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Hey guys i was wondering if anyone knew why dymethazine was taken off the market?
Any info is appreciated, thanks.
Any info is appreciated, thanks.
turns out it was just superdrol anywayHey guys i was wondering if anyone knew why dymethazine was taken off the market?
Any info is appreciated, thanks.
We never saw any tests that said that... wasn't that list a suspect list used for the BB.com raid, not any actual test results?turns out it was just superdrol anyway
there was a suspect list for why the went after each product because when the FDA tested the compound thats what it tested to be and dymeth was tested by FDA labs to be SDWe never saw any tests that said that... wasn't that list a suspect list used for the BB.com raid, not any actual test results?
They had been buying products and testing them over a period of time not just what the confiscated during the raids.the test came out too fast for it to be a thourough (sp) test. btw.
They had been testing the products for some time now. It didn't just start the day before the post started popping up...i've used plain sd, and dymeth, they are not the same.
dymeth was not just sd. it was different. and not in a better way either.
I feel the test just showed the parent compound. and didn't differentiate between the two molecules being boded.
the test came out too fast for it to be a thourough (sp) test. btw.
same FDA called hdrol turinabol lolThey had been testing the products for some time now. It didn't just start the day before the post started popping up...
Also, it could have been just SD and under dosed. Perhaps that's the reason why you felt more "effects" on SD vs dymeth
I wouldn't put it past anyone to say it was an under dosed version.
I read a few log that said it was great and many that said it was trash...
I agree if in fact that is what was in dymeth in actuality. For all that we know it was just good old sd or a sugar pill (not). Not throwing punches at iforce but, honestly, I have come to be skeptical of many now a days.I think a lot of the testing done is mass spec which should report the molecular weight of the compound, dymeth should report a value twice as high as SD, so there should be an unmistakable difference.
That said i also noticed that the FDA called halodrol turinabol even though it's not the same... I don't think Tbol has the chlorine on it... not sure but the structures are different...
I guess we need to know wtf the fda did for their testing.
Your saying that it was stronger in sides or stronger in strength and weight department?well, I know i have no lab at my place, so the only way of knowing what is in things is to compare them to other things.
dz gave me rapid gains in weight/strength while I was doing intense cardio for my strength and condiiton class 3 days a week, and then moderate cardio on off days. I was also on a low/moderate carb/ high protein diet. (and was still able to keep up in the class. got an A)
but the first day of taking dz, my bp jumped and my vision got blurry, which i've only noticed from using illegal aas, or combing ds's.
I also got sick as sh*t 2nd week into pct and that 10lbs, was gone.
I bought dz when it first was released, like, the first few days. so if I got any batch, it was the first.
no, what I used wasn't under dosed sd. 30mgs of sd is better than what I used. but not as strong, and sides on this were apparent, where on sd, they are zero.
like I said, I'd like to be able to go on a bulk diet, and be prepared for the drop in immune function, and give dimeth another run someday. but then again, there is a reason this steroid was left behind and forgotten...
J, was it worse anabolically or androgenicallyi've used plain sd, and dymeth, they are not the same.
dymeth was not just sd. it was different. and not in a better way either.
I feel the test just showed the parent compound. and didn't differentiate between the two molecules being boded.
the test came out too fast for it to be a thourough (sp) test. btw.
Oh, damn, somebody is ready for jail if the dea is in on it now. I thought it was just the fda. Usually the dea only steps in when it's time to cuff'em and stuff'em, trial and anal inspection.I have been "lurking" for a while on AM reading posts, so plz don't flame me when you see "Posts: 1".
I was just flipping through the 9th edition of Anabolics by Llyewynn or whatever his name is (when I should have been teleworking-just arrived today-couldn't resistuttahere and they are clearly two different compounds and that double azide bridge bond crap description on BB.com and elsewhere (before they took the page down) was actually accurate-a rarity in the supp industry of course.
Dimethazine/Roxilon was actually a prescription steroid (with an azide bridge between two methyldrostanolone molecules) for a while in a few countries before being discontinued for lack of success. Its androgenic rating (relative to methyltest) is 96 and and its anabolic rating is 210.
Superdrol was never commercially marketed and is the stronger of the two it seems (though they are both very harsh on the liver based on the literature-I'll try my bottle in the future and report back). Sdrol's numbers (same reference chem) are androgenic:20 and anabolic: 400.
The string of posts about the DEA's testing accuracy is full of good points because Halodrol-50 and Promagnon-25 and Clostebol and Turinabol are 4 distinct steroids. Halodrol-50 apparently exerts most of its effects without conversion to Turinabol which is though to be minimal, but they are pretty similar in profile. I think the same is true for Clostebol and Promagnon. The molecular differences are so minor that the test results were probably legitimately inaccurate.
is this a combo of SD and DMZ?
Yes, 10mg of each, and the feedback has been amazing!is this a combo of SD and DMZ?
sounds promising, but have you had any bloods done on the toxicity? im tempted but also worried about stacking 2 methylsYes, 10mg of each, and the feedback has been amazing!
yes, so far no issues we have heard, of course we also created this product and recommend using it with our pro-anabolics: http://www.ironmaglabs.com/advanced-cycle-support.phpsounds promising, but have you had any bloods done on the toxicity? im tempted but also worried about stacking 2 methyls
everyone so far that has used Super-DMZ Rx would beg to differ with you, I have yet to see 1 negative comment or review.dimethazine from my experience is a harsh compound (at 30mg, not so much at 20). I feel its best when ran with an aromatizable compound. I really liked it with methoxygonadiene (max lmg).
I dont think stacking it with superdrol is the best idea, maybe something like pro dht, or 4-dhea would be better.
What do you think of the idea of running D-zine at 30mg with M1,4add at 90mg and stano-drol at 500 for 5 weeks? I am basically subbing the m1,4 for where people commonly use m-lmg because I have had prolactin issues before and I wan't to avoid compounds known to aggravate that. Additionally I have heard that m1,4add is much milder on the liver than most methyls, so I think with moderate doses of each and solid liver support I would be fine.dimethazine from my experience is a harsh compound (at 30mg, not so much at 20). I feel its best when ran with an aromatizable compound. I really liked it with methoxygonadiene (max lmg).
I dont think stacking it with superdrol is the best idea, maybe something like pro dht, or 4-dhea would be better.
what is it that makes them complementary/synergistic?I understand. and with the way things are going, you guys (sup comp) aren't given much room to mix match like you could.
sd & dimeth do complement each other, and so users will have excellent results, most likely better than if either ran solo. so no debate there.
It's been banned in the UK since 1996.Dymethazine banned?
Yes, LMG/Dzine gets my :usa2:dimethazine from my experience is a harsh compound (at 30mg, not so much at 20). I feel its best when ran with an aromatizable compound. I really liked it with methoxygonadiene (max lmg).
I dont think stacking it with superdrol is the best idea, maybe something like pro dht, or 4-dhea would be better.
I would say to pick either stanodrol or dimethazine to go with the m14add.What do you think of the idea of running D-zine at 30mg with M1,4add at 90mg and stano-drol at 500 for 5 weeks? I am basically subbing the m1,4 for where people commonly use m-lmg because I have had prolactin issues before and I wan't to avoid compounds known to aggravate that. Additionally I have heard that m1,4add is much milder on the liver than most methyls, so I think with moderate doses of each and solid liver support I would be fine.
superdrol is a highly anabolic compound, with a low androgenic effect.what is it that makes them complementary/synergistic?
when did you guys add in the superdrol? Before, it was just dimethazine.
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