first time test cyp user

[mkretz]

I was happy to get bumped to 5g androgel not any 100mg+ amount....but hey, it made a difference....within days I saw an increase in libido. I'm applying the packets to my wrist, (under)forearm, groin area and area between belly button and genitals from hip to hip, and top of feet and neck as well. All those areas are either rich in veins/arteries or are thin skin or both. also applying a few sprays of DMSO to the area.....and I make sure I workout not long after applying...in order to sweat and create better absorption by hydrating the area again (w/o wiping it off of course). I think these methods are working to be honest, I bet I am getting crazy absorption #'s....better than 10%.....

yea....i had heard about dmso and thought of usin it when on el but i didnt know where to get it, u are prolly ettin alot of test with all that stuff u are doin....keep it up!!!! makes it cheaper lol , thats yi stopped the gel, too damn expensive, insurance stopped covering it

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

yea....i had heard about dmso and thought of usin it when on el but i didnt know where to get it, u are prolly ettin alot of test with all that stuff u are doin....keep it up!!!! makes it cheaper lol , thats yi stopped the gel, too damn expensive, insurance stopped covering it

DMSO is super easy to get....its used by "horse people" so its all over ebay and all those type sites. I got a big ass bottle of it and put a random spray top on it so it sprays out. Luckily my insurance covers androgel...not 1.62% only 1% and I think 5g might be max, not sure yet. but so far so good with the insurance, its like 6-7 bucks a month. you're better off with the 100mg or more per week, at least you KNOW what you are getting lol. mine is a crapshoot.

 

[mkretz]

yea but i bet ur gettin alot lol....i notic with the injections i et a really warm feelin all oer rht after and then my asss cheek hurts tsometimes for days.......dont really like that part, does it matter when i inject? morning? night?

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

yea but i bet ur gettin alot lol....i notic with the injections i et a really warm feelin all oer rht after and then my asss cheek hurts tsometimes for days.......dont really like that part, does it matter when i inject? morning? night?

no not really....what matters is that you space the shots 7 days apart for best results (or pin twice, same day each time, per week...You are like me and won't do this though lol).....but yeah, I get soreness from test shots, not just prop either....from pharma grade test enanthate/cyp too. As you say I'm sore for DAYS and it hurts too. Not sure if after months it would "go away"? usually cycles are for 2-3 months you know? You might be sensitive like I am, If I take prop? OMIGOD.....INTENSE pain for DAYS AND DAYS! weeks even lol. I got an old vial of QV prop here...looks like 6-7 cc left in it....probably should shoot it up for a few weeks for a "boost" .....

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

Now we got Kretzy back....and lboston disappears! WTF? Can I ever just have "all my people" here at once with nobody disappearing? LOL

 

[howwedo107]

no not really....what matters is that you space the shots 7 days apart for best results (or pin twice, same day each time, per week...You are like me and won't do this though lol).....but yeah, I get soreness from test shots, not just prop either....from pharma grade test enanthate/cyp too. As you say I'm sore for DAYS and it hurts too. Not sure if after months it would "go away"? usually cycles are for 2-3 months you know? You might be sensitive like I am, If I take prop? OMIGOD.....INTENSE pain for DAYS AND DAYS! weeks even lol. I got an old vial of QV prop here...looks like 6-7 cc left in it....probably should shoot it up for a few weeks for a "boost" .....

Trt is 7 days apart correct? And what's the average dose of that?

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

Trt is 7 days apart correct? And what's the average dose of that?

standard dosage would be 100mg per week, if you got a cool doc? 200mg per week. Some idiot doctors prescribe 100mg every 2 weeks or even 100mg per month LOL. That would be a no go for me, give me fcking androgel vrs 100mg once or twice a month

 

[howwedo107]

standard dosage would be 100mg per week, if you got a cool doc? 200mg per week. Some idiot doctors prescribe 100mg every 2 weeks or even 100mg per month LOL. That would be a no go for me, give me fcking androgel vrs 100mg once or twice a month

Nice in thinking of cruising on 200mg after my next cycle

 

[mkretz]

i go to the oc next monday to see what my levels are at, very interested to see..... i inject 100mgs a week btw

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

Nice in thinking of cruising on 200mg after my next cycle

yeah, 100-200mg is a great dosage....only thing is that your still so young, I wouldn't want to F up my HPTA at your age. But if you really want to do it, that is a perfect amount of test...

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

i go to the oc next monday to see what my levels are at, very interested to see..... i inject 100mgs a week btw

I put off my next hormone panel for 2 1/2 months....got a cycle coming up in the next two weeks, 8 weeker I've been planning forever...so I will not postpone it any longer. They agreed to test me in a few months though, so that is cool. I'll be stuck at 5g androgel for that period, but with my methods of application and supplementing AH/dermacrine/divanil I think my test will be pretty high for these 2-3 months...curious to see what 5g androgel at 3 months (with my additions) will yield for total test #'s....makes me want to test next month ....

