AZ Heating Up With Andro Rx

[MrBigPR]

How did you find that Nutrex sample? Didn't do smack for me.

 

[AZMIDLYF]

How did you find that Nutrex sample? Didn't do smack for me.

The Ignite? It didn't stim me out but it was very thermogenic....sweat like hell with it! Have you ever used Diesel's Ready4War pre w/o stim Big? The only thing I don't like about it is the pregnenolone.

 

[metroba]

Usually I go 1 week but I have taken it to 2 before. It depends on how worn out you feel. One time I did nothing for a week...no weights or cardio. My usual cruise is just doing my typical warm ups I would do before going to my heavy set. It is just to let the body restore itself.....just cruise bubba!!

ah makes sense.

Day 5 PCT:

Still up and down with the emotions. Fuse seems alot shorter as well. Mama says I'm like a caged animal right now. I just told her I was very hormonal right now...
Anyway, I did manage to get a workout in today:

Warmed up with the strength AB routine. I am still doing higher rep sets.
Triceps: CGBP Warm up sets and then did 3 sets with 1 minute rest between. 205*20-10-8. My stamina or recovery sucks now. Rested another minute and then did seated incline overhead rope extensions with 50 for 20 reps. DC stretch after.
Back Width: Wide Grip pulldowns in the same 3 set format. 130*15-10-10. Not as many reps as I wanted that's for sure. DC hanging stretch after.
Back Thick: Seated Neutral Grip pull, 3 sets again. 140*20-15-12

Followed this up with hypers of 3x12 with a 35lb plate. I tried a sample of Cytogenix Cytonox pre w/o today and I don't think it will be in my next cart. Not much happened. I will ride in the morning tomorrow and possibly get one in on Sunday to ease some of this attitude I have. Have a great weekend guys and enjoy Sunday Dads!

Just so I understand...are those #s your working sets after the warmups or are they just straight sets?

 

[thundergod]

Have you ever used Diesel's Ready4War pre w/o stim Big? The only thing I don't like about it is the pregnenolone.

I've used Diesel's Raw Test before and I enjoyed it. It has pregnenolone in it as well.
Why do you not like the pregnenolone? I've read where lots of people love it.
I thought pregnenolone is good for us. It's like a parent hormone. Sort of along the lines of DHEA.
I need to study up on the preg some more. I can get it cheap through a vitamin company. I'm just about to place an order for some natty test boosting/PCT supps. Time to stock up!!

 

[AZMIDLYF]

Met, those are 3 seperate straight sets with a minute rest between them after I have done my warm up sets. Just changing things up for a little rest of the joints...lighter weight/higher reps.

TG, I have read where it converts to DHEA and then to testosterone, and possibly to DHT or progesterone. There are also chances of heart irregularities and palpitations from doses as low as 10mg. I was more curious as to why it would be in a pre w/o stim.

 

[metroba]

Met, those are 3 seperate straight sets with a minute rest between them after I have done my warm up sets. Just changing things up for a little rest of the joints...lighter weight/higher reps.

Gotcha..thanks for explaining

 

[AZMIDLYF]

Day 8 PCT:
I feel like I am starting to get things back to normal now. I also started running the Formex today at 50mg. Let's see how T-911 and Formex work together. Yesterday I fell off the wagon big time meal wise. Hell, I even ate quiche(momma made me brunch). I also hammered some brownies later in the day that my daughter baked for me. It was awesome!! Oh, I got a Crockpot for Papa's day. Made the best 5lb roast with it last night. Can't wait to make more meals in that puppy.

Workout: Warmed up with my endurance AB routine
Biceps: Standing cable curls: Warm ups and then did 3 sets with a 1 minute break between 70*15-12-10.
Forearms: DB Hammers straight set 45-20. DC stretch after.
Calves: Seated Plate load: Warm up and did 170*25. This was rest paused thru-out. I will keep pushing this weight up the rep range. DC stretch after.
Quads: BB squats: Warm ups and just did one set 260*20. DC stretch after.

