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Winter Bulk Log:Tr3st/DMZ 2.0/Yeti

bighulksmash said:
Yes rolling it over and over and over . Lift with golds gym gloves like me with the wrist straps . Order some cissus xt from phwsupplements. Take a few days off and see of it still hurts . Explain the location and level of pain u have .
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Thx for the info brother!! I'll definitely look into rolling ****.. And it's right under my right thumb when I bend my hand forward or grip something to hard.. It's weird because the pain comes and goes. It seems worst early in the morning and late at night..
 
jacobcook91 said:
Thx for the info brother!! I'll definitely look into rolling ****.. And it's right under my right thumb when I bend my hand forward or grip something to hard.. It's weird because the pain comes and goes. It seems worst early in the morning and late at night..
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Any other joints sore ? Are u still using AI?
Have u recently increased the weight you lift?
 
bighulksmash said:
Any other joints sore ? Are u still using AI?
Have u recently increased the weight you lift?
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no other joint issues that I've seen; just lower back pumps, which is definitely within normal ranges, and the occasional shoulder pain, which is also totally normal for me.

As for as the AI goes, I've been trying to limit it to eod or every 3 days because I know it can dry out the joints.
 
jacobcook91 said:
no other joint issues that I've seen; just lower back pumps, which is definitely within normal ranges, and the occasional shoulder pain, which is also totally normal for me.

As for as the AI goes, I've been trying to limit it to eod or every 3 days because I know it can dry out the joints.
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How you feeling today ?
 
A bit better... The wrist is still annoying though...

Also i am feeling more energy and power in the gym!!!! The fullness of my muscle and overall improvement is amazing!!! this stack is going very well.
 
Hey fam,
I am 3 days into week 4, and have started the yeti to run concurrently with my last week of the DMZ 2.0. I have really started to see a noticeable size difference aesthetically speaking in terms of gains, and my strength gains thus far have been through the roof as well.
Last week I hit 375 on Deads, and 295 on squats, both without a belt, and had no problems in terms of stability of power. With the squats I hit 4 reps, and in week 2 of my cycle, I struggled to hit 275 for the same amount of reps, and needed a belt for that one.
In terms of bench, I hit 315lbs for 5 reps, which is up from 275 in week 2.

For all of my other workouts my strength and endurance abilities have also increased.

In terms of downsides, since I added the Yeti, I have noticed a bit of bloating and puffy nipples, so I have increased my adex from .5ml e3d, to .5ml ed for the time being to help with that. If you have any other recommendations please let me know.

Also, I get a noticeable buzz from the Yeti which I can't recall having felt before with other stacks. It is similar to a powerful stimulant, and usually feel a bit lightheaded after taking it. Is this something I should be concerned about, or should I just notch it up to how powerful this supp is?
 
bighulksmash said:
Yeah !!!!! Your beyond killin it !!!!
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Yo I'm more than 230lbs finally, and I am looking ridiculous in the gym. 3 hour days are the norm now, and I'm hitting 315 on squats without a belt, 395 on deads, 330 on bench, and 1080 reps for arm day with much less fatigue than usual.
My arms are measuring 18-18.5 inches right now, and I'm feeling great.

Also, I'm thinking about bridging this cycle into a Trest/Epi/Tren cycle for cutting after I finish my PCT
 
jacobcook91 said:
Yo I'm more than 230lbs finally, and I am looking ridiculous in the gym. 3 hour days are the norm now, and I'm hitting 315 on squats without a belt, 395 on deads, 330 on bench, and 1080 reps for arm day with much less fatigue than usual.
My arms are measuring 18-18.5 inches right now, and I'm feeling great.

Also, I'm thinking about bridging this cycle into a Trest/Epi/Tren cycle for cutting after I finish my PCT
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Your liver must be screaming.
 
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Your liver must be screaming.
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Interestingly enough, this cycle has felt less harsh than anything else I've ever run... I don't know if it is because of my increased water intake (5+Liters/day), my relatively cleaner diet, or what, but I haven't had many problems in that dpt.
Test/Tren and Epi/Halo were the two most harsh cycles I've run thus far.
 
jacobcook91 said:
Yo I'm more than 230lbs finally, and I am looking ridiculous in the gym. 3 hour days are the norm now, and I'm hitting 315 on squats without a belt, 395 on deads, 330 on bench, and 1080 reps for arm day with much less fatigue than usual.
My arms are measuring 18-18.5 inches right now, and I'm feeling great.

