New Muscle Gainer!

[vika808]

can anyone ans my question

 

[DR.D]

so if i was to take kwik karb and throw some in my Xtend and take this product would that be good before i work out?

I don't see why not, but be advised of likely synergism. I imagine the pumps would be pretty ridiculous (that could be good or bad), not to mention the leucine enhancement.

I rarely use BCAAs pre-w/o anymore. Immediate post-w/o seems to work much better for me.

 

[TexasTitan]

so if i was to take kwik karb and throw some in my Xtend and take this product would that be good before i work out?

Its what I do. Initially to just add flavor to the chalk but I like it a lot in the gym.

 

[DR.D]

I have to admit after hearing Dr D say he uses it before bed I tried it.

It definitely works for me AND I wake up with the muscle all full instead of flat and depleted looking and feeling.

If you wake up thirsty, that may be preventable by drinking a glass of water before bed, or drinking one in the middle of the night if you have to get up for a pit-stop.

You can literally feel it the next morning, huh? Tight and pumped! I love that hardness feeling.

 

[bolt10]

While I have not used Glycobol yet, I will say I much prefer taking my AP or P-slin with a nutrient dense whole food meal than some powdered carbs pre-workout, therefore I bet thats how I would enjoy Glycobol the most. I also take AP with a meal before bed and love how solid I feel upon waking...feedback is looking good on this so far Dr. D I will have to get my hands on some of this to compare :thumbsup:

 

[fieldt76]

I have to admit after hearing Dr D say he uses it before bed I tried it.

It definitely works for me AND I wake up with the muscle all full instead of flat and depleted looking and feeling.

I noticed that this morning too...

 

[subweevil]

Yeah, I've noticed I'm pumped a lot more through out the day, and somewhat in the morning. It does make me thirstier, not just when I'm stacking it, but other times as well. That's not a bad thing either. So far, I'm still getting a great mood/energy rush from it that lasts.

 

[Loki003]

Ordered mine on friday, can't wait to try it out.

 

[Steveoph]

Np does ship to the UK

Petition granted?
Now if we could only get that 1st Class USPS Option sorted out, we'd be golden :borladuck:

 

[hi4611]

i wanna try it

 

[CROWLER]

Yeah, I've noticed I'm pumped a lot more through out the day, and somewhat in the morning. It does make me thirstier, not just when I'm stacking it, but other times as well. That's not a bad thing either. So far, I'm still getting a great mood/energy rush from it that lasts.

When I first started taking it I felt pumped all the time and I thought NO WAY.

I am very skeptical so I over and over I would stop taking it for a week then go back on for a couple days and sure enough it would happen again. Then I thought ok so it works for me but no way it will work on other people.

So I gotta few people to try it didn't tell them what to look for, just to tell me what they noticed. When they all reported back a pumped feeling and a full muscle look even in the AM I KNEW the stuff really worked and finally I was convinced.

 

[Loki003]

You guys are making me way to excited to try this.

 

[subweevil]

Go for it!! You'll notice it easily your first day. I know I did. Granted some of it was the "Got a new supp I gotta try!!" syndrome, but seriously, you'll know it's working. It lives up to it's rep.

 

[chainsaw]

Any opinions of using it on cycle and during PCT?

 

[Kristofer68SS]

Any opinions of using it on cycle and during PCT?

Go for it.......For sure.

 

[chainsaw]

Go for it.......For sure.

I was sure if it was overkill or not, I know alot of androgens act as nutrient partioners. Looks like I will just up the carbs some more.

 

[subweevil]

I can't see why not. Good idea though on upping your carbs, you can always adjust them back down if need be, but if your intent on gaining, they are most likely going to go up anyways.

 

[rkc21]

I've been taking Glycobol now since last Monday, but what's this about taking it before bed you all are posting about? I didn't see that on the instructions. I usually just take 2 in the morning with my meal, then 2 in the afternoon with my meal. I don't take it with my pre-workout meal because I don't have a pre-workout meal and I use a pre-workout supplement instead (usually Animal Pump or White Flood). So is taking 2 before bed time more beneficial (on an empty stomach?) and then cancelling one of the earlier servings?

 

[CROWLER]

Taking before bed is something Dr D came up with while experimenting with it.

I believe he takes it on an empty stomach. I take 2 before bed but then again my stomach is never empty

It really helps me sleep and feels like my muscles are more full in the AM.

 

[subweevil]

I take it before bed as well, only 1 cap though, pretty much on an empty tummy. Love the results so far.

