Tri-Max

[LCSULLA]

I love the NYC combo! But you can't find it anywhere.....or can you?

 

[Brodus]

The only stacked thermogenic that agrees with me, heats things up, and doesn't have a ton of bad sides is Dyma-Burn Xtreme, which is ECYA plus tyrosine, carnitine, and ginger. It is my favorite thermo by far (anyone have any leftover?...hehe)

As far as BP and pulse rise, yes, I can feel this effect, but it is NOTHING compared to the nastiness I feel on a high dose of caffeine, or worse, a Yohimbe Bark capsule. A 500mg Yohimbe Bark capsule will send me down a seriously dark tunnel, with all of the voodoo alkaloids in there.

I may be a special case, though-->I don't ever take an ECY/ECA right before a workout. I usually don't workout for two hours or more after taking these, so I don't get any of the light-headed/etc. sides. I also always take half a dose (one capsule), and do this twice a day with food, more to combat sleep deprivation, lethargy, business blues, etc. Three sets of heavy weights is my pre-workout booster! Or some IN-Rage....I love that stuff.

Back to topic, have there been any complaints to MedLine regarding Yohimbine and Ephedrine? I follow the scientific logic, but I'm a little skeptical about 3mgs. of Yohimbine + 20 mg. Ephedrine being any more harmful than 200mgs. of caffeine and 20 mgs. Ephedrine.

 

[diamonddave]

I have a couple of questions about the Trimax cycles. What would be the weakest androgen to stack with the Trimax to prevent muscle loss. I've never used AAS or PH. I would prefer a legal PH. Whatever the weakest androgen is that would help the catabolism; would it required PCT? Are there any substances that would help minimize muscle loss, that would not require nolva, clomid, 6-oxo, etc. Another question is about the thryroid PCT. Is anyone aware of a compound that will speed up the TSH recovery time?

Thanks, I appreciate the expertise on this board, and particularly, in this thread.

dd

 

[custom]

I think muscle loss can be minimized without androgens if your cardio is not too heavy, and you're consuming sufficient amounts of protein and overall calories. Also keeping a cycle short (<4 weeks) and dosages low, helps, IMO.

It has been said that thryroid PCT can consist of an increase in calories, and possible some 7-keto and/or gugguls.

 

[diamonddave]

OK, good info Custom. Can anybody comment on what happens post cycle, while your thyroid is out of whack? Do you gain a lot of fat back, because of the shut down? I realize from the lengthy thread that it appears the thyroid recovers pretty quick if you taper, keep cals high enough, don't over-train, etc. But, in those couple of weeks before it returns to normal, is there a big weight gain? I expect my Trimax will show tomorrow (Sat.) & hope to start Mon or Tues. The post cycle is starting to worry me a little, I'm going on vacation in 6 weeks and I don't want to goof up any of my "beach" progress. I'd appreciate any comments, especially from those who have first-hand experience.


Thanks,
dd

 

[LuckyBoy]

Actually today has marked my one week off so far. My strength is still down from before my cycle. I've been eating like a horse and not even good clean foods either and I have maintained my weight all week, I've been using ab-solved and sesathin as my pct of sorts. The first few days off I actually felt a lot better then I did while on. The lethargy was kicking my ass towards the end of the cycle. But one thing I noticed once off was I looked a lot bigger, muscle wise. This stuff depletes you like crazy and once I added the carbs back in, wow. But so far so good.

 

[fieyaa]

Actually today has marked my one week off so far. My strength is still down from before my cycle. I've been eating like a horse and not even good clean foods either and I have maintained my weight all week, I've been using ab-solved and sesathin as my pct of sorts. The first few days off I actually felt a lot better then I did while on. The lethargy was kicking my ass towards the end of the cycle. But one thing I noticed once off was I looked a lot bigger, muscle wise. This stuff depletes you like crazy and once I added the carbs back in, wow. But so far so good.