I just ordered the sample bottle of Glycobol today to see how I react to it. Can't let you guys have all the fun! All the best...AZ

 

[GMG760]

Damn your lady must be loving you with the Torem, T911, and Formex!!!

I would be doing the humpty dance all night long!

 

[AZMIDLYF]

Damn your lady must be loving you with the Torem, T911, and Formex!!!

I would be doing the humpty dance all night long!

I actually have lagged a little in that department right now. Hoping the Formex gets things thumping again..

 

[MrBigPR]

Sounds like a good father's day AZ! Crockpots rock. Can't wait to be back :dance:

 

[GMG760]

I actually have lagged a little in that department right now. Hoping the Formex gets things thumping again..

Give it a week. Or a few nights of torem at 120mg...

 

[AZMIDLYF]

Give it a week. Or a few nights of torem at 120mg...

Eh, she needs to cruise for a bit after my Andro blast! hehheh
Yeah Big...felt like a king yesterday. My son wrote me a card that turned me into a blubbering mess.

 

[thundergod]

Yeah Big...felt like a king yesterday. My son wrote me a card that turned me into a blubbering mess.

My daughter (she's 21) did the same for me. I was crying like a baby. It's such a blessing to be a daddy.

You're a wonderful role model for your children AZ!!! Keep up all your good works. :You_Rock_Emoticon:

 

[AZMIDLYF]

Thanks TG...it really is a Blessing!

 

[AZMIDLYF]

Day 10 PCT

Still rolling here guys. Couple more days of Torem at 60mg and then down to 30. The Formex has cleaned me up tremendously...I was bloating a little and now have leaned up. I do think it has degraded my sleep alot. I am up twice a night now. Libido has gone south on me as well. It was never too high to begin with when not on the 1-Andro....I am 50 and it is on it's way down. The T-911 has helped again with my recovery from the w/o. It also could be attributed to the PP EndoAmp Max I take. I am not sure how much longer this log will run....seems to have run it's course..

Workout: Rotator exersises for warm up
Shoulders: BB sitting military: Warm up sets and then 3 sets with 1 minute rest between...150*20-17-9. Tanked on the last set.
Chest: Incline BB: Warm up sets and then 3 sets with 1 minute between: 185*10-8-6. DC stretch with 45s for 90 seconds.
Lateral Raises: DB 15-20,25-10, then a triple drop set 35-10...25-10...15-20
Rear Raises: 15-20,20-10, then a double drop set 25-10...15-25.
Traps: DB I DC set these 95-20-10-8. Shoulder stretch after.

All the best guys...AZ

 

[TimberLakers]

Nice seated Military... I'm going to work hard at that over the next 3 months.

Incline BB seems light for you?

 

[AZMIDLYF]

Nice seated Military... I'm going to work hard at that over the next 3 months.

Incline BB seems light for you?[/QUOTE]

The shoulders were spent and I am not pushing too heavy right now. The joints are complaining.

 

[thundergod]

Libido has gone south on me as well. It was never too high to begin with when not on the 1-Andro....I am 50 and it is on it's way down.

All the best guys...AZ

This is one reason that I know the 1-Andro won't be your first and last PH run. It's like self-prescribing HRT for us older guys.

If my libido ever starts to suffer, I'm heading straight to a wellness/HRT doctor I know, get the bloodwork done, and let her put me on Testosterone shots!!!

But I hope that holds off a while longer. It's all good in the libido-hood so far!!!! :hump::yeah:

 

[kjkriston]

Still looking strong man. I have also changed the workout for more volume and some decreased weight to let the joints heal a bit. Not a lot of drop but some.

 

[Nole1]

Looking good AZ - I'm basically seeing/feeling the same things you are. Joints are liking the fact that I dropped weights and added reps to give them a break.

 

[AZMIDLYF]

This is one reason that I know the 1-Andro won't be your first and last PH run. It's like self-prescribing HRT for us older guys.