 

[DR.D]

My wife asked me this morning if I remembered to take my Glycobol. I looked over and saw that indeed I had forgotten and fell asleep last night before taking my bed-time vitamins. It improves my sleep that well, that it was readily apparent to her that I hadn't taken it!

Deep sleep increases GH release, and low blood sugar compounds that release even more. After years of supps and training, I can discern increased somatotropin biosynthesis by a distinct leaning effect. You develop a certain look of lean striation. I see lots of guys here use synthetic GH for bulking, but it seems more appropriate for leaning and 'anti-aging' effects IME. There are many ways to boost GH naturally. Deep sleep + low blood sugar + hyperaminoacidemia is a consistent, cheap and simple way to do this.

- Stop eating carbs at least 2hrs before bed
- Take 1-2 gbols
- Take a scoop of EAA or BCAA or protein powder, or some Mucuna (l-dopa), or an arginine based stack, or whatever you normally use to promote GH levels.

It's that simple. You'll start noticing what I mean pretty quickly. You lose fat, your cheeks might start to look leaner, your skin might feel a bit different, your arms/shoulders show more detailed striation, you 'feel' better in general, your wounds heal faster (but leave a little more scar tissue than normal), stuff like that. After a few weeks, it's easy for most people to observe these effects if their natural GH boosting has been successful.

 

[nycste]

My wife asked me this morning if I remembered to take my Glycobol. I looked over and saw that indeed I had forgotten and fell asleep last night before taking my bed-time vitamins. It improves my sleep that well, that it was readily apparent to her that I hadn't taken it!

Deep sleep increases GH release, and low blood sugar compounds that release even more. After years of supps and training, I can discern increased somatotropin biosynthesis by a distinct leaning effect. You develop a certain look of lean striation. I see lots of guys here use synthetic GH for bulking, but it seems more appropriate for leaning and 'anti-aging' effects IME. There are many ways to boost GH naturally. Deep sleep + low blood sugar + hyperaminoacidemia is a consistent, cheap and simple way to do this.

- Stop eating carbs at least 2hrs before bed
- Take 1-2 gbols
- Take a scoop of EAA or BCAA or protein powder, or some Mucuna (l-dopa), or an arginine based stack, or whatever you normally use to promote GH levels.

It's that simple. You'll start noticing what I mean pretty quickly. You lose fat, your cheeks might start to look leaner, your skin might feel a bit different, your arms/shoulders show more detailed striation, you 'feel' better in general, your wounds heal faster (but leave a little more scar tissue than normal), stuff like that. After a few weeks, it's easy for most people to observe these effects if their natural GH boosting has been successful.

interesting

 

[Kristofer68SS]

My wife asked me this morning if I remembered to take my Glycobol. I looked over and saw that indeed I had forgotten and fell asleep last night before taking my bed-time vitamins. It improves my sleep that well, that it was readily apparent to her that I hadn't taken it!

Deep sleep increases GH release, and low blood sugar compounds that release even more. After years of supps and training, I can discern increased somatotropin biosynthesis by a distinct leaning effect. You develop a certain look of lean striation. I see lots of guys here use synthetic GH for bulking, but it seems more appropriate for leaning and 'anti-aging' effects IME. There are many ways to boost GH naturally. Deep sleep + low blood sugar + hyperaminoacidemia is a consistent, cheap and simple way to do this.

- Stop eating carbs at least 2hrs before bed
- Take 1-2 gbols
- Take a scoop of EAA or BCAA or protein powder, or some Mucuna (l-dopa), or an arginine based stack, or whatever you normally use to promote GH levels.

It's that simple. You'll start noticing what I mean pretty quickly. You lose fat, your cheeks might start to look leaner, your skin might feel a bit different, your arms/shoulders show more detailed striation, you 'feel' better in general, your wounds heal faster (but leave a little more scar tissue than normal), stuff like that. After a few weeks, it's easy for most people to observe these effects if their natural GH boosting has been successful.

Hey doc.

Im running a log with Glycobol in it.....So far so good. See link below.

My problem is late night carb cravings. I will get up in the middle of the night searching for food. The sweeter the better.....

I dont understand this and would like to control it. I know alot of its willpower, but at night for some reason its very weak.

Any tips to curb this midnight hogjaw?

