lol.
19-nor-blah-blah-dione is the tren crap, or whatever progestin they call it.
19-nor-blah-blah-DIOL is the deca prohormone that got banned awhile ago.
Looks like all gurus took the day off, lol.
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......told you.
if the old school stuff was not banned 19-Nordiol is something I would actually have considered using. It's piqued my curiosity for awhile.
......told you.
What exactly did you tell us? You gave information pertaining to 19-Nor-4-Androstene-3,17 diol. He was discussing 19-norandrosta 4,9 diene 3, 17 dione and how it would be interesting as a diol.
Um, OK.lol.
19-nor-blah-blah-DIONE is the tren crap, or whatever progestin they call it. I can't keep up with the nomenclature for these progestins.
19-nor-blah-blah-DIOL is the deca prohormone that got banned awhile ago.
Looks like all gurus took the day off, lol.
so what is it similar to in terms of effect ?Um, OK.
Reap, did you forget to take your meds... Like I said, it's a precursor to dienolone. It's not nandrolone or tren. Like everyone else said, the -diol & -dione have nothing to do with progestin, nandrolone, tren, etc. The diol/dione has more to do with how/what the the hormone may convert to or metabolites. The more important thing here is the double-bond positions (the -ene).
Nandrolone - 19-norandrost-4-ene-3-one-17b-ol
Dienolone - 19-norandrost-4,9-diene-3-one-17b-ol
Trenbolone - 19-norandrost-4,9,11-triene-3-one-17b-ol
Notice in dienolone says diene, meaning 2 double-bonds (at 4 & 9), and tren says triene, indicating 3 double-bonds (at 4, 9, & 11). Nandrolone simply has one double-bond, at the 4 position.
Tren Xtreme is 19-norandrost-4,9-diene-3,17-dione. The dione means there are 2 ketones (di=2,-one=ketone) at 3b & 17b. When Tren Xtreme interacts with the 17b-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (17b-HSD), the 17b-one will become a hydroxyl (-ol), making 19-norandrost-4,9-diene-3-one-17b-ol.
19-norandrost-4,9-diene-3,17-dione + 17b-HSD-->
19-norandrost-4,9-diene-3-one-17b-ol
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so what is it similar to in terms of effect ?
It's actually like dienoloneAtleast that's what it's a precursor to. Don't know any feedback to dienolone, only methyldienolone.
I figured it was a Max LMG spin-off or something. Silly me.