 

[lboston]

Now we got Kretzy back....and lboston disappears! WTF? Can I ever just have "all my people" here at once with nobody disappearing? LOL

Lol-I'm here man. Had to sleep. I'm a school teacher; can't be going in sleep drunk--the kids can sense weakness!

 

[lboston]

yeah, 100-200mg is a great dosage....only thing is that your still so young, I wouldn't want to F up my HPTA at your age. But if you really want to do it, that is a perfect amount of test...

I agree with WBird on this man. I'm on TRT at 27 not by choice. I had levels of 172 ng/dl without ever touching a PH or anabolic substance. I had high dose chemotherapy at a very young age that was more than likely my problem.
I'd much rather have natural test levels at your age--if you are planning on having a family anyway.
I was fortunate enough to get my wife pregnant three times (1 miscarriage, 1 birth, and 1 on the way) with my natural low levels.
Now for me, TRT had the possible added benefi of birth control!

 

[mkretz]

alrighty boys heres the update we have all been waiting for!........test levels either 700 or 900 doctor siad boht numbers but i was just too excited. Pretty sure it was 900 though!!!! feelin good, muscle is going up so im feelin awsome!!!

 

[MrMarc]

alrighty boys heres the update we have all been waiting for!........test levels either 700 or 900 doctor siad boht numbers but i was just too excited. Pretty sure it was 900 though!!!! feelin good, muscle is going up so im feelin awsome!!!

Congrats

 

[DJBeanPole]

Nice kretz!

I saw my doctor last week and told him what was up. Getting blood drawn in the AM after I get off work. I showed him some of the PrivateMDLabs stuff I have from around April/May and he said that just looking at Total Test by itself didn't give him enough information so I'm getting a Free+Total drawn... he also wanted to look at some other hormones so I guess that'll all be getting done in the morning as well. Interested to see what comes from it.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

Man I'd LOVE to see 800's or so on the gel.....would be like a dream .....good job kretz. :biggthumpup:

 

[mkretz]

Nice kretz!

I saw my doctor last week and told him what was up. Getting blood drawn in the AM after I get off work. I showed him some of the PrivateMDLabs stuff I have from around April/May and he said that just looking at Total Test by itself didn't give him enough information so I'm getting a Free+Total drawn... he also wanted to look at some other hormones so I guess that'll all be getting done in the morning as well. Interested to see what comes from it.

keep us updated for sure, interested to see what your numbers look like

 

[mkretz]

Man I'd LOVE to see 800's or so on the gel.....would be like a dream .....good job kretz. :biggthumpup:

that woudl be nuts lol however when iw as megadosing the gel i got to 800 so with your delivery system you got goin its possible!

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

that woudl be nuts lol however when iw as megadosing the gel i got to 800 so with your delivery system you got goin its possible!

thanks man.....I know you like my "world famous" super-duper delivery system lol don't forget about my multi-pronged HRT protocol that addresses all hormones....

 

[DJBeanPole]

keep us updated for sure, interested to see what your numbers look like

Will do sir!

 

[superbeast668]

yeah, 100-200mg is a great dosage....only thing is that your still so young, I wouldn't want to F up my HPTA at your age. But if you really want to do it, that is a perfect amount of test...

i'd like to see studies of prolonged cruising at low dose test like that. I'm sure the hpta can recover with a strong pct.

 

[DJBeanPole]

Blood drawn. Now I just sit and wait :nervous:

 

[mkretz]

i'd like to see studies of prolonged cruising at low dose test like that. I'm sure the hpta can recover with a strong pct.

i was on hrt for over a year and trie to restart with clomid with no luck, what stronger type of pct would u do?

 

[DJBeanPole]

No word from my doc yet but I already know the test results

Free Test: 53 (range 47-101... or something... can't quite remember the ranges)
Total Test: 253 (range 350-1100)

So... guess we'll see what my doc wants to do.

 

[MrMarc]

No word from my doc yet but I already know the test results

Free Test: 53 (range 47-101... or something... can't quite remember the ranges)
Total Test: 253 (range 350-1100)

So... guess we'll see what my doc wants to do.

He will say sniff some crack

 

[mkretz]

iknow what he better say or else hes gonna get smacked! g/l man, when do u see him?

 

[DJBeanPole]

iknow what he better say or else hes gonna get smacked! g/l man, when do u see him?

Not sure. Going to have to call Monday and see whats up. Either him or at least an endo reference.

 

[mkretz]

if u see an endo im sure ull get something...what are u hoping for?

 

[Gerbil]

I just started pinning IGF and I used to absolutely hate needles. I was shaky and sweating buckets and then I realized I was trying to push the syringe into me (the needle was already all the way in without me knowing)....... lol

Hahaha hey give him a break first injection is nerve wracking... I remember I was very very shaky first injection, start to perspire more, just strange. Anyways yeah that low test is nothing

 

[DJBeanPole]

if u see an endo im sure ull get something...what are u hoping for?

