hours after taking 40 mg tonight and I absolutely loved it...felt like I could hit the gym forever. I can definitely see this being used on a cut, too.

For all the hype I heard about M1A being wet, I found it to be pretty dry. The strength and stamina are what shine through with this compound.

I took pics of my back on day 1, after week 1, and just tonight, which is exactly 3 weeks after I started (Oct. 22). This is the first time I've done this in a cycle and am very pleased with the results.

Speaking of back...

BACK

BB Deadlift
135 x 8
225 x 8
275 x 5
315 x 2

Lat Pulldowns
130 x 10
150 x 10
170 x 5
190 x 5
210 x 3
190 x 5

Cambered Lat Pulldowns
180 x 10
200 x 5
220 x 5
200 x 5
170 to failure

Closegrip Cable Rows
110 x 15
120 x 10
130 x 10

...supersetted with DB Rows
40 x 10 x 3

Decided to switch it up and hit some pec flys even though i killed bench last night...did it for the pump

Flys
170 x 15
190 x 15
200 x 15

Closegrip Pulldowns
150 x 10
180 x 10
200 x 10

Hammer Curls
25 x 10 x 3

Finished up with an isolation machine for back... can't think of the name but I crushed it.

 

[DonnyG]

Steve - Thank you for following bro I appreciate the support.

I believe that M14AD is a precursor to Dbol, but that conversion is supposedly minimal. M1A is a precursor to M1T (methyl 1 testosterone), and conversion on this (from what I've always read) is supposedly minimal, as well. Both compounds are active on their own.

M1A has been fairly dry. Methylvar is M14AD and Trendione. The dosing on the tren is pretty low, but being that tren is a wet compound, I'd expect that the two (M1A and Methylvar) would yield different results.

 

[420Lifter]

Glad to hear it went well. As i told you it is by far my fav. So what was your total gains, lifts as well as weight. M1A till I D I E. Why wouldn't he test it, it is legal I thought he would touch anything illegal maybe I'm wrong. If you do don't be shy with those results bro.

 

[wrathchild281]

Just a heads up - I'm not quite done with M1A...I think I have 3 days left. I'm strongly considering sending my last pill out for testing. If anybody knows a reputable company that handles this type of thing please PM me. I'll contact PA, and if he's up to it I'd be happy to send it to his lab.

I've loved this cycle and am a believer in M1A. I've never felt so great while on. Best of all...I've felt next to zero shutdown. Libido has been out of control actually. As I said before, I wish I could run this longer. It's a shame that there aren't more clones of this readily available.

Donny

That would be awsome if u decided to get it tested. Are you wanting to see the purity of it or can you actually have it tested for an accurate conversion amount to m1t?

 

[SkubaSteve89]

Steve - Thank you for following bro I appreciate the support.

I believe that M14AD is a precursor to Dbol, but that conversion is supposedly minimal. M1A is a precursor to M1T (methyl 1 testosterone), and conversion on this (from what I've always read) is supposedly minimal, as well. Both compounds are active on their own.

M1A has been fairly dry. Methylvar is M14AD and Trendione. The dosing on the tren is pretty low, but being that tren is a wet compound, I'd expect that the two (M1A and Methylvar) would yield different results.

no worries man, Ph's and research chems are about the only thing that gets through customs here in OZ so im definetly keen on learning all i can about the different PH profiles out. Ah yep i get you, M1A is a dry gainer and M14AD is a wet one basically. So whats the name of the product your on from SL? Is it M-Sten 4?

 

[beastt]

Steve - Thank you for following bro I appreciate the support.

I believe that M14AD is a precursor to Dbol, but that conversion is supposedly minimal. M1A is a precursor to M1T (methyl 1 testosterone), and conversion on this (from what I've always read) is supposedly minimal, as well. Both compounds are active on their own.

M1A has been fairly dry. Methylvar is M14AD and Trendione. The dosing on the tren is pretty low, but being that tren is a wet compound, I'd expect that the two (M1A and Methylvar) would yield different results.

thanks for logging bro, i've learned a lot. i've sent you a pm asking a few questions if you don't mind.

 

[vidapreta]

thanks for logging bro, i've learned a lot. i've sent you a pm asking a few questions if you don't mind.

Your Avatar had me confused for a second.. It didn't seem like I was reading a typical post from the Boss Man...lol

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[Husker89]

ive heard that a cap of m14ad the dbol precursor 20mgs i believe or 30mgs whatever the dose is converts to a 5mg dianabol, so ive heard it it solid, m1a is dry and probably more hepatoxic, but m1a is soooooo goood

no worries man, Ph's and research chems are about the only thing that gets through customs here in OZ so im definetly keen on learning all i can about the different PH profiles out. Ah yep i get you, M1A is a dry gainer and M14AD is a wet one basically. So whats the name of the product your on from SL? Is it M-Sten 4?

 

[henryv]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GW_501516
Lets hope i read this right. certainly from a fat lose point this could be useful but like many sarms it has both pros and cons. am sure used in a pct or a brigde it has its place. but sourdough honestly would like ur view .

GW 501516 isn't a SARM. It's a PPARδ modulator.