Its going the exact same with me after my cycle of Trimax as with LuyckBoy but I'm not using ab-solved or sesathin. Just Clen for a few weeks (80mcg), upped cardio, eating more carbs, and also eating cleaner. My strength never really went down during my cycle at 3 caps (which now i dont recommend for anyone :/ ) but the lethargy was ridiculous and didnt seem to help much more than 2 caps or even 1 cap. I lost pretty much all my weight (8 lbs) the first week and a half and nothing the following week. Weird? I've gained a lb or 2 but the mirror test is looking a lot better. I'm almost 3 weeks off and I'm pleased with the results thus far.

 

[Madshan]

trimax question

im thinking of running trimax for 4 weeks straight, is that too much, and what dosage cycle would you recommend. thanks.

 

[toastynoodles]

Nutrex Lipo-6

Nutrition Facts:
Serving Size: 2 caps
Servings Per: 60
Ephedra Sinica: 335mg
Caffeine: 200mg
Citrus Aurantium: 100mg
Yohimbine HCL: 3mg
Coleus Forskohlii: 50mg
Bioperine: 5mg

Biotest MD-6

Serving Size - 2 Capsules
Servings Per Container - 60

Ephedra sinica Extract - 335mg
(standardized for 20mg ephedra alkaloids) †
L-Tyrosine - 200mg †
Alpha Lipoic Acid - 200mg †
Caffeine - 100mg †
5-hydroxy-L-tryptophan - 25mg †
Yohimbine HCl - 6mg †

Ingredients: gelatin, cellulose, magnesium stearate.


Both work great

lipo-6 worked great for me lost 14lbs is 30 days,made cardio seem fun again. H ad no sides at all just faster mile 1.5 times!!! love that stuff got 1 bottle left,going to use with clen like this 2weeks clen 2weeks lipo-6 2weeks clen and that will be the end of my cutting cycle !!!!!!

 

[Ronn38]

I was wondering if supersoldier's low T3 levels post trimax could have been a result of the use of usnic acid immediately following his cycle? From my understanding, usnic acid interferes with the mitochondria's ability to use ATP, which in turn prompts the body to compensate by up-regulating the MR. It would seem in a perfect scenario, this would get the Thyroid humming again. However, in the lethargic state of a post-trimax cycle, might it have-- rather than increasing the MR--chosen instead the rather imperfect "what the **** is this" response

I too am thinking of running trimax with usnic acid, but wonder if reversing the protocol (unsic acid for 2 weeks FOLLOWED by trimax for week) would be a better choice.

Any thoughts?

Ronn

 

[supersoldier]

I was wondering if supersoldier's low T3 levels post trimax could have been a result of the use of usnic acid immediately following his cycle?

I actually never got around to using usnic acid afterwords. I've never tried UA at all as of yet.

 

[Ronn38]

I actually never got around to using usnic acid afterwords. I've never tried UA at all as of yet.

Just a though--I trust all is well with you now in terms of your T3 counts.

Now, of course, I'm left to wonder if your original protocol would be a good one... using the UA to "kick-start" thyroid production post trimax? Hmmmmm.

My usnic acid and trimax should arrive tomorrow. I think I'll trying using the UA first (2 weeks), followed by Trimax (3 weeks), followed by Guggelstrones (San's T3), 7-keto, and a Y/C stack (4 weeks). Do you think I can go from one to the other, bang-bang, or should I cycling in some down time between them?

Thanks,

Ronn

(For background: I'm 43 and about 60lbs heavier than I was in grad school 12 years ago. I've lost 20lbs over the last 20 week--but I've been stuck at 220lbs (5'10") for the last 3+ weeks. I lift 3 times a week, do HIIT the other 3, and do light cardio (brisk walk for 1.25 miles) every morning. My diets is pretty clean: I keep my protein over 200grms/daily (for a lean target weight of 180lbs) and am keeping fats low (save of EFA's and Olive) and low GI carbs (I watch my carbs between 9am and 9p--and eat only trace amouts thereafter). Needless to say, I"m hoping to see the down-side of 200lbs by the end of summer!)

 

[hamper19]

I have been on Trimax now for 2 weeks, and I am not sure if this is a problem, but I have had diarrhea the entire time.

