XPG Ursa-Gel - Ursolic Acid (70 mg. per ml/100 servings) - Feedback & Discussion Thread

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I wanted to create a thread for reviews, discussion, and feedback on Ursa-Gel.

I want to encourage everyone to please feel free to post separate product review threads for Ursa-Gel and all XPG products.

Your feedback is very much appreciated, and I don't want this thread to take away from that at all.

Ursolic Acid Skin Gel
70 mg. per ml/100 servings per bottle
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70 mg. Ursolic Acid (from Sodium Ursolate) per ml.
7 grams Ursolic Acid (from Sodium Ursolate) per bottle

Ursa-Gel is a topical Ursolic Acid product that contains 70 mg. per ml. (7 grams per bottle).

Ursa-Gel Highlights/Supports:
  • Lean Muscle & Strength
  • Fat Loss & Improved Body-Composition
  • Improved Endurance
  • Enhanced Vascularity
  • Positive Mood and Improved Sense of Well-Being
  • Natural Antioxidant Support
  • 70 mg. Ursolic Acid per ml/7 grams Ursolic Acid per Bottle
Ask Yourself a Few Questions:
  • Do you want to build lean muscle?
  • Do you want to burn fat and improve body-composition?
  • Do you want to improve endurance and performance?
  • Do you want to enhance vascularity and improve muscle definition?
^^^ If you answered yes to any of the above questions, you may be interested in Ursa-Gel.

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Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ):

What is Ursolic Acid?
Ursolic Acid is a naturally occurring triterpenoid found in apples, rosemary, basil, certain berries, and some other plants.

What is Ursolic Acid commonly used for?
Ursolic Acid is commonly used to support body-recomposition benefits including promoting a more fit and athletic appearance and to support building or retaining lean muscle while burning fat.

Can Ursa-Gel be stacked with other Xtreme Performance Gels products?
Yes, Ursa-Gel can be stacked with other XPG products including Ab-Solved, Suppress-C, EpiAndro Gel, and other upcoming products.

What are some good stacks for Ursa-Gel?
Ursa-Gel is versatile and can be stacked with many different products.

Lean Muscle Building & Recomposition Regimens:
Some of the most common stacks that we are hearing about with Ursa-Gel for lean muscle building and recomposition regimens are people stacking Ursa-Gel with XPG Suppress-C, XPG EpiAndro Gel, SNS Anabolic XT, CEL Anabolic Effect, SNS Phosphatidic Acid XT, SNS Recomp20, CEL M-Test, CEL Cloma-Plex, & SNS Optimize-T.

Fat Loss Regimens:
Some of the most common stacks that we're hearing about with Ursa-Gel for fat loss regimens are people stacking Ursa-Gel with XPG Suppress-C, XPG Ab-Solved, SNS Lean Edge, SNS Thermo Scorch, SNS Thermagize XT, CEL Lipo Elite, & CEL LipoVantage.
 
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The feedback on Ursa-Gel has been great so far and it's a great value for the price and that makes it a great and easy addition to a lot of different stacks for a variety of different goals.

I'm looking forward to incorporating this at some point into my own regimen when I'm able to workout again. I'm still recovering from the accident and when I start back training, I definitely need to build muscle and lose fat both.
 
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I'm using 1ml on my neck/trap/shoulder.

It leaves a white film coat? After half an hr, if I run my skin it's like fried product coming off.

Does this mean it's not absorbing? This is after a shower too.
 
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I'm using 1ml on my neck/trap/shoulder.

It leaves a white film coat? After half an hr, if I run my skin it's like fried product coming off.

Does this mean it's not absorbing? This is after a shower too.
That happened to me too while using the product. My skin was extra sensitive to it felt real dry.
 
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That happened to me too while using the product. My skin was extra sensitive to it felt real dry.
It itches the top of my feet, but it's okay on my shoulders/traps. I'm not sure where else to use it.

But I can see white residual, and Im wondering if it's absorbing.

