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X-FACTOR LOG 1250 MG DAY + Ecdysten

DAY 20

Okay, here we are, sitting here, in the middle of x-factor's cycle, all the best to come. I also decided to stay with 6 ecdysten, and switch to 9 as soon as x-factor is done to see if it helps. Thanks to everyone's tips about nutrition. I did some groceries(Again! 3rd time this week :jaw: ) And I will add the following: 1 banana, 1 apple, 2 cheestrings, and oatmeal will be 1 cup instead of 2/3 cup. I just needed more carbs and fat probably, but I was not punished at all by what I did in the past 20 days, as I stayed pretty lean, and want to stay that way. I will do this for the next 20 days, and will see how it goes. Tomorrow morning will be on the scale. Promise. I forgot this morning:blink:
 
Leggo my Ego said:
jjohn, doing a good job, bro!!! keep up the good work
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Thanks! I do my best. I hopped on the scale this morning, and saw that I am 178.2 lbs. Almost up one pound. I definetly see better definition and very good pumps. I also have very oily skin about 45 minutes after I take it. So its doing it's thing ;)
 
DAY 21

Today was a very good day and felt an awesome pump and pain in chest, forearms, and abs.

I did

Bench press 135, 135, 135, 115. 4 sets 8-10
Incline dumbell press 40. 40, 40, 40 4 sets 8-10
Machine flys 115, 115, 115, 115 4 sets 8-10
Decline dumbell press 45, 45, 45, 45 4 sets 6

Sitting forearms barbell 35, 35, 35 3 sets 25
Standing forearms barbell 40, 40, 40 3 sets 25

Leg raises 2 sets 30
Machine crunches 2 sets 40

I am feeling full now because of the appetite suppresion of AMP. As soon as I start to eat, I get hungry again :blink:. I will try to eat that supper and not puke it ;)
I am burned right now, got shakes a little from AMP, and feeling great about what has been accomplished so far. I really hope you guys enjoy reading this as it helps me stay on track :)
 
X-Factor and ecdysterone is a decent stack. I did Anagen with XF and was quite please. If Ecdysten is indeed some ultra quality ecdy extract, then the results must be great.

BTW, this is an awesome log. Heh, I tried to use Fitday once... to complicated for me. :blink:
 
Aeternitatis said:
X-Factor and ecdysterone is a decent stack. I did Anagen with XF and was quite please. If Ecdysten is indeed some ultra quality ecdy extract, then the results must be great.

BTW, this is an awesome log. Heh, I tried to use Fitday once... to complicated for me. :blink:
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Easy as 1,2,3, except there are no brands of whey, and I had to take soya. Just to give an idea though..
 
DAY 22

Today was leg day. I did

Sumo barbell deads. 145, 145, 145 6-8 reps
Barbett deadlifts 195, 195, 195 6-8 reps
T-bar deadlifts 70, 135, 135 6-8 reps
Leg extensions 70, 70, 30 reps(10 toes in, 10 toes out, 10 reg.)
Calf raises, w/static 30 sec. 180 lbs then static 10 sec. 180 lbs

I was on fire, and ready to give my 100%! I know tomorrow will be hard to wake up, as I am sore, tired, and working tomorrow morning. Great leg workout!
 
max silver said:
What's a barbett deadlift? I don't think I've ever heard of those before.
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Oops. haha. Sorry.

Just a quick update: Legs and lower back feels very good, and I feel I need more rest these days. Good thing ;)
 
DAY 23

Today I had a good power nap in the afternoon, and hit the gym right after for a small, but intense back workout.

I did
Bent over row (dumbell) 40, 40, 40, 35 8 reps
reverse grip pull downs 120, 120, 120, 120 8-10 reps
dumbell pullovers 35, 35, 35, 35 8 reps

I felt a good burn, a little pump in the lats. I find it very hard to pump the lats, but managed to feel it very well, and another succesfull workout, and diet is the same as the pic shown before. I feel like a freak on this stuff :twisted:
 
DAY 24

Today was a very good day. I did some shoulders and biceps.

I did:
Upright dumbell rows 20, 20, 20 8-10 reps
barbell shrugs 205, 205, 205 8-10 reps
lateral dumbell raise 20, 20, 20 8-10 reps

Cable curls 60, 60, 60 6-8 reps
reverse preacher curls 25, 25, 25 6-8 reps
Seated dumbell curls 30, 30, 30 8-10 reps

I am feeling sore just about everywhere. I love that felling :) Have oily skin, but surprisingly, no acne! 10/10 so far ;)
 
I had some acne on my first cycle of x-factor. Even though it's not a pro-hormone, it increases testosterone and without causing a loss on test once you are done with the cycle. This is why everyone who gain mass on this product keep the weight on, as no PCT is required. Hope I answered your question.
 
