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Best topical fat loss product general. Doing some research for my summer cut after this winter bulk I got planned. Shoot
I'll be getting some dermatherm soon I believeWould be interesting to see if any users have used both separately and can comment on results.
I've only used Eviscerate, and i liked it. Especially when stacked with a non-suppressive liquid fat burner.
Agreed, we just revamped the Dermatherm formula so far we have had nothing but stellar reviews. Have several logs up and running if anyone wants to follow those.Dermatherm update is fairly new so I'm sure this comparison would be pretty tough until plenty of people have ran both products. I don't think too many people have been let down by Eviscerate results, it's been out for a long time and always sells well. Why not run both one after the other and do your own experiment!
Clenviscerate.Would be interesting to see if any users have used both separately and can comment on results.
I've only used Eviscerate, and i liked it. Especially when stacked with a non-suppressive liquid fat burner.
I still have never done this, but the clen thread makes it very tempting. Maybe this summer...Clenviscerate.
I wanna try...Clenvliderate Advanced !I still have never done this, but the clen thread makes it very tempting. Maybe this summer...
What's Cap matt?I have used both and I like DermaTherm mainly due to the more tolerable effects on the skin.
I would say both work well -- but I like the more narrow range of ingredients DT uses.
My favorite was regular lipoderm-Y + Cap --- Apply cap first then 5 mins later lipoderm-Y
This is what I wanted to closely mimic with new DermaTherm gel
-Matt
capsacian. What people are feeling with the "burn" from Eviscerate. Simply the nerve reaction, no real damage, but highly effective. Lipo-Y was some good stuff, Lipoderm Ultra was my favorite. Napalm which was the improved LU from Avant Labs is actually in the Eviscerate formula, it's Napalm+extra goodies. Matt licensed the formula from Avant since he was such a big fan and improved upon it.What's Cap matt?
Yeah I would play Red Hot Chilli Peppers some 5 minutes before and even while applying EviscerateCapsaicin I guess.
I'm guessing capiscian, which is an ingredient in Eviscerate. I believe the amounts are different in certain versions, and it also pertains to the burning effect on skin ?? wru dsadeWhat's Cap matt?
Damn living in the U.K. is pricey. Think once that G sells out our line of topicals will hit there.I like Eviscerate, have gone through a few bottles of both versions (Smolder and OG).
I would try the new Dermatherm to compare but the price is £54.99 (about $75). It costs 50% more than the bottles of Genomyx Eviscerate in the UK.
Yes. Eviscerate OG has more capsacian than Eviscerate Smolder and OG is about 15% more effective because of this according to Matt.I'm guessing capiscian, which is an ingredient in Eviscerate. I believe the amounts are different in certain versions, and it also pertains to the burning effect on skin ?? wru dsade
No.capsacian. What people are feeling with the "burn" from Eviscerate. Simply the nerve reaction, no real damage, but highly effective. Lipo-Y was some good stuff, Lipoderm Ultra was my favorite. Napalm which was the improved LU from Avant Labs is actually in the Eviscerate formula, it's Napalm+extra goodies. Matt licensed the formula from Avant since he was such a big fan and improved upon it.
Definitely no.I'm guessing capiscian, which is an ingredient in Eviscerate. I believe the amounts are different in certain versions, and it also pertains to the burning effect on skin ?? wru dsade
Still no.Yes. Eviscerate OG has more capsacian than Eviscerate Smolder and OG is about 15% more effective because of this according to Matt.
Hahaha I like this idea!Hey just do this...
Apply DermaTherm target on one love handle and Eviscerate on the other...
Take pics on day 1 and day 30
lol....
-Matt
Capsaicin. Third times a charm? That's a pain to spell!
Let's just clone some twins and use them for all sorts of scientific research.Does anyone have a TWIN BROTHER? I would like to have each twin run DermaTherm and the other eviscerate for 8 weeks and Ill put them on same diet and cardio regimen....