Is that a bad thing? I added some oatmeal to my diet in the morning, and have been putting a little bit of low gi carbs in with my post w/0 shake, but can't seem to get a solid stool

Sorry for being gross, but im hoping its ok.

So far though, the results have been pretty good, down about 5 pounds in two weeks, and strength has actually gone up a bit thanks to the 40 mg M5aa I am taking pre-workout. I am also using lipoderm-Y

h19

 

[Lonny]

I have been on Trimax now for 2 weeks, and I am not sure if this is a problem, but I have had diarrhea the entire time.

Is that a bad thing? I added some oatmeal to my diet in the morning, and have been putting a little bit of low gi carbs in with my post w/0 shake, but can't seem to get a solid stool

Sorry for being gross, but im hoping its ok.

So far though, the results have been pretty good, down about 5 pounds in two weeks, and strength has actually gone up a bit thanks to the 40 mg M5aa I am taking pre-workout. I am also using lipoderm-Y

h19

If you read earlier in the thread a few people mention it as being a possible side effect. Its very common for people on T-3. i had it on and off for the first couple days during a 2 week cycle, nothing uncomfortable, just annoying that its not quite solid.

 

[custom]

HOw much are you taking? It can be a sign of hyper thyroid activity (if that's even a legit phrase).

 

[hamper19]

HOw much are you taking? It can be a sign of hyper thyroid activity (if that's even a legit phrase).

If it is a sign, isn't that a good thing? I mean hyperthyroidism (thyrotoxicosis) is from elevated T3 and/or T4 levels..so I assume its just sign it is working.

I have been at 3 caps for 3 days now, and there is no muscle loss and I can notice a difference mainly in my VAT fat..which is a good thing.

Do you think it is necessary to cut back? I was only going to stay at 3 caps for about 3 more days, then cut back to 2 caps for 5 days, then 1 cap for 5 days and then I am done.

h19

 

[tribaltek]

Do you think taking a little bit of Pepto Bismol or Immodium AD might help?

 

[Dwight Schrute]

I have been on Trimax now for 2 weeks, and I am not sure if this is a problem, but I have had diarrhea the entire time.

Is that a bad thing? I added some oatmeal to my diet in the morning, and have been putting a little bit of low gi carbs in with my post w/0 shake, but can't seem to get a solid stool


h19

Its common with high levels of T3. No worries bro.

 

[diamonddave]

I posted the text below on another board. I wanted to get some opinions from you guys too. dd


[font=verdana, arial, helvetica]I'm on day 4 and nothing so far. One cap a day and eating clean with calories a couple hundred under calculated maintenance. I'm starting to think my metabolism is screwed up and none of this stuff is going to do much, but it's only been 4 days so I still have hope. I'll probably start 2 tabs tomorrow. The reason I'm concerned about the metabolism is that I've been working on losing for serveral weeks and I can't get my body to respond. Prior to starting the Trimax, I was on clen for about 7-10 days (I'm still on it w/trimax, I'm planning on switching the clen to ECA next week). Never used it, but was able to quickly ramp up to 200mcg ed. I feel the heat, but no weight loss. I've been eating very clean, eating mainly grilled/baked chicken breast, some protein drinks, rice, bannas, apples, & a few pretzals (one cheat day in two weeks). I've dropped weight a million times in the past, so I feel I'm in tune with my body. I did 20-30 minutes of cardio a day (upon waking, on an empty stomach) while on clen only. I've dropped the cardio since starting the trimax. I hit the weights 3 or 4 days a week. I've been supersetting opposing muscles & using 8-15 rep range to keep heart rate elevated during the workout. Workouts have been good & last about 45 minutes. I have not lost a pound. My scale is one of those %BF measuring type. I know it's not totally accurate, but weight AND %BF have stayed the same, so I don't think it's just a composition change with no change in weight. Neither numbers are changing. I've never used any AAS or even PHs. In fact, I would have never even gone the clen & trimax route in the past because I could always lose with good diet & exercise. So what could be screwed up here? I'd appreciate any thoughts or comments, except the smart@ss ones. You can still post them, but they won't be appreciated.