If my libido ever starts to suffer, I'm heading straight to a wellness/HRT doctor I know, get the bloodwork done, and let her put me on Testosterone shots!!!

But I hope that holds off a while longer. It's all good in the libido-hood so far!!!! :hump::yeah:

The closer I got to 50...the more I noticed the drop. I had my blood work done and I was on the borderline low side for my test. I did a bottle of PP's Dermacrine awhile back that had me feeling like a 20 something again. I will probably be playing with that a little more.

Still looking strong man. I have also changed the workout for more volume and some decreased weight to let the joints heal a bit. Not a lot of drop but some.

Looking good AZ - I'm basically seeing/feeling the same things you are. Joints are liking the fact that I dropped weights and added reps to give them a break.

I am liking the decreased weights as well lately. I will cruise like this for the rest of my PCT and then I am going to try a bulk run. I just want to be tipping the scales at what you guys are!!
Hey Noles...have a great time in Sin City bubba!!

 

[hman85]

The closer I got to 50...the more I noticed the drop. I had my blood work done and I was on the borderline low side for my test. I did a bottle of PP's Dermacrine awhile back that had me feeling like a 20 something again. I will probably be playing with that a little more.





I am liking the decreased weights as well lately. I will cruise like this for the rest of my PCT and then I am going to try a bulk run. I just want to be tipping the scales at what you guys are!!
Hey Noles...have a great time in Sin City bubba!!

190? :dunno:

 

[AZMIDLYF]

No Hman...I want to be rocking the 225-230 range but at my present BF%!!

 

[hman85]

No Hman...I want to be rocking the 225-230 range but at my present BF%!!

I know I kid I kid. whats the bf sitting at right now?

 

[AZMIDLYF]

I would say about 10%

 

[kjkriston]

I am def. planning a run of either Epi or SD in the late summer. TRUE lean bulk this time. We will see though. SD makes me feel like crap eventually, EPI makes me feel like a god!

 

[AZMIDLYF]

Sounds like Epi would be the winner here! I don't read many good things about SD.

 

[MrBigPR]

Sd could be good at a quick 2 week burst

 

[AE14]

I am def. planning a run of either Epi or SD in the late summer. TRUE lean bulk this time. We will see though. SD makes me feel like crap eventually, EPI makes me feel like a god!

I get the same feelings from them. I love epi/havoc. I have a bottle stashed away right now with some 1andro. Will be running them together after I finish my M1DB. Psyched as all hell

 

[suncloud]

funny, none of the anabolics leave me feeling "good" except tren.

 

[AZMIDLYF]

Food is the best feel good anabolic I know!

 

[kjkriston]

Epi @ 40mg for 45 days is the best cycle ever. Over all true AS as well. A true test run is a close second.

 

[thundergod]

Epi @ 40mg for 45 days is the best cycle ever. Over all true AS as well. A true test run is a close second.

At the beginning of this last January, I hit up 6 weeks of Epi @ 60 mg. per day along with 30 mg. of D-Bol daily.

Best cycle I've ever done!! Strength ventured into the freaky zone!!!

 

[AE14]

I have gone to 60 once, was kinda crazy. Strenth was outrageous though

 

[kjkriston]

I can handle 50mg and actually prefer it but I get wicked back pumps. That makes it about impossible to run any real distance, so thats not so good when I am not out right bulking.

 

[MrBigPR]

:thinking: Thanks for the info :run:

 

[kjkriston]

:thinking: Thanks for the info :run:

I dont understand your lack of understanding?:sad3:

 

[ABNRanger]

How does this compare to EPI? Has anyone used the two, that can make a comparison?

 

[GMG760]

How does this compare to EPI? Has anyone used the two, that can make a comparison?

Timber has.

 

[TimberLakers]

What kind of comparisons are you looking for? I think both compounds are great - really depends on what you're looking to achieve from your cycle.