Yeah I don't have too much knowledge whatsoever on prohormones and stuff of that type but yes you answered my questions.

Higher test levels = Higher production of acne

Did I get it?:icon_lol:
 
DAY 25

I did some triceps today along with some obliques. Felt great, and 2 guys told me I looked larger, and my roommate told me too yesterday. I cant wait to weight at day 30. I look leaner, and my skin is always stretched like crazy.

I did:

Close-grip bench 115, 115, 115 6-8 reps
reverse one-arm triceps pulldown 30, 30, 30 6-8 reps
Triceps kickback 10, 10, 10 12 reps (proper form is key here, and feeling the pain is what counts!)

Wow is the only thing I can say, and I love it. Comments and suggestions are welcome!
 
DAY 26

Today was an off day. I worked all day moving boxes, so I will count that as a cardio day as I was sweating pretty much. I feel more oil on my face, but still, no acne :) MN is my god!:good:
 
DAY 27

This is an off day, I am feeling wonderfull, and my muscles feel full and I feel a lot more definition has appeared. I am upping the calories. I will add 7 rice cakes, regular, which is 245 calories and is perfect and convenient.
 
DAY 28

Today was phenomenal. I did some chest, along with some biceps, and I was on fire!

I did:
Incline barbell press 35, 35, 35, 35 8-10 reps
Flat barbell press 35, 35, 35, 35 8-10 reps
decline barbell press 35, 35, 35, 35 8-10 reps
Cable crossovers 15, 17.5, 17.5, 17.5 8-10 reps
(Chest felt awesome, and huge!)

Incline dumbell curls 30, 30, 30, 25 8-10 reps
Seated hammer curls 35, 35, 35, 35 8-10 reps
Concentration curls 20, 20, 20, 20 8-10 reps

The pump I get out of this is just priceless. I dont want to stop! I feel so full of food right now, it's unbeleivable. I have been eating clean all cycle, and 2 days left 'til I hop on the scale!
 
DAY 29

Today was leg day. Awesome workout, and really good pump.

I did:
Dumbell romanian deadlifts 75, 75, 75, 75 8-10
Dumbell stiff-legged deadlifts 70, 70, 70, 70 8-10
Leg extensions 2 sets 30 reps 90, 90(in, out, parallel)
Standing calves 2 sets 30 reps 195, 195

I love this product. Tomorrow we'll see what the scale thinks about my efforts ;)
 
Every workout is different buddy. I repeat every 4 weeks. Next week on legs, I will do different exercises to keep shocking bodyparts. I love this as you never get used to exercises, and every workout is like a new one. Even if strength doesnt climb up very fast, like I said, I train for the size, and to isolate muscle groups. This way, motivation is always up, and pain is at it's meeting ;) You want me to do squats next week? Consider it done. :)
 
jjohn said:
Every workout is different buddy. I repeat every 4 weeks. Next week on legs, I will do different exercises to keep shocking bodyparts. I love this as you never get used to exercises, and every workout is like a new one. Even if strength doesnt climb up very fast, like I said, I train for the size, and to isolate muscle groups. This way, motivation is always up, and pain is at it's meeting ;) You want me to do squats next week? Consider it done. :)
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Weight this morning is: 179.4. I have lost 1/4" on my waist? :jaw: How can I eat more? I just added 7 rice cakes, so we'll see what happends.

Up 2 lbs. and leaner than before. I notice a huge difference in my abs and arms.
 
DAY 30

Okay, like I said, weight is going up, as bf% is visibly dropping. Nice, considering the fact I am eating 3300 cal. a day, and work sitting all day! I did:

Barbell rows 95, 105, 105, 105 8-10 reps
Wide-grip pulley pull downs 120, 120, 120, 75 8-10 reps + static 20 sec.
Dumbell pullovers 40, 40, 40, 40 8-10 reps
Back extensions 4 sets 15 reps

Really hope to reach 182, with a leaner physique at day 40. Objective is set, just have to do it ;):bb2:
 
DAY 31

Everything is still going well today. I had a cheat meal for lunch, a club sandwich, with starbucks dessert ;) Nice...
Okay, let's get serious. I did a good workout, did not take any supplements, and felt the shakes, and intensity was higher than ever. I am still wondering why. Anyways, I forgot my workout sheet, so I did not note down what I did. I did blast my shoulders though with some

Press behind neck
Dumbell presses
Dumbel shrugs
Low-pulley shrugs
Low-pulley lateral raise
Dumbell lateral raise

All of them are 4 sets approx 8-10 reps. Nice workout, and I have another one tomorrow morning. Cant wait!
 
DAY 32

Oh boy, this was a big stressfull day. I get at work, and nobody's there, I was alone taking plenty of calls, etc... Then, I got to the gym(Best part of my day by far) did some:

Incline french presses 45, 50, 50, 50 8-10 reps
Close-grip bench press 95, 95, 95, 95 8-10 reps
Rope pulldown 30, 30, 30, 30 12 reps

Leg raises 3 x 30
high pulley rope crunches 90, 90, 90 15 reps
Side bent 30, 30, 30 15 reps

Then, off the gym, I go to my other job, where I finish at 9:00 and head off to see my parents. After 20 minutes of road, a ****ing dumbass ******* does a u-turn right in my face:jaw: and you imagine..... Bam! I hit the dumbass and he ****in runs away! God dammit. Anyways, I have a tough toyota, so I managed to drive it all the way up to my home. A long 50 minutes... Then called cops, we'll see if they can catch him... Wow, what a day. Now I got a headache. I dont beleive it's from x-factor though.. Let's say I've had a pretty rough night..
 
DAY 33 & 34

These were off days where I had the week-end off, and did some work around the house. My skin is getting very oily, but only 2 pimples showed in my face yet. I feel great, and need a lot of rest to keep gaining. Everything is in check, and no cheating this week-end, even if I had to suffer a little from BBQ parties, and the god damn cheese and crackers platter on the table ;) Tomorrow will be a serious training. Cant wait :)
 
Hey man, this is a great log your keeping. I am thinking about running an XF + Anagen log eventually, so this is great to read to see how well it works. I just have one question though, I have read other people mention that XF increases appetite, have you experienced this?? I have a huge appetite already and I am not a big guy, so I've wondered if this would just destroy me. Keep up the work man, looking good!!
 
lilkev42 said:
Hey man, this is a great log your keeping. I am thinking about running an XF + Anagen log eventually, so this is great to read to see how well it works. I just have one question though, I have read other people mention that XF increases appetite, have you experienced this?? I have a huge appetite already and I am not a big guy, so I've wondered if this would just destroy me. Keep up the work man, looking good!!
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Thanks for the kind words man. Yes, it does increase appetite. But look at it this way: The more you eat clean food, and keep yourself full, cut refined sugars, and eat rice, oatmeal, plenty of cottage cheese, whey, etc.. Allow yourself one reasonable cheat day a week, and once you're into it, it will be pretty easy. Look at my diet on the previous pages and you will see that eating 8 times a day makes you feel full all the time. I often feel bloated, and am still hungry. When this happends, I take an AMP, and I am okay for the day, because the appetite suppresion on this one is one of the best around.

Best of luck for your upcoming cycle.
 
DAY 35

This was a seriously good day. It was hot and humid outside. I felt an extremely good pump today.

Decline Dumbbell Presses - 6-8 Reps 45, 50, 50
Flat Dumbbell Presses - 6-8 Reps 60, 50, 50
Incline Dumbbell Presses - 6-8 Reps 45, 50, 50
Incline Dumbbell Flyes - 6-8 Reps 25, 25, 25

BICEPS:
Standing Dumbbell Curls - 6-8 Reps 35, 35, 35
Barbell Curls - 6-8 Reps 65, 65, 65
Standing Dumbbell Hammer Curls - 6-8 Reps 45, 45, 45

Okay, now I have 4 days left until X-Factor is done, so I will start up some JW, and crank up Ecdysten to 8 a day. I have 1 bottle remaining and it should last another 12 days. JW should not affect anything until the end of the ecdy cycle, IMO, and will start to kick in as soon as Ecdysten is done ;)
 
jjohn said:
Thanks for the kind words man. Yes, it does increase appetite. But look at it this way: The more you eat clean food, and keep yourself full, cut refined sugars, and eat rice, oatmeal, plenty of cottage cheese, whey, etc.. Allow yourself one reasonable cheat day a week, and once you're into it, it will be pretty easy. Look at my diet on the previous pages and you will see that eating 8 times a day makes you feel full all the time. I often feel bloated, and am still hungry. When this happends, I take an AMP, and I am okay for the day, because the appetite suppresion on this one is one of the best around.

Best of luck for your upcoming cycle.
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Thanks for the tips, I usually eat around 6-7 clean meals a day now, so the diet shouldn't bother me. I just think I'll invest in some AMP, since from what I have tried, I loved it. Used it for energy and focus more than the appetite suppresion. I will have to try it other than pre-workout. Thanks again, and keep it up.
 
Nice log.

Does anyone have any empirical data on Ecdysten? I've searched around and found none. Also, I been taking a multi-vitamin for over 20 years which contains NAC at 1,200 mgs/day. I really don't want to stop the MV so I'm guessing X-factor is out of the question.
 
jtt said:
Nice log.

Does anyone have any empirical data on Ecdysten? I've searched around and found none. Also, I been taking a multi-vitamin for over 20 years which contains NAC at 1,200 mgs/day. I really don't want to stop the MV so I'm guessing X-factor is out of the question.
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Thanks. The only way to go is to stop the MV, and replace with another brand while you do your XF cycle. The Ecdy is pretty weird. It all depends on the purity of the extract. I have tried Scifit's ecdy, and no results, but now I really feel more from it. And 15 mg. each pill is pretty realistic. I hope e-bol will come out soon. X-Factor can also cause joint pain, but it does not mean that it will totally counteract the product. Just that you will have less significant effects.
 
DAY 36

Today felt really good, but I found the workout to be short. When I got down the stairs in my basement, this is when I was proud of the effort I put in. I did legs, Shocker: I DID SQUATS ;)

Barbell Squats 135, 155, 155 8 reps
Stiff leg deadlifts 145, 165, 165 8 reps
Leg extensions 70, 210, 195, then 30 static with 90 (8 reps)
Standing calf raises machine 2 x 30 reps (in, out, parallel)

Well, I upped the dose to 8 Ecdy a day, did not noticed a difference yet. We'll see tomorrow. I will keep it going on until I end with Ecdysten.
 
DAY 37

Today was a short and sweet workout. I did back:

T -Bar row 135, 90, 90 8 reps
Reverse-grip pulldowns 120, 120, 120 8 reps
Dumbell pullovers 45, 50, 50 8 reps

I left my keys in my car, and spent a lot of time trying to open the door, so that's why my workout did not include abs :(
 
DAY 38

I have had a very good day today. I felt like my skin could tear up. I love it. This is one of the best day I have had in all the cycle.

I did:
Shoulders
Press behind neck 105, 115, 105 6-8 reps
Side lateral raise dumbell 15, 15, 15 6-8 reps
Front dumbell raise 15, 15, 15 6-8 reps
(Barbell shrugs bar in front 20 reps, then barbell shrugs bar behind back 20 reps) 3 supersets of 135

Triceps
Close-grip bench-press 95, 105, 105 6-8 reps
Reverse close-grip bench 65, 65, 65 6-8 reps.
Straight bar pushdowns 60, 60, 60 6-8 reps.

I was so pumped I found it hard to get my t-shirt off! wow. I dont know if the ecdysten at 8 a day makes a difference like that, but something was driving me all the workout!
 
DAY 39

Only one day left on XF. It's been great. I will post my weight tomorrow, as I dont even know how much it is as of now. I did some mixed forearms and abs today. Took it relax, but really felt the forearms pump, and the abs were really well done. Cant wait until tomorrow. I will still keep my log on for the remaining of Ecdy just to see if the gains are still coming ;)

Peace
 
DAY 40

It's done. I just took the last taste of x-Factor today until my next cycle gets back. My weight is 181.5, and my waist is 34.5, which is about what it was at the beginning of the cycle. So all in all, I would say I gained around 4-5 pounds in LBM from day 10. So probably a rough guess would be a good 6 lbs gain, with no fat gain at all! :jaw: Wow. I loved it. Next XF cycle will be the normal 50 day cycle to compare. I highly recommend those products as they will get the pounds on!
 
somewhatgifted said:
Nice log how can you justify the cost/benefit ratio of x factor, its kinda pricey, just curious.
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Really worth it. Buy it, and it's not money wasted. Why? It works and gives great results like you just saw, and I will buy some more as long as it exists ;) The really big + is no PCT is needed and all gains are kept, so this is priceless IMO, and a lot ssfer than hormone precursors..
 
jjohn said:
Really worth it. Buy it, and it's not money wasted. Why? It works and gives great results like you just saw, and I will buy some more as long as it exists ;) The really big + is no post cycle therapy is needed and all gains are kept, so this is priceless IMO, and a lot ssfer than hormone precursors..
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How many cycles have you ran? just wondering about cost as it is a fatty acid, no?
 
I have done 2 so far. I will do another one in 40 days approx. You don't pay for the AA, but for all the research these guys have done and bringing it to the bodybuilder's world. ;)
 
jtt said:
Nice log.

Does anyone have any empirical data on Ecdysten? I've searched around and found none. Also, I been taking a multi-vitamin for over 20 years which contains NAC at 1,200 mgs/day. I really don't want to stop the MV so I'm guessing X-factor is out of the question.
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NAC is not a problem with X-Factor.

We've got a new FAQ coming out that will explain the changes in directions. But basically, most of what was once off-limits is now okay.
 
canadian champ said:
How many caps a day were you taking?
cc
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I took 5 caps a day of XF. It lasts 40 days instead of 50 days. You should really get some man, you won't be dissapointed..
 
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