Thanks,
dd[/font]

 

[jweave23]

Don't expect anything on only day 4!

Results for me (and it seems many others as well) didn't even start until after about a week. I would say my most significant results came right after week 2, just be patient. Also you may want to up the protein intake to try and minimize muscle loss. My calories did not have to be too low to see results.

 

[custom]

I would bump that. Everything does seem to be in check, though. Im sure you'll see something soon.

 

[hamper19]

I agree about waiting, I kind of had the same things going through my head...after about a week i was like "man maybe i have thryoid problems, this doesn't seem to be working"....but i just hit week 2 yesterday and have seen pretty good results during the week....

I am thinking the following weeks will be even better...I'd say be patient...

h19

 

[SJA]

DiamondDave....you are eating bananas and rice??? Why? If you are dieting then I would lean towards lower GI carbs such as yams, sweet potatoes, oatmeal.

You also have cut out your cardio? Why? Trimax IMO is for those last few stubborn pounds and is a "supplement" to your work ethic and diet. I would recommend that you get those two things in check ASAP if you want the full benefit of this supp.

JMO

 

[diamonddave]

I'm losing some weight, not cutting for a show. The rice is a mainstay for me. I can't/won't drop it. I'm on clen also, the banana is a nice source of much needed potassium and it's good portable food. The cardio thing is because the Trimax. According to many people in this thread, it can easily cause muscle loss while on. Extra cardio would, I believe, amplify this affect. I've been on two-a-day for two days now. I'll weigh tomorrow.



dd

 

[goin_big]

Hey ya'll, I haven't been around in awhile. Well, I got engaged and haven't lifted in almost 9 months now. Let food retake control of my life, yada yada yada.....anyways I've started back up again, first goal is to lose some fat then concentrate on strength again. I'm giving trimax a shot and the first couple of days I've been dead tired and starving while on it.....so now I've added a little ec stack to the combo. I'll let ya'll know what kinda results I get. I won't be on the best lifting or eating schedule do to work, so we'll see just how good trimax is on a mediocre routine I already know ephedrine rules It's just day 3 so I'll give you some results in a couple of weeks.

 

[supersoldier]

35 Days off

Baselines taken 4/9/04 TSH 1.43; T3 142.86; T4 6.9; Free T4 1.30

Today (9 days off) TSH 1.52; T3 131.58; T4 4.8; Free T4 2.14

This is with no added Tyrosine, FL7, ect.

13 Days Off now: TSH 1.27; T3 70.60; T4 3.6; Free T4 1.98

23 Days Off now: TSH 1.34; t3 69.75; T4 4.2; Free T4 1.65 (Free T3 3.48)

35 Days Off now: TSH 1.68; T3 101.01; T4 4.6; Free T4 1.67; (free T3 3.61)Getting a little better.

 

[SJA]

SS....did you gain back any fat? How's your strength?

 

[enzo]

SS,

Thanks for keeping us updated on your chemistry panels. It can't be easy.

 

[x_muscle]

dam the rebound is realy bad as i thought.

im thinking of doing triac aty, then add an androgen after i finish rom triac to regain muscle, and make use of hypothyroid extra cals to used by androgen!!

 

[SJA]

dam the rebound is realy bad as i thought.

im thinking of doing triac aty, then add an androgen after i finish rom triac to regain muscle, and make use of hypothyroid extra cals to used by androgen!!

I'm sorry. I do not understand your post. Are you saying that you didn't think that the rebound was as bad as you expected or that it is worse?

Are you saying that you are going to do another cycle with androgens?

Steve - dazed and confused

 

[jweave23]

dam the rebound is realy bad as i thought.

im thinking of doing triac aty, then add an androgen after i finish rom triac to regain muscle, and make use of hypothyroid extra cals to used by androgen!!

"bad" how? I really didn't have that bad of a rebound period myself, although I could see that it could happen. What were your cals like? Any supps to try and combat hypothyroidism?