I'm not sure actually. I don't even know what to expect with those kinds numbers nor do I know what the appropriate interventions are... test cyp?

 

[mkretz]

depends on teh doc, and ur insurance, alot seem to be iving androgel, but it is very expensive

 

[MrMarc]

i was on hrt for over a year and trie to restart with clomid with no luck, what stronger type of pct would u do?

I don't think there really is a thing as a stronger PCT, to me a proper PCT is a proper PCT hope that make sense. I would love to see you try this when you get some money.

Nova 40/40/20/20
Test Powerd by usplabs, start same time you do nolva, excellent DAA product with lots of other benfits, I would say this is the best DAA on the market.
Adex: Start second week at 1mg EOD for 1 week to get bloods sasturated then .5mg EOD till done
Reduce XT at the recommed does starting the thrid week use till done.

 

[DJBeanPole]

No word from my doc yet but I already know the test results

Free Test: 53 (range 47-101... or something... can't quite remember the ranges)
Total Test: 253 (range 350-1100)

So... guess we'll see what my doc wants to do.

My doc said because my free test was normal that I was normal. No hypogonadism. Dafuq? Getting a second opinion today.

 

[mkretz]

in a way i uess that makes sense cuz u can only use free test....u could have total test of 1000 but ur free test is low and have issues.....but sitll, i think you could get somethin

 

[DJBeanPole]

in a way i uess that makes sense cuz u can only use free test....u could have total test of 1000 but ur free test is low and have issues.....but sitll, i think you could get somethin

2nd opinion... doc said for sure its Low-T. Was concerned a guy my age had such a low number and had been consistently that way (as far back as spring). Asked if I had ever taken any anabolics before, which is a firm no. Wants to try HCG for 2 weeks and see if I respond. If yes, then 2 more weeks adding Clomid as well. If not, then possibly TRT.

Need to do more research on HCG since I had barely read up on it before I make a decision.

 

[MrMarc]

2nd opinion... doc said for sure its Low-T. Was concerned a guy my age had such a low number and had been consistently that way (as far back as spring). Asked if I had ever taken any anabolics before, which is a firm no. Wants to try HCG for 2 weeks and see if I respond. If yes, then 2 more weeks adding Clomid as well. If not, then possibly TRT.

Need to do more research on HCG since I had barely read up on it before I make a decision.

How much HCG, Did he say?

 

[DJBeanPole]

How much HCG, Did he say?

Dammit I can't remember off the top of my head and I already turned the script in to the pharmacy. I know it was 7 doses, every other day but I can't for the life of me remember what was written down on the paper. I saw 1000 but I'm not sure what measurement that was in. UIs? Not sure

 

[mkretz]

i always wanted to try hcg when i came off trt but my endo always jsut said it was too expensive :-( i wonder if it would work

 

[lboston]

So, where is Warbird??

 

[mkretz]

o no we lost him!!!!

 

[kisaj]

I do 125mg every 6 days and that brings my test to the mid 700s the day before injection. This last time I had great sleep the whole week before testing and actually came in at 795. It's the perfect amount for me.

 

[lboston]

I do 125mg every 6 days and that brings my test to the mid 700s the day before injection. This last time I had great sleep the whole week before testing and actually came in at 795. It's the perfect amount for me.

That is nice. Ever had it tested couple days after injection?

 

[mkretz]

I do 125mg every 6 days and that brings my test to the mid 700s the day before injection. This last time I had great sleep the whole week before testing and actually came in at 795. It's the perfect amount for me.

is that test or hcg?

 

[lboston]

is that test or hcg?

Test

 

[mkretz]

nice....mine was 900 3 days after injection i wonder how low it goes? and also how high it is the day after.........

 

[mkretz]

i doubt mine is 795 after 6-7 days, i inject once a week

 

[v4lu3s]

I inject 100mg every 7 days. I always test right before injecting. Last test was 491 total (scale 280-1000) and 15 free (scale 8.7-25).

 

[kisaj]

That is nice. Ever had it tested couple days after injection?

I haven't. I am interested, but just going by seat of the pants testing I have to guess it is in the 1300 range. I'm an animal in the gym for 2-4 days after injection, and I imagine to still be in the high 700s, 6 days later, it has to be in that area.

An interesting note is that twice that I have gone on a big bender (once in Vegas for a weekend and another time just had a lot of friends in town) and got tested, I was in the 500s. So it had a big impact.

 

[mkretz]

so i was feeling my chest today and noticed what felt kind liek alump but also felt kind like fat but i can kinda move it around and it does hrt a lil to push on it like a knot in a muscle...is this gyno? does gyno always hurt? anyone with eperience with gyno? im worried