We need more TWIN test trials lol
-Matt
In the UK, Dermatherm is £54.99 and Eviscerate is £39.99.Does anyone have a TWIN BROTHER? I would like to have each twin run DermaTherm and the other eviscerate for 8 weeks and Ill put them on same diet and cardio regimen....
We need more TWIN test trials lol
-Matt
Could it be cost of ingredients? Not sure what the ingredient profile of Eviscerate.In the UK, Dermatherm is £54.99 and Eviscerate is £39.99.
Are you confident that Dermatherm is significantly better to warrant the increase in price?
I have gone through several bottles of Eviscerate (OG and Smolder), I am curious to know why this is better to advocate over a 30% price difference. If it is significantly better I would give it a run.
Eviscerate has all the ingredients in Derma plus some others.Could it be cost of ingredients? Not sure what the ingredient profile of Eviscerate.
I really enjoy both products (Smolder and DermaTherm) OG eviscerate was just to much for me personally... ouch...In the UK, Dermatherm is £54.99 and Eviscerate is £39.99.
Are you confident that Dermatherm is significantly better to warrant the increase in price?
I have gone through several bottles of Eviscerate (OG and Smolder), I am curious to know why this is better to advocate over a 30% price difference. If it is significantly better I would give it a run.
Ben:All we need is Matt Pearson to do is come in and say whether they have more actives or not lol.
Come on Matt, don't be shy!
Thank you.I'm pretty sure both Smolder and OG have more cap in them. As for per pump ingredients I have no idea, never seen before. I know there is a ton of goodies in Eviscerate and Matt isn't known for under-dosing products! I'll try and see if Avant ever had a per pump MG of stuff from Napalm considering Napalm is in Eviscerate and Smolder along with other goodies. I'll also direct him here.
I love Eviscerate too :3 , has the Celly seal of approval. Looking to try 2 things with it:Thank you.
Eviscerate would have to have less than 70% of the actives of Dermatherm per bottle to be less cost effective in the UK (approximately).
At the moment it is my favourite topical. It would be nice for a rough clarification.
OG or Smolder? Honestly in the winter I don't notice the burn near as much with OG. I actually prefer OG, but I know many prefer the lessened scorch of Smolder. It's also one of those things that the body adjusts to very quickly. After a week on OG the burn is pretty mild. Weirdly it burns the most in the shower as you wash off, but 5 minutes after that it's completely gone. Definitely keep me posted on your results, I think you'll love it!On my first day of Evicerate... This **** feels amazing!!! Burn?
OG... I traded Smolder for it haha I'm no ***** lolOG or Smolder? Honestly in the winter I don't notice the burn near as much with OG. I actually prefer OG, but I know many prefer the lessened scorch of Smolder. It's also one of those things that the body adjusts to very quickly. After a week on OG the burn is pretty mild. Weirdly it burns the most in the shower as you wash off, but 5 minutes after that it's completely gone. Definitely keep me posted on your results, I think you'll love it!
Let us know how you like it budI think I'm going to try out the new DermaTherm product very soon. I have used Eviscerate (OG and Smolder) and the original DermaThem so I should be able to tell how well I respond to it.
Will do. I just ordered 2 bottles 5 minutes ago!
You can see pretty solid results from one bottle of Eviscerate or Smolder. The product has been out a few years and this is how most people have ran it, and vast majority of users are satisfied."For best results apply product every day, for at least 12 weeks, while exercising and maintaining a low calorie diet."
So at least 3 bottles?
Isn't true that if you aren't burning up the fat released that it will just go to another place on your body? In other words, It's not magically burning fat... You HAVE to change up your training and diet.
Lol how'd this go?OG... I traded Smolder for it haha I'm no ***** lol
**** haha Ima shower when I get home. Will do
Woah man... Working out on the stuff feels like an intense sunburn haha shower had me sayin ow Hahaha great stuff.. even left me red haLol how'd this go?