 

[x_muscle]

i lost 12lbs in three weeks from triac .my weight stayed same after cycl but i gained fat according to caliper back about 6.5 lbs, even though i was 700cals below maintanace doing cardio 4 times a week and using 400mg of 7-keto oraly.

plus from SS thyroid panel his thyroid recovered 70% only from its baseline after 35 days off!

 

[jweave23]

i lost 12lbs in three weeks from triac .my weight stayed same after cycl but i gained fat according to caliper back about 6.5 lbs, even though i was 700cals below maintanace doing cardio 4 times a week and using 400mg of 7-keto oraly.

plus from SS thyroid panel his thyroid recovered 70% only from its baseline after 35 days off!

you were 700 cals below maintenance POST cycle?

If so that could be your problem. Calories should be raised, but diet kept clean, same as post T3. This will increase thyroid output, as well as help with leptin levels and so on. I would lower the cardio and up the cals next time, also may want to consider transdermal 7-keto and add some tyrosine. I realize that some will be hit harder than others, but calories looks like the culprit here IMO.

 

[Ronn38]

Do you think that, in addition to the liver supplements, a 4 week cycle of Y/C and Guggelstrone would be helpful following a TriMax cycle?

Ronn

 

[Mike Oxlong]

Hey guys, newbie to this forum and I was wondering if anyone knew where to get Tri-max in Canada

Thanks in advance

 

[Lonny]

Hey guys, newbie to this forum and I was wondering if anyone knew where to get Tri-max in Canada

Thanks in advance

Custom is the only person who sells it.

He may have some tips as to how to get it through.

 

[Scottyo]

i lost 12lbs in three weeks from triac .my weight stayed same after cycl but i gained fat according to caliper back about 6.5 lbs, even though i was 700cals below maintanace doing cardio 4 times a week and using 400mg of 7-keto oraly.

plus from SS thyroid panel his thyroid recovered 70% only from its baseline after 35 days off!

While I agree with Jweave...I also think your caliper reading skills might be in question. Nothing personal, but calipers can vary greatly, and unless you've got it down pat, the flat muscles you have during a t3 or trimax cycle, and the subsequent glycogen loading may have added some of this "fat". just a thought....
Although cortisol and low t3 may well have been the culprits for some of this.

 

[clynnc33]

Hey guys-

I posted this in the bc and trimax thread but I don't think it's going to be seen there. I am a 25 yr old female, and I just started a trimax cycle (3 weeks). I'm 5'7.5", 135 lbs and 20% bf (about). I'm lifting 2X/week and cardio about 3-4X...usually a 3 mile run or if it's after lifting I do hiit.
Anyway I was curious about jweaves gf (or any other women that anyone knows of)...how did she eat/train while on trimax? what were her results?

Also, do you take trimax w/food, morning, afternoon? (I'm only doing one cap a day).
Can you drink any alcohol at all while on it? Even one or 2 glasses of wine or is that really bad?

thanx for any info...

 

[maclen]

trimax

I'm losing some weight, not cutting for a show. The rice is a mainstay for me. I can't/won't drop it. I'm on clen also, the banana is a nice source of much needed potassium and it's good portable food. The cardio thing is because the Trimax. According to many people in this thread, it can easily cause muscle loss while on. Extra cardio would, I believe, amplify this affect. I've been on two-a-day for two days now. I'll weigh tomorrow.





dd

Hey guys,

I'm new to this forum, but I have been following the discussions regarding Trimax, and I seem to be having the same problem as diamonddave.

I had been going to the gym and working out actively since 1998 until last year. Unfortunately, due to work, I had to take about a year off from working out, which I was not happy about. Finally, about a month ago, I decided to start again. However, I had put on about 15 lbs. (I was then 170 lbs. and I'm only 5'6") and I was determined to lose the weight before beginning my workouts. For about a month I went on an Atkins-type low carb diet and lost about 10 lbs. I decided two weeks ago to accelerate the loss of weight and hopefully fat by starting a cylce of Trimax.

I started with one capsule a day and then after 5 days have been taking 2 capsules. It has now been 2 weeks on Trimax and I have lost about 5 pounds, which I'm not sure is from Trimax or from cardio. Before I started working out again, I had a complete check-up, including thyroid tests, and everything was normal. At 2 weeks the Trimax should be working. Should I give it more time, or does it just not work for some people?