Also, I'm thinking about bridging this cycle into a Trest/Epi/Tren cycle for cutting after I finish my PCT
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Good job son .. 3 more inches and you will catch me on arms.
 
by the way bighulksmash and everyone else keeping an eye on this, the Adex I picked up from IMR is either massively underdosed, or total bunk, because during the end of week three I started noticing extraordinarily puffy nipples, and ridiculous amounts of prolactin buildup. I've been increasing my doses and haven't noticed any changes at all. This past week I've gotten up to more than triple the recommended dosage and as far as I can tell, gyno/prolactin buildup hasn't decreased at all. I'm up to 1-2mg of adex/ day.

So, I've got letro coming in from another location that seems to be much more reliable, and am hoping this will accomplish what the adex couldn't.
 
jacobcook91 said:
by the way bighulksmash and everyone else keeping an eye on this, the Adex I picked up from IMR is either massively underdosed, or total bunk, because during the end of week three I started noticing extraordinarily puffy nipples, and ridiculous amounts of prolactin buildup. I've been increasing my doses and haven't noticed any changes at all. This past week I've gotten up to more than triple the recommended dosage and as far as I can tell, gyno/prolactin buildup hasn't decreased at all. I'm up to 1-2mg of adex/ day.

So, I've got letro coming in from another location that seems to be much more reliable, and am hoping this will accomplish what the adex couldn't.
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Sorry to hear that man.
 
bighulksmash said:
Sorry to hear that man.
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yeah, it hasn't impacted my gains or my nightlife; I'm still growing like crazy, and when I left for work this morning, there was a bikini model sleeping in my bed recovering from our nighttime cardio sesh (the only cardio I do during bulkcycles lawls).
Honestly the primary issue is aesthetics; I hate having sensitive btch tits, and having to worry about lactating on fcking chest day.

do you think adding an otc ai might help, or should I just wait for the letro?
 
jacobcook91 said:
yeah, it hasn't impacted my gains or my nightlife; I'm still growing like crazy, and when I left for work this morning, there was a bikini model sleeping in my bed recovering from our nighttime cardio sesh (the only cardio I do during bulkcycles lawls).
Honestly the primary issue is aesthetics; I hate having sensitive btch tits, and having to worry about lactating on fcking chest day.

do you think adding an otc ai might help, or should I just wait for the letro?
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No wait you may need prami if its prolactin induced rather than estrogen induced. You'll know the difference between the two, prolactin is like pudding filled sacs and estrogen is like hard lumps similar to golf balls.
 
bighulksmash said:
No wait you may need prami if its prolactin induced rather than estrogen induced. You'll know the difference between the two, prolactin is like pudding filled sacs and estrogen is like hard lumps similar to golf balls.
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I didn't know that... And I think I have a small hard lump under my left nipple, but my primary issure is definitely prolactin. both sides are definitely very puffy and pudding like.
And dayum!! I already have letro enroute... I thought that helped with prolactin build up.. Is prami going to be more effective actually?
 
Symptoms of High Prolactin
- low libido
- anorgasmia (delayed ejaculation)
- erectile dysfunction
- puffy or sensitive nipples
- discharge from nipples
- fatigue/lethargy
- depression
- suppressed testosterone production

Prolactin also can cause prostate problems in men. But one of the biggest problems prolactin is responsible for is increased suppression of testosterone. High levels of prolactin cause LH and FSH levels to lower, making pct very difficult or even unsuccessful.

So in addition to running an AI like Arimidex or Aromasin to take care of estrogen, we must also run ancillaries to take care of prolactin. Our most common choices are Cabergoline, Bromocriptine, and Pramipexole. Typically Cabergoline is recommended since it is easy to dose and must only be taken once or 2x a week. I will give a brief introduction of each option and their dosing protocol.

Pramipexole Pramipexole also known as mirapex, is a dopamine agonist similar to Cabergoline. It raises dopamine levels which lowers prