Bought a couple boxes and am wondering what a good taper on the bronkaid would be. Also Dosing for the CA/CY portion of stack as well...
I'll for sure be looking into the white willow! I have used Y3 before as a yohimbe supp works great. I bought 4 boxes of 60ct online. Waiting on the ship.... I think this should solidify my diet as you said and keep my bf dropping on my bulk if i keep my cardio in check.Whats the max on Bronkaid can u buy anyways? Hey Im on Bronkaid too. I uped my does to 2 now instead of one and seeing a tremendous difference. Hunger pangs.....whats that! lol This seriously keeps ur diet in check for real. But as far as your ? goes I would do 22 for the C and A I do something called White Willow bc its safer for you than the otc Aspirin they have since Asp is derived from Salix Alba which is the white willow but look at Bayer since Bronk is by Bayer but Bayer does tend to use White Willow. I find it better. 81 mg for the A is standard but again I use White Willow standard to 400mg so. The Yu ask I use lipo-6 to stack my Bronk bc it has the right c and the Y is standard. Also has Synephrine too which is good for controlling hunger. Right now im trying to see if another product than Lipo-6 is stronger to stack with the Bronkaid but those are my 2 cents in lol. Any questions just hit me up. I been on the stack for 2 weeks now.
I like the sound of that! I just need to annihilate my adipose stores while im bulking. I'm sick of hovering at about 12% right now. I want my crazy cuts already so i can gauge my future gains a little betterThat's a good mentality to have. Ephedrine is pretty potent. I'm a stim junkie as well and my first ECY dose hit me pretty hard and was very long lasting.
Yup I ended up having to go to walmart but yeah around 10 a box for the 60 ct. that are 25 mg ephedrine sulfate8-10$ for a box of 60
Agreed!I got the whole stack online at drugstore.com. I'm lazy.
Bronk (60 caps): $11.49
Caffeine (100 tabs): $6.49
Yohimbe: (135 caps): $10.99
Total: $28.97
Getting ripped: PRICELESS
Had to scan and email my driver's license, though. But now that they have it on file, I can order whenever.
Yeah, I'm not worried about it. Just a procedural thing to keep the feds happy.Agreed!
And as for the drivers license, meh they're most likely keeping tabs anyway so this isnt that much of a hastle to get what you need at such convenience
lol u may think im weird but call some cvs but not one you would shop ask for the pharm and ask whats the limit. I called right aid and walgreens today to find prices rite aid has the 25 tabs where cvs and walgreens are 60. Cvs being the cheapest lol. Ephedrine is so good
Whats the max on Bronkaid can u buy anyways? Hey Im on Bronkaid too. I uped my does to 2 now instead of one and seeing a tremendous difference. Hunger pangs.....whats that! lol This seriously keeps ur diet in check for real. But as far as your ? goes I would do 22 for the C and A I do something called White Willow bc its safer for you than the otc Aspirin they have since Asp is derived from Salix Alba which is the white willow but look at Bayer since Bronk is by Bayer but Bayer does tend to use White Willow. I find it better. 81 mg for the A is standard but again I use White Willow standard to 400mg so. The Yu ask I use lipo-6 to stack my Bronk bc it has the right c and the Y is standard. Also has Synephrine too which is good for controlling hunger. Right now im trying to see if another product than Lipo-6 is stronger to stack with the Bronkaid but those are my 2 cents in lol. Any questions just hit me up. I been on the stack for 2 weeks now.
LOLdude, I am trying to read your posts cuz I am sure there is some good information in there but I can't because of your horrible run on sentences and lack of concern for grammar. Its too much of a hassle to decipher it.
All of the good studies I've read on ephedrine (and the internet guru articles that followed) were 25mg Ephedrine + 200mg Caffeine, taken 3 times a day. And yes, start out at 12.5 & 100mg twice a day and work up.Predator gave a suggestion on dosing, anyone else have conflicting advice or just anything additional? I'd like to ensure i get this right
Agreed, the standard protocol is 25mg Ephedrine, 200mg caffeine, 81mg aspirin (baby aspirin). If you have the Ephedrine Sulfate it comes in 25mg tabs so I would probably run it at 25mg E, 200mg C, 81m A (optional) for 2-5 days until you feel comfortable taking it to two doses a day. Then run 2 doses a day for an additional 2-5 days once again until you feel comfortable in taking it to 3 doses a day.All of the good studies I've read on ephedrine (and the internet guru articles that followed) were 25mg Ephedrine + 200mg Caffeine, taken 3 times a day. And yes, start out at 12.5 & 100mg twice a day and work up.
The aspirin is not needed. Personally, I never combine ephedrine & yohimbine, but that's just me.
Also, I think you'll have a very hard time getting cut if you're trying to bulk at the same time. Supps help, but fat loss is all about calorie restriction.
:laugh::lmao::laugh:Agreed! The only think I cant do is E C and Y on an empty stomach. EC is fine, YC is fine but all together... man those powerful stims fxck me up! I learned that lesson the hard way when i was taking lipo 6 and ephedrine together... fxcking threw up on myself while i was driving to the gym... not cool
That's counter-productive. Recomp is possible but it usually requires one to be close to maintenance kcals and still isn't to a huge degree. Stop bulking if your goal is to get lean at the moment.I like the sound of that! I just need to annihilate my adipose stores while im bulking.
The stuff I used to get was standardized to 8%...doesn't it say on the packaging?Okay new question to you guys, not sure if you'll know but whats the conversion of yohimbine to yohimbe? If there are 9mg of yohimbine in a product what would this equivelate in mg of yohimbe itself?
Someone correct me if im wrong...Okay new question to you guys, not sure if you'll know but whats the conversion of yohimbine to yohimbe? If there are 9mg of yohimbine in a product what would this equivelate in mg of yohimbe itself?
That's what you want...9mg yohimbine...When I use yohimbine before my fasted AM cardio I use 10 - 15mg 30 minutes prior..."advanced yohimbine complex 9mg"- (yohimbine HCL, 11-hydroxy yohimbine)
Agreed! And high doses are dangerous and detrimental over long durations of time1) as others said, spring for yohimBINE, not yohimBE. Yohimbe gives people nasty flu like symptoms frequently.
2) the effectiveness of ephedrine has very little to do with its subjective adrenal (stimulant) effect. You need to base your dose off what works in regards to your goals. I, too, enjoy the stim effect but it is not necessary to achieve fat loss. I'd guess 2x15mg per day would work well, one dose in the AM and one at noon maybe. But if you base the fat loss goal dosage on tolerance to the stimulant feeling, you will be up to 2x60mg in no time! Been there done that.
if youre worried about muscle loss looking into leucine or bcaa's.New guy here.
And new to the ECA stack. Just started last sunday. Starting at 12.5E + 200C, 3 times a day. Im starting to build a tolerance and will up my doses to 25mg + 200C 2 times a day starting tomorrow.
Im 6'0 185 with about 18-20% body fat. 2 months ago I was 215lb maybe 30% bf. I have some concerns with the EC stack and muscle loss. So ill be taking the stack about an hour after a meal.
My schedule:
7 am - wake up
730 - Eat breakfast 1 scoop whey isolate + 1/2 cup oatmeal blended.
845 - EC stack
9- weight lift
1030 - 2 scoops whey + 1 large banana + 1 nonfat yogurt
1pm - lunch (300 cal usually low carb/ hi protein)
145pm - EC stack
2pm - cardio
3pm - 1 scoop whey + 1 tbsp pb
6pm - dinner 40 grams protein low carb
9pm - 2 scoops whey.
Im kinda paranoid with the muscle loss. Maybe im dwelling on it too much. And one other reason why Im dosing the stack after a breakfast is because I want it to be more potent right when I hit the weights.
Would appreaciate some feedback. And I hope to learn allot here.
Congratulations on the BMI decline. I hope to achieve similar results over the next few months.New guy here.
And new to the ECA stack. Just started last sunday. Starting at 12.5E + 200C, 3 times a day. Im starting to build a tolerance and will up my doses to 25mg + 200C 2 times a day starting tomorrow.
Im 6'0 185 with about 18-20% body fat. 2 months ago I was 215lb maybe 30% bf. I have some concerns with the EC stack and muscle loss. So ill be taking the stack about an hour after a meal.
My schedule:
7 am - wake up
730 - Eat breakfast 1 scoop whey isolate + 1/2 cup oatmeal blended.
845 - EC stack
9- weight lift
1030 - 2 scoops whey + 1 large banana + 1 nonfat yogurt
1pm - lunch (300 cal usually low carb/ hi protein)
145pm - EC stack
2pm - cardio
3pm - 1 scoop whey + 1 tbsp pb
6pm - dinner 40 grams protein low carb
9pm - 2 scoops whey.
Im kinda paranoid with the muscle loss. Maybe im dwelling on it too much. And one other reason why Im dosing the stack after a breakfast is because I want it to be more potent right when I hit the weights.
Would appreaciate some feedback. And I hope to learn allot here.
Whether this is due to ECA increasing energy (which helps with exercise) and controlling appetite probably can't be accounted for in this or any other feasible study.Astrup also later conducted the first long-term (24 weeks), high sample (180 participants) study on the
efficacy of E + C on obese patients on a 1000 kcal/day diet (10-12), and found that E + C 20 mg/200 mg
three times per day for 24 weeks resulted in weight loss modestly but significantly greater than placebo
(16.6 kg vs. 13.2 kg). Interestingly, this study also demonstrated that E + C dramatically spared muscle
catabolism, and that approximately 85% of the weight loss was due to loss in fat mass, compared with 50%
of weight loss in placebo (10).
I'd be extremely hesitant to continually up the dosage of ECA. Dosing ECA carries risks of heart problems, and getting it through Bronkaid means that you're going to get a ton of Guaifenesin, which exposes you to other risks like kidney stones.Sometimes it doesnt even hit me that hard. Yesterday I got in some in some carbs so I hope my energy level is high today. It usually doesnt hit really hard but does last a good 4 hours. I use to take that much all the time but now I just do it 3-4 times a week. Im just wondering if Im getting used to it and need a little more to feel it.
I would have to agree. I get occasional jitters and some lovely anxiety from just 1 Bronkaid every 4 hours, but it absolutely kills my appetite so I eat only what I need for nutrition.I just started not too long ago. And by doing 1 pill every 4 hours is plenty for me. Infact I cant wait to get off of the EC stack. But the results are amazing.
I dont know how your able to handle so much for so long. I think your running on the dangerous side with that amount.
I would discontinue usage for a few weeks!started taking Bronkaid a few months ago.
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