I should say that 5 years ago, I took Triax from Syntrac when you could still buy it, and I went from 153 lbs. to 130 lbs. in about 3 weeks. So I can related to the pounds literally melting off my stomach. However, this time is different. With all the risks that there are taking Trimax (like supersoldier and others have had), I'm wondering if it makes sense to keep taking this product if it doesn't do anything for me.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks.

 

[Sir Foxx]

My lifting partner actually gained weight for the first week and a half, then plateued(sp?) for about a half week(which was when he was going to end the cycle but I convinced him to stay on another week.) During the 3rd week he went from 209lbs to 200lbs, without really doing anything different, except eating cleaner. His dose schedule was this: 111122222111112211111. Also at the start of week 3, I started him on Metabolic Thyrolean(6caps a day, he had bought them last year which is why he took this particular brand), and increased his EC stack to 3 times a day(25mg E and 200mg C per dose). I think in some it just takes longer to kick in. For me it hit quick, him it took until week 3.

 

[maclen]

My lifting partner actually gained weight for the first week and a half, then plateued(sp?) for about a half week(which was when he was going to end the cycle but I convinced him to stay on another week.) During the 3rd week he went from 209lbs to 200lbs, without really doing anything different, except eating cleaner. His dose schedule was this: 111122222111112211111. Also at the start of week 3, I started him on Metabolic Thyrolean(6caps a day, he had bought them last year which is why he took this particular brand), and increased his EC stack to 3 times a day(25mg E and 200mg C per dose). I think in some it just takes longer to kick in. For me it hit quick, him it took until week 3.

Thanks Sir Foxx. I wonder if Custom has any comments since he sells the stuff. Thanks.

 

[custom]

I have no logical explanation at all why one would gain weight; it is beyond my reasoning as I have never come across that with anyone.

Maclen, please check your personal mesages.

 

[jweave23]

haven't experienced that myself, or would understand why, but it makes sense he dropped weight later!

Maybe it was something to do with holding water and his diet??

 

[Sir Foxx]

My thoughts are is that I hyped this stuff up too much to him, and he ate like a pig. When he saw his weight going up and not down half way through it, he got sensible and started eating cleaner. I tend to get a little excited when describing something that works for me and he probably thought he was getting the magic pill, that not only makes you lose weight but slices and dices, cuts through a tin can and can still slice a tomato razor thin

 

[Redspy]

I've just ordered Tri-Max. Judging by the reviews here it looks like great stuff if you cycle it correctly.

 

[Enigma76]

It IS great stuff, but for reference I took it w/o AS/PH for 2 weeks. Lost 10lbs but towards the end definately lost a little strength (not as much as many people make it out to be, or that many people experience). On the rebound I noticed that there definately is alittle fat coming back but not that bad.

 

[jweave23]

On my second cycle of it with no adrogens this time I'm through with PCT and cutting. I've lost almost 10lbs in 2 weeks, but a little of that is definitely muscle. My lifts are down, which sucks, but more importantly so is my waist and bf%!!

I'm at the "I don't give a f***, I need to lose fat!!" stage now, so this is expected. Very pleased, I've had great results each cycle. BTW my GF is down about 10 lbs after a 4 week cycle

 

[supersoldier]

BTW my GF is down about 10 lbs after a 4 week cycle

I'm about to start feeding my girlfriend usnic acid, I'm just waiting to get baseline liver values on her.

 

[jweave23]

I'm about to start feeding my girlfriend usnic acid, I'm just waiting to get baseline liver values on her.

I had my GF on UCP-1 once, oddly enough it didn't do anything for her....probably her diet

 

[supersoldier]

I'm on Tri-max right now, will be 2 weeks Sunday, and I'm down about 7 pounds, very little strength loss, though it is apparent. My first set is usually up to par, but I can definitely feel strength loss in subsequent sets. I actually can't wait to come off, but I gotta wait until after I get paid so I can get some sort of 7-keto and guggle. Then it's on like Donkey Kong!