Marcoswilly
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Super Mandro
Andro the Giant
Protex
Pct
Clomid
Rebirth
Andro the Giant
Protex
Pct
Clomid
Rebirth
Would love some feedback on how this cycle looks. Should I add anything?
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Marcoswilly
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Thank you for responding. I am planning an 8 week cycle. ProteX from Vital labs contains Milk Thistle N-Acetyl Cysteine, Alpha Lopic Acid, Selenium. I was not sure if Clomid would be solely sufficient enough as a PCT after seeing what others ran but if others more experienced believe it is I would just run that. Would you recommend adding anything else?
KvanH
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Clomid is enough on it's own. It's the strongest serm for hpta restart there is. 50/50/25/25 seems to be a popular dosing scheme, but nothing wrong with going 50/50/50/50.
8 Weeks is a good lenght for Andros. 330 mg is a decent dose for both. If lethargy gets bad, could try upping the 4-Andro. There's allways the Epiandro/Androsterone (PH's to DHT) to kind of complete the Andro stack, but it's not necessary. The 1-Andro will do most of the work.
The cycle support products I've used have a bit more stuff in them than the Protex, but it has some good ingridients and should be fine with this cycle. If blood pressure gets high, you could try Carditone. Or Hawthorn berry, Celery seed, Coq 10, grape seed..
Some cortisol lowering product in pct is never a bad idea, but can't really say how important it is. I usually have some kind of cort control in pct.
Is this your first cycle? Probably won't be your last. Getting bloods and checking your hormonal panel would be a good idea before cycle, so you can check them again after cycle and see how you recovered and what is happening in your body before deciding to go for another run.
Oh yeah and even though you probably won't need any with this stack, you should allways have an AI on hand when running something hormonal. Exemestane is a good choice and can be found from the board sponsors like MAResearchems for example.
Marcoswilly
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I want to thank you for how helpful you have been. This is my first cycle since I was 20, when I did it incorrectly off of the advice of a friend. I would like to start as soon as I can get back in an actual gym. Your suggestions are greatly appreciated and I can’t wait to get started. What is your go to PCT?
KvanH
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No problem mate. Of the serms I have only used Tamoxifen. In theory it's not as strong for hpta restart as Clomid, but it's strong enough and it protects from possible gyno better. Clomid is also known to give mood issues to some people, but it's individual. If you'd want to get fancy you could get Toremifene. It has similar properties to Tamox, but with lesser sides, if I'm not mistaken. Or Enclomifene - it's Clomid without the zuclomifene that is giving some people mood issues. Might be harder to find though.
In addition to the Tamox last time I used Sustain Alpha for mood and libido. For cort control I used Arimistane, but there are a lot better products for that. I just had a bottle laying around and wanted to save some money by using that. Something like SNS Reduce XT, Iron Legion Invictus, b-aet product would be good choices for cort control.
Many like to add an otc T booster of their choice to their pct stack. CEL M-Test is very popular and I'm going to have that in my next pct. The T booster is more like a cherry on top and the serm is the foundation. So the T booster is not a must by any means, but if funds allow, add it. I think most people run the T booster with the serm starting immediatly when cycle ends, but I personally see it differently. I think the serm is going to kick start the T production and keep test 'high' as long as it's been taken, so I'll start the M-Test when I finish the serm, but that's just me.
I have a few good threads in my mind I think you could benefit from reading. I'll try to to find them and post here.