I don't think I've noticed any increased temperature, because I'm already hot after a shower at night.
 
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That happened to me too while using the product. My skin was extra sensitive to it felt real dry.
Ursa-Gel uses the Avant Labs carrier, which has long been regarded as the gold standard for carriers in terms of absorption - because the role of the carrier is to transport the ingredients efficiently through the skin into the body.

Some people, depending on sensitivity, will need to rotate application areas and always moisturize application areas - which should be done with any topical products anyway.
 
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I'm using 1ml on my neck/trap/shoulder.

It leaves a white film coat? After half an hr, if I run my skin it's like fried product coming off.

Does this mean it's not absorbing? This is after a shower too.
No, that doesn't mean that its not absorbing.

When you say after a shower, are you putting it on immediately after a shower?
(If so, its important to wait until your skin dries thoroughly before applying topicals after a shower).

It itches the top of my feet, but it's okay on my shoulders/traps. I'm not sure where else to use it.

But I can see white residual, and Im wondering if it's absorbing.

I don't think I've noticed any increased temperature, because I'm already hot after a shower at night.
The most common application areas are the inside of the arms, inside of thighs, tops of feet, shoulder/traps, etc.

Most people, myself included, rotate application areas and you should always make sure to moisturize properly.

When people talk about increased temperature with Ursa-Gel, they don't mean it in the sense of after an application, they normally mean it in the sense of the way someone would feel like their metabolism is elevated during the day. Not everyone feels this feeling from it, but some people do.
 
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No, that doesn't mean that its not absorbing.

When you say after a shower, are you putting it on immediately after a shower?
(If so, its important to wait until your skin dries thoroughly before applying topicals after a shower).



The most common application areas are the inside of the arms, inside of thighs, tops of feet, shoulder/traps, etc.

Most people, myself included, rotate application areas and you should always make sure to moisturize properly.

When people talk about increased temperature with Ursa-Gel, they don't mean it in the sense of after an application, they normally mean it in the sense of the way someone would feel like their metabolism is elevated during the day. Not everyone feels this feeling from it, but some people do.

I always dry myself off, and normally it's 10 minutes after.

It's the easiest place for me, I got hair everywhere else. I can try the inside of my arms as a change.

I don't get dry skin, only on my hands but it's not from this product.

I honestly can't tell if I'm warmer, nothing noticeable for me.

I'm only taking this, and another CEL product(It ain't fat loss related) so I will be able to see results overtime if any.

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I always dry myself off, and normally it's 10 minutes after.

It's the easiest place for me, I got hair everywhere else. I can try the inside of my arms as a change.

I don't get dry skin, only on my hands but it's not from this product.

I honestly can't tell if I'm warmer, nothing noticeable for me.

I'm only taking this, and another CEL product(It ain't fat loss related) so I will be able to see results overtime if any.

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I would rotate application spots and just make sure to moisturize.

I have to wait longer after a shower to apply td's myself, but I have very sensitive skin.
 

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So I know you need to not rub the gel in too much or it will clump up into a white texture. My first application last night I tried to barely rub it in and it still clumps up. This morning 30 min before my workout I tried to barely spread it over my shoulders/chest and same thing. There is no way I can spread it without making a white film, after my workout my shirt was covered in the clumped up white pieces of gel. Will this affect the amount in absorbing?
 
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So I know you need to not rub the gel in too much or it will clump up into a white texture. My first application last night I tried to barely rub it in and it still clumps up. This morning 30 min before my workout I tried to barely spread it over my shoulders/chest and same thing. There is no way I can spread it without making a white film, after my workout my shirt was covered in the clumped up white pieces of gel. Will this affect the amount in absorbing?
I'm a bit confused here - you said your shirt was covered in pieces of clumped white gel - how many ml are you using? Because there shouldn't be enough to cover a shirt even if used the maximum dosage at one time.

I use 2 ml twice per day and one dose is approximately 30 minutes prior to training and I've never experienced it the way you're explaining it. I apply it the inside of my biceps or tops of my feet generally myself.

In general, here are a few tips I can think of:
  • Shake it well before each use - which is a good thing to do with any topical.
  • Make sure to let it dry before putting clothing on, which it dries quickly.
Is there any chance that you left it in a spot where it could get very cold? Like in your car overnight, which I've done myself.
If so, pm me and I can walk you through what to do.
 

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No worries, I applied 2ml going to do 4 a day. I meant my shirt was covered in pieces of the white film where it was applied. It kind of just rolls into little clumps and that’ll stick onto the shirt. I make sure that the skin is dried before putting on clothing. I’ll try shaking it better. Pretty cool that it uses the Avant labs method, man I miss Avant labs.
 
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No worries, I applied 2ml going to do 4 a day. I meant my shirt was covered in pieces of the white film where it was applied. It kind of just rolls into little clumps and that’ll stick onto the shirt. I make sure that the skin is dried before putting on clothing. I’ll try shaking it better. Pretty cool that it uses the Avant labs method, man I miss Avant labs.
Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. Sorry I was confused on what you meant.

All of the Xtreme Performance Gels products use the Avant Labs carriers, and if you miss Avant, you'll love the next couple of months because XPG will bringing back FL7 and bringing back updated formulas of LipoDerm Ultra and Napalm.
 
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Snagged 8 bottles of this. Running 4 pumps per day. Goes on easy, no film, smells good. Like it a lot so far!
 
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Snagged 8 bottles of this. Running 4 pumps per day. Goes on easy, no film, smells good. Like it a lot so far!
all the xpg products apply really well in my experience, great product line.
 

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Snagged 8 bottles of this. Running 4 pumps per day. Goes on easy, no film, smells good. Like it a lot so far!
Been doing 3 pumps a day and besides feeling warm I’m not seeing or noticing much. Started it on Feb 23rd so still early.
 
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Been doing 3 pumps a day and besides feeling warm I’m not seeing or noticing much. Started it on Feb 23rd so still early.
I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what the issue is or if there is maybe a bit of an unrealistic expectation here.

You've only been on the product for 11 days.

Pretty much everyone that uses Ursa-Gel says that they usually start to see the difference in the second or third week and the results continue to build and get better.

Ursa-Gel has a lot of positive feedback on it, but there are very few things on the face of the earth that you're going to see some earth shattering difference with in 11 days of use.

It's a great product for recomp and helping build muscle and losing fat, and you can find a ton of great feedback on it.
 

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I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what the issue is or if there is maybe a bit of an unrealistic expectation here.

You've only been on the product for 11 days.

Pretty much everyone that uses Ursa-Gel says that they usually start to see the difference in the second or third week and the results continue to build and get better.

Ursa-Gel has a lot of positive feedback on it, but there are very few things on the face of the earth that you're going to see some earth shattering difference with in 11 days of use.

It's a great product for recomp and helping build muscle and losing fat, and you can find a ton of great feedback on it.
I completely understand Steve…that’s why I said it’s still early. Just curious what other people notice and when. Definitely wasn’t knocking the product…I’ve seen nothing but positive things about Ursa. Just feening for the magical Recomp it seems to give people so I can invest in another bottle. Got some suppress c on the way to run with it.
 
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Been doing 3 pumps a day and besides feeling warm I’m not seeing or noticing much. Started it on Feb 23rd so still early.
Endurance boost always kicks in after about ~a month or so for me. One of those things where I slowly start to notice I can throw in another set of something/add in another exercise.
 

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Endurance boost always kicks in after about ~a month or so for me. One of those things where I slowly start to notice I can throw in another set of something/add in another exercise.
I’m more looking for the fat loss/recomp …
 
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Snagged 8 bottles of this. Running 4 pumps per day. Goes on easy, no film, smells good. Like it a lot so far!
Thank you. I'm glad that you're liking it so far.

If you have any questions or if I can help in any way, please let me know. Always glad to help.
 
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I completely understand Steve…that’s why I said it’s still early. Just curious what other people notice and when. Definitely wasn’t knocking the product…I’ve seen nothing but positive things about Ursa. Just feening for the magical Recomp it seems to give people so I can invest in another bottle. Got some suppress c on the way to run with it.
I will share - I have run a lot of topical ursa from
other brands and this is the best deal presently. And I trust the brand, so I would expect you will see similar results or better than my previous runs.

I would say at 3 pumps in 4+ weeks you will really notice a difference. It does get better in time IMO. Recomp is what we all want but naturally it takes time. I would say it really speeds up the process but it still takes a 3-4 weeks or longer to notice the physical changes. Though I will say the body temp, sweating, and endurance seem to kick in within that time span as well.
 

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I will share - I have run a lot of topical ursa from
other brands and this is the best deal presently. And I trust the brand, so I would expect you will see similar results or better than my previous runs.

I would say at 3 pumps in 4+ weeks you will really notice a difference. It does get better in time IMO. Recomp is what we all want but naturally it takes time. I would say it really speeds up the process but it still takes a 3-4 weeks or longer to notice the physical changes. Though I will say the body temp, sweating, and endurance seem to kick in within that time span as well.
Thanks for the reply… should I stick to 3 pumps or bump it to 4? How much do you think where you apply it affects it?
 
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I think I would stick to three for a bit. I always ran 4ml of a 50mg/ml and loved that dose. Three pumps gets you more than that so I think that’s good for now. Maybe in a few weeks you could up to 4 but I don’t think it’s necessary.

I rotate application areas (top of feet, back of knees, inner thigh, ribs, chest, clavicle/traps). As long as you are going in any of those areas you are good. And honestly probably not a huge loss if it’s elsewhere but I like XPG since it isn’t a ton you have to spread around.
 

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hello i want to ask from people that has already try 11-keto trandermal vs the ursa-gel? are there any similarities in term of body recomposition/fat loss? i know the one is like a prohormone and the other is natural!
 
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hello i want to ask from people that has already try 11-keto trandermal vs the ursa-gel? are there any similarities in term of body recomposition/fat loss? i know the one is like a prohormone and the other is natural!
They work differently and 11-Keto is something that you shouldn't use for long periods of time, whereas the results with Ursa-Gel continue to build and get better with time.

There's also no worries of support supplements or PCT with Ursa-Gel.
 

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They work differently and 11-Keto is something that you shouldn't use for long periods of time, whereas the results with Ursa-Gel continue to build and get better with time.

There's also no worries of support supplements or PCT with Ursa-Gel.
Yeah but in terms of results you see similar results in terms of body recomposition? Can it work on a diet to keep your muscles or even add lean mass ?
 
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Yeah but in terms of results you see similar results in terms of body recomposition? Can it work on a diet to keep your muscles or even add lean mass ?
Ursa-Gel is mainly used for body-recomposition - for helping to build muscle and lose fat.

Yes, it is used while dieting to help you not lose muscle.

Yes, you may be able to add lean muscle while dieting (recomposition), especially if your diet and training is set up accordingly.
 

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How long after application you can do a shower ? If you sweat after application for an example when you run it will leave the skin and you loss from the application ?
 
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How long after application you can do a shower ? If you sweat after application for an example when you run it will leave the skin and you loss from the application ?
I would wait at least a few hours before showering.

If you were to sweat profusely soon as rubbing it on, you may lose some but you would have to be sweating big time for it to probably make a huge difference.
 

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I would wait at least a few hours before showering.

If you were to sweat profusely soon as rubbing it on, you may lose some but you would have to be sweating big time for it to probably make a huge difference.
Thanks for answer ! I do 3 pumps 30 min before training ! So it’s safe to do aerobic after 30 min right ? And the dosage it’s good ?
 
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Thanks for answer ! I do 3 pumps 30 min before training ! So it’s safe to do aerobic after 30 min right ? And the dosage it’s good ?
I don't think there would be an issue with doing aerobics afterwards. If you really wanted to be certain, you could move it to 1 hour before you train.

People dose Ursa-Gel differently and time it different ways. I would say that 3 ml is a pretty common dose. Some people use it all at one time and others would use 2 pre and then 1 to 2 ml at another time of the day.

It's important to use it daily, not just on workout days.
 

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I don't think there would be an issue with doing aerobics afterwards. If you really wanted to be certain, you could move it to 1 hour before you train.

People dose Ursa-Gel differently and time it different ways. I would say that 3 ml is a pretty common dose. Some people use it all at one time and others would use 2 pre and then 1 to 2 ml at another time of the day.

It's important to use it daily, not just on workout days.
So I can apply 4 pumps all at once ?
 
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So I can apply 4 pumps all at once ?
Some people do.

I personally prefer to space it out and do 2 ml twice per day. The reason being that I'm a fan of trying to keep things in your system for best results.
 

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Some people do.

I personally prefer to space it out and do 2 ml twice per day. The reason being that I'm a fan of trying to keep things in your system for best results.
can i mix it with
moisturizing cream? cause if i apply it alone it will leaves a white coating on the skin and i am afraid will lose product with that but with a moisturizing cream its all good !
 
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can i mix it with
moisturizing cream? cause if i apply it alone it will leaves a white coating on the skin and i am afraid will lose product with that but with a moisturizing cream its all good !
No, I would not do that.

Moisturizing cream is for the skin - its meant to stay on or in the skin.
A topical product is meant to carry ingredients through the skin into the bloodstream.

For a topical product, it is the role of the carrier to transport the active ingredients through the skin and into the bloodstream.
You cannot physically rub something through your skin - it is the job of the carrier in the product.
That's why we say rub the product on, not rub the product in.

The Xtreme Performance Gels products utilize the Avant Labs carrier, which has long been known as the gold standard for topical carriers because of how effective they are.

In this case, the product is white - there's no avoiding that unless people wanted the product to be less potent.
When you apply something white to the skin, its natural that there may be a white residue, which is usually not visible long after you put it on. It's also more visible on certain skin types. That does not mean you're not absorbing the active ingredient.
 

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No, I would not do that.

Moisturizing cream is for the skin - its meant to stay on or in the skin.
A topical product is meant to carry ingredients through the skin into the bloodstream.

For a topical product, it is the role of the carrier to transport the active ingredients through the skin and into the bloodstream.
You cannot physically rub something through your skin - it is the job of the carrier in the product.
That's why we say rub the product on, not rub the product in.

The Xtreme Performance Gels products utilize the Avant Labs carrier, which has long been known as the gold standard for topical carriers because of how effective they are.

In this case, the product is white - there's no avoiding that unless people wanted the product to be less potent.
When you apply something white to the skin, its natural that there may be a white residue, which is usually not visible long after you put it on. It's also more visible on certain skin types. That does not mean you're not absorbing the active ingredient.
When I say mix I mean first apply the moisturize cream and then you put the gel on the moisturized skin ! Am I do that correct ? If I apply it without first moisturize the skin then it leaves a white thing
 
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When I say mix I mean first apply the moisturize cream and then you put the gel on the moisturized skin ! Am I do that correct ? If I apply it without first moisturize the skin then it leaves a white thing
That's fine. You can do that if you want to.

White residue on the skin does NOT mean that you aren't absorbing it though.
 
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What app are you using? This looks different than the 75 hard app I downloaded.
I think you may have posted that in the wrong thread?
 

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what you have to answer at this article that say
Ursolic acid has no additional effect on muscle strength and mass in active men undergoing a high-protein diet and resistance training??

 
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what you have to answer at this article that say
We live in a world where there are so many studies that you can find a study to say almost anything that you want it to. A group of us were discussing this a few weeks back - and I provided an example of a study that if you read it, you would think that drinking a gallon of water a day could kill you. Yet most bodybuilders exceed that amount regularly.

The point is that if you have multiple studies showing one thing and one study showing something else, do you choose to believe the majority of studies or the one that says something different?

An example - there are hundreds of studies showing the benefits of curcumin, but there are a couple showing that it didn't do anything. Do you believe the hundreds that showed it does along with the real world feedback supporting them? Or do you choose to believe the couple saying it doesn't?

You chose to post one Brazilian study that showed no results.
Why not post the studies that showed that it does support building muscle?
Why not post the ones showing that its potential for helping with sarcopenia (muscle wasting)?
Why not post the ones showing it has anti-cancer benefits?
Or the ones showing its cardioprotective properties?
What about the studies showing its anti-obesity and anti-diabetic benefits?

My point is - objectivity.

On any subject, why focus on the one study that shows something different than all the rest and let it influence your opinion and seemingly lead you to disregarding all the positive ones?

There are dozens, if not hundreds of studies showing that Ursolic Acid supports building muscle, maintaining muscle, improving body-composition, and so many more things beneficial to overall health.

I hope that makes sense.

Also, there are literally probably 10+ years of great feedback on muscle building and body-composition benefits related to Ursolic Acid supplementation and 5+ years of feedback on topical/td having even greater results.

There are tons of studies on Ursolic Acid showing positive benefits, but I'll take real world results over studies any day regardless.
 

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We live in a world where there are so many studies that you can find a study to say almost anything that you want it to. A group of us were discussing this a few weeks back - and I provided an example of a study that if you read it, you would think that drinking a gallon of water a day could kill you. Yet most bodybuilders exceed that amount regularly.

The point is that if you have multiple studies showing one thing and one study showing something else, do you choose to believe the majority of studies or the one that says something different?

An example - there are hundreds of studies showing the benefits of curcumin, but there are a couple showing that it didn't do anything. Do you believe the hundreds that showed it does along with the real world feedback supporting them? Or do you choose to believe the couple saying it doesn't?

You chose to post one Brazilian study that showed no results.
Why not post the studies that showed that it does support building muscle?
Why not post the ones showing that its potential for helping with sarcopenia (muscle wasting)?
Why not post the ones showing it has anti-cancer benefits?
Or the ones showing its cardioprotective properties?
What about the studies showing its anti-obesity and anti-diabetic benefits?

My point is - objectivity.

On any subject, why focus on the one study that shows something different than all the rest and let it influence your opinion and seemingly lead you to disregarding all the positive ones?

There are dozens, if not hundreds of studies showing that Ursolic Acid supports building muscle, maintaining muscle, improving body-composition, and so many more things beneficial to overall health.

I hope that makes sense.

Also, there are literally probably 10+ years of great feedback on muscle building and body-composition benefits related to Ursolic Acid supplementation and 5+ years of feedback on topical/td having even greater results.

There are tons of studies on Ursolic Acid showing positive benefits, but I'll take real world results over studies any day regardless.
Thanks for answer ! Can we use this gel for women and if yea what about the dosage ?
 
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Thanks for answer ! Can we use this gel for women and if yea what about the dosage ?
Yes, women can use Ursa-Gel. Same dosing as men - 2 to 4 ml per day.

Ursa-Gel is very popular with women because most women want to lose fat &/or stay lean while they build muscle.
 

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i have used about a grand worth of transdermal ursolic acid over the past 4 years and the only thing i really noted was fat loss starting at about the 9th week mark and peaked after 3 months on, maybe a little bit more endurance during cardio but that could be due to weight reduction, its amazing how a 5-7lb weight loss can help w endurance
 

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i have used about a grand worth of transdermal ursolic acid over the past 4 years and the only thing i really noted was fat loss starting at about the 9th week mark and peaked after 3 months on, maybe a little bit more endurance during cardio but that could be due to weight reduction, its amazing how a 5-7lb weight loss can help w endurance
But what about lean muscle ?
 

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