 

[ABNRanger]

Well I used Epi before, and I liked it (gained a ton of actually). Blew up to 230 from 210. I believe some of it was "bad" weight, I tried to eat right, but went about it the wrong way. I ate a lot of peanut butter (skippy), string cheese, I was drinking ON's Serious Mass 4 times day. Strength wise, I got really strong, and my workouts were really intense (hmm, hind sight is 20/20 lol). I don't mind running Epi again, just came across this Andro thread, and liked the feedback, so I thought I might give it a try. Are the gains comparative, or should I expect more or less from Andro than Epi?

 

[TimberLakers]

Epi isn't really thought of as a great bulking compound... but is pretty serious in the strength department.

1-Andro is a pretty solid compound in both respects (strength and size)...

It's really going to boil down to how serious of a cycle you want to run. The epi would require more on the support end, and a more lengthy PCT... but I believe you would have much better results from epi given the right diet this time around.

Plus, sounds like you respond really well to it anyway, why mess with what works?

 

[ABNRanger]

I know huh, but I am one for change, so if andro offers the best of both worlds then I would like to try it, and see how it works. The only deterence is the cost of Andro vs Epi. Seems like I need three bottles of 1-Andro for a good cycle, vs Epi that I only needed one and a half when ran at 40mg max. How many bottles did you go thru? My only neg with Epi was the back pumps (well the first time anyway). My second cycle, I did not really workout due to shoulder injury, plus I went on vacation after the first week, so nut much gains. I did increase my taurine so I did not have any back pumps at all. How are the back pumps on 1-Andro?

 

[TimberLakers]

Back pumps are there, but I always negate that with Taurine. I view those as a non issue really.

1-Andro was like sleep in a bottle though. Very lethargic... I ran @600 for 2 weeks, then @800 for 4 weeks... I think I tore through almost 4 bottles, but they were free - otherwise I would have probably just ran three.

Make sure you factor the cycle support for epi into your cost structure... otherwise I'm sure you'll be happy with either cycle. I did log the 1-Andro w/ a final review in case you're interested. There are before and after pics as well.

 

[GMG760]

The new UTT 1-AD should only require a bottle and a half to run a full 6 week cycle.

 

[TimberLakers]

The new UTT 1-AD should only require a bottle and a half to run a full 6 week cycle.

True, the sublingual application is supposed to have much better bioavailability... Oral capsules are something like 6 to 8%. UTT being 25-30% IIRC.

 

[AZMIDLYF]

The 1-Andro was great but needs to be run at 800mg e/d in my opinion and that becomes cost prohibitive unless a sale happens. The lethargy was deffinitely present and I had to use some stims to push through it. Like G said, there are other options available you can look into. I haven't used Epi so I can't comment on that. It sounds like it agreed with you before! Best of luck in whatever you decide ABN...

 

[ABNRanger]

Who or what is UTT? Is that another manufacturer of 1- Andro? From the few comments here on it, it seems to offer better results than the Andro from IL because of the way ot delivers sublingually. Yeah, that Epi is looking better by the posts, lol (price wise). I would lke some more info on UTT, then I will make a decision if to try the UTT or go back to EPI. Off topic: I have been taking Mass FX and Hx2 for about three weeks, now. Can I jump right into a cycle, or should I take some time off? After cycle, I will go back to the mass fx and hx2 during pct.

 

[TimberLakers]

Who or what is UTT? Is that another manufacturer of 1- Andro? From the few comments here on it, it seems to offer better results than the Andro from IL because of the way ot delivers sublingually. Yeah, that Epi is looking better by the posts, lol (price wise). I would lke some more info on UTT, then I will make a decision if to try the UTT or go back to EPI. Off topic: I have been taking Mass FX and Hx2 for about three weeks, now. Can I jump right into a cycle, or should I take some time off? After cycle, I will go back to the mass fx and hx2 during pct.

Just means Under The Tongue (sublingual).

 

[AZMIDLYF]

UTT is an abbreviation for "under the tongue"...ergo sub-lingual. They are the new products by AMS(Advanced Muscle Science). As far as taking time off before starting the new cycle...I would. Let your system stabalize itself and then you will give the new compounds a clean slate.