 

[strategicmove]

If it is not due to high levels of external stressors or any metabolic dysfunction, sugar cravings can be initiated and sustained by low levels of neurotransmitters such as dopamine and serotonin. In such a case remedy may be obtained via improvement in dopamine (via intake of Tyrosine or Mucuna Pruriens for L-Dopa) and serotonin (via intake of Tryptophan) syntheses. They both should nicely augment GH secretion, deep restful sleep, and general well-being.

 

[subweevil]

I highly recommend stacking this with Somnidren GH/ZMK. You can throw in Nocturnabol as well into the mix. I'm getting VERY solid results so far, for just sleeping on it!! I think this will wind up being one of the best stacks out there, for ease of use and simplicity. You guys are really hitting the nail on hte head with this. I've easily noticed all the above stuff Dr.D said, and I have no cravings at all during the night, and I eat like all the time. My recovery is great, as is my mood. Granted, I'm logging it all, but I just figured I'd share the info with you guys and confirm the above.

 

[strategicmove]

I highly recommend stacking this with Somnidren GH/ZMK....

This is a great stack to add to it. Other options may include PowerFULL and IGF-2. I have used them all (not yet with Glycobol, though), and highly recommend them.

 

[subweevil]

Good call there as well!!

 

[DR.D]

If it is not due to high levels of external stressors or any metabolic dysfunction, sugar cravings can be initiated and sustained by low levels of neurotransmitters such as dopamine and serotonin. In such a case remedy may be obtained via improvement in dopamine (via intake of Tyrosine or Mucuna Pruriens for L-Dopa) and serotonin (via intake of Tryptophan) syntheses. They both should nicely augment GH secretion, deep restful sleep, and general well-being.

Some l-dopa or 5-HTP/TP at night, or tyrosine during the day, excellent advice for appetite curb!

Low blood sugar is just asking for the munchies though, not too many ways around it. When bulking, it's good to take advantage of the hunger and leave a snack next to your bed in case you wake up hungry. If your cutting, leave a low-carb shake next to bed (adding a thickener like guar gum makes you feel full longer .)

I haven't tried PowerFULL lately, but have used IGF-2 and the REM product from USP, and suspect your right about the potential of beneficial sleep synergism from such stacks.

 

[Kristofer68SS]

Thanks guys....

After leg days, Im hungry for 48 solid hours. Day and Nite.

Then the late hungry subsides a bit. Not gone, but not as bad.

I have all the nite time GH stuff listed, and then some.

Some times I will get food out, then put it back up and get back in bed. lol

I will try to drink a protein shake instead of carbs.......

 

[DR.D]

... Some times I will get food out, then put it back up and get back in bed. ...

Haha, me too bro. But I usually can't get back to sleep if I'm hungry, so I'd be scrounging grub in the middle of the night. Not good, because I'm going for something easy like chips or brownies when I'm half asleep!

That's why I started with the snack/shake system, it's more strategic cals.

 

[andrew732]

Haha, me too bro. But I usually can't get back to sleep if I'm hungry, so I'd be scrounging grub in the middle of the night. Not good, because I'm going for something easy like chips or brownies when I'm half asleep!

That's why I started with the snack/shake system, it's more strategic cals.

Not going to lie, I cheat all the time LOL, brownies are oh so tempting, not to mention chocolate chip cookies.

 

[andrew732]

Here are some photos of me on glycobol

 

[CROWLER]

There are many ways to boost GH naturally. Deep sleep + low blood sugar + hyperaminoacidemia is a consistent, cheap and simple way to do this.

- Stop eating carbs at least 2hrs before bed
- Take 1-2 gbols
- Take a scoop of EAA or BCAA or protein powder, or some Mucuna (l-dopa), or an arginine based stack, or whatever you normally use to promote GH levels.

It's that simple. You'll start noticing what I mean pretty quickly.

If you have Glycobol I STRONGLY recommend you try this!

I did it last night and it was seriously very good. What a great night sleep. Will definitely be doing this again tonight. :sleeping:

 

[subweevil]

2nd the above post!!

 

[DR.D]

Here are some photos of me on glycobol

Those bicep peaks are impressive bro! Nice work.

 

[CROWLER]

Here are some photos of me on glycobol

GOOD JOB!

You should use one of them as a new avi.

Maybe the second one. :usa1:

 

[andrew732]

The lightings on these pics were horrible, I could definitely see more striation in the mirror as well as vascularity, I will post more pics in 2 weeks.

 

[Kristofer68SS]

Nice peaks on those bi's

Definately, Good work......

 

[PrinterPaper]

If you have Glycobol I STRONGLY recommend you try this!

I did it last night and it was seriously very good. What a great night sleep. Will definitely be doing this again tonight. :sleeping:

In addition to the 2 capsules in the a.m. and 2 in the p.m? Or do you do a 2 a.m., 1 p.m., and 1 before bed?

 

[CROWLER]

In addition to the 2 capsules in the a.m. and 2 in the p.m? Or do you do a 2 a.m., 1 p.m., and 1 before bed?

I have gone a little Glycobol crazy. I do the 2 before bed and then 2 any time I have a good amount of carbs so usually 6 a day.

I don't really do the 2 in the AM very often. No special reason but now you brought it up I may add that in.

:thanks:

 

[sublimejeh]

I don't really do the 2 in the AM very often. No special reason but now you brought it up I may add that in.

:thanks:

Im no expert on glycobol by any means, but i love it so far... but i also have a comment on what you said above^

Logically, from my understanding of nutrition/training/whatever... nutrients consumed in the morning (i.e. carbs) will almost always be stored as glycogen until the stores are full...

why not take all the caps spread out throughout the later meals of the day when carbs can be easily stored as fat instead of glycogen?

 

[crazyfool405]

Im no expert on glycobol by any means, but i love it so far... but i also have a comment on what you said above^

Logically, from my understanding of nutrition/training/whatever... nutrients consumed in the morning (i.e. carbs) will almost always be stored as glycogen until the stores are full...

why not take all the caps spread out throughout the later meals of the day when carbs can be easily stored as fat instead of glycogen?

but in the morning LPL is high and high LPL helps store fat

LPL- lipoprotein lipase- makes you crave carbs in the morning.

 

[Kristofer68SS]

but in the morning LPL is high and high LPL helps store fat

LPL- lipoprotein lipase- makes you crave carbs in the morning.

or if your like Crowler and I, in the middle of the nite. lol

 

[strategicmove]

but in the morning LPL is high and high LPL helps store fat

LPL- lipoprotein lipase- makes you crave carbs in the morning.

Could you clarify your comments, please? In particular, could you expand on the underlying sequence of enzymatic reactions that lead your assertion? Firstly, carbohydrate cravings are a complex state driven by several factors, and since LPL is not the only enzyme down-regulated in fasted states, it is unclear why it should stimulate carbohydrate cravings. Furthermore it is not clear why LPL levels should be high at all in a fasted state!

Recall that the enzyme acetyl-CoA carboxylase (ACC) is the rate-limiting step in the synthesis of fatty acids, the first committed step being the synthesis of malonyl-CoA. Fatty acid synthase (FAS) is the enzyme that synthesizes fatty acids from acetyl-CoA and malonyl-CoA. As it turns out, fasting reduces the syntheses of ACC and FAS, while insulin stimulates their syntheses. Similarly, adipose tissue lipoprotein lipase (LPL) levels are reduced by starvation (or fasted states, such as in the morning) and increased by the action of insulin. More precisely, insulin is necessary for the activity of LPL. In particular, LPL acts on plasma triglycerides, promoting the uptake of fatty acids from circulating triglycerides for storage in adipocytes. LPL plays a central role in the metabolism and transportation of lipids, such that any abnormalities (deficiency or mutations) in LPL expression and function can lead to hypertriglyceridemia-related pathological states including, but not limited to, obesity and diabetes.

 

[Kristofer68SS]

Could you clarify your comments, please? In particular, could you expand on the underlying sequence of enzymatic reactions that lead your assertion? Firstly, carbohydrate cravings are a complex state driven by several factors, and since LPL is not the only enzyme down-regulated in fasted states, it is unclear why it should stimulate carbohydrate cravings. Furthermore it is not clear why LPL levels should be high at all in a fasted state!

Recall that the enzyme acetyl-CoA carboxylase (ACC) is the rate-limiting step in the synthesis of fatty acids, the first committed step being the synthesis of malonyl-CoA. Fatty acid synthase (FAS) is the enzyme that synthesizes fatty acids from acetyl-CoA and malonyl-CoA. As it turns out, fasting reduces the syntheses of ACC and FAS, while insulin stimulates their syntheses. Similarly, adipose tissue lipoprotein lipase (LPL) levels are reduced by starvation (or fasted states, such as in the morning) and increased by the action of insulin. More precisely, insulin is necessary for the activity of LPL. In particular, LPL acts on plasma triglycerides, promoting the uptake of fatty acids from circulating triglycerides for storage in adipocytes. LPL plays a central role in the metabolism and transportation of lipids, such that any abnormalities (deficiency or mutations) in LPL expression and function can lead to hypertriglyceridemia-related pathological states including, but not limited to, obesity and diabetes.

english please.

All i know is i crave carbs something fierce at nite.

I can eat a pint of ben and jerrys in 1 sitting, get up 3 hours later and do it again.

2200 calories.



Seriously.

 

[strategicmove]

english please.

All i know is i crave carbs something fierce at nite.

I can eat a pint of ben and jerrys in 1 sitting, get up 3 hours later and do it again.

2200 calories.



Seriously.

Wir haben bereits das Thema vorher diskutiert. Es gibt viele Faktoren, die das sogenannte "Carb Craving" auslösen. Nur, Lipoprotein-Lipase spielt dabei kaum eine Rolle. Außerdem kann man kaum behaupten, LPL sei morgens hoch, eher das Gegenteil!

 

[Kristofer68SS]

Wir haben bereits das Thema vorher diskutiert. Es gibt viele Faktoren, die das sogenannte "Carb Craving" auslösen. Nur, Lipoprotein-Lipase spielt dabei kaum eine Rolle. Außerdem kann man kaum behaupten, LPL sei morgens hoch, eher das Gegenteil!

real funny, real funny..........

lol:wave2:

 

[crazyfool405]

Could you clarify your comments, please? In particular, could you expand on the underlying sequence of enzymatic reactions that lead your assertion? Firstly, carbohydrate cravings are a complex state driven by several factors, and since LPL is not the only enzyme down-regulated in fasted states, it is unclear why it should stimulate carbohydrate cravings. Furthermore it is not clear why LPL levels should be high at all in a fasted state!

Recall that the enzyme acetyl-CoA carboxylase (ACC) is the rate-limiting step in the synthesis of fatty acids, the first committed step being the synthesis of malonyl-CoA. Fatty acid synthase (FAS) is the enzyme that synthesizes fatty acids from acetyl-CoA and malonyl-CoA. As it turns out, fasting reduces the syntheses of ACC and FAS, while insulin stimulates their syntheses. Similarly, adipose tissue lipoprotein lipase (LPL) levels are reduced by starvation (or fasted states, such as in the morning) and increased by the action of insulin. More precisely, insulin is necessary for the activity of LPL. In particular, LPL acts on plasma triglycerides, promoting the uptake of fatty acids from circulating triglycerides for storage in adipocytes. LPL plays a central role in the metabolism and transportation of lipids, such that any abnormalities (deficiency or mutations) in LPL expression and function can lead to hypertriglyceridemia-related pathological states including, but not limited to, obesity and diabetes.

There is a between the the hormone neuropeptide Y, and LPL levels which play a role in appetite.

http://pt.wkhealth.com/pt/re/clge/abstract.00003049-200209000-00002.htm;jsessionid=J2QFtqkJvj2Q2Ny24hWyyCJgLSRvDTWWpcmlzhlltD5WkSJvmn3D!928310026!181195629!8091!-1
this usually occurs in the morning (from what i learned in school).

obviously insulin plays a role in this NPY and LPL levels, anf after fasting and ingesting a high carbohydrate meal (like a breakfast cereal or something with a lot of sugar) your body over secretes insulin to deal with this amount of sugar (again something i learned while in school) this in turn is why id rather not have my carbs in the morning.

then again theres a lot of interaction between LPL NPY and Leptin, When NPY is low HSL is higher which helps with FFA metabolism

however i do understand that malonyl CoA inhibits lipolysis, but i have not learned much about that in my short semester in bio chem.

this was a decent read tho.

EDIT: should have worded my words better in the original post with carb craving, its usually an increase in appetite

 

[jsp0785]

I have gone a little Glycobol crazy. I do the 2 before bed and then 2 any time I have a good amount of carbs so usually 6 a day.

I don't really do the 2 in the AM very often. No special reason but now you brought it up I may add that in.

:thanks:

are u supposed to take the nighttime dose before bed with no carbs? or should u take in some sort of carbs with it?

 

[crazyfool405]

are u supposed to take the nighttime dose before bed with no carbs? or should u take in some sort of carbs with it?

wait 2 hours after having carbs before you take your nightime dose, try it fasted, and try 2 caps with a little bit of carbs before bed see which one you like better, i havent tried the nighttime dose yet, not time for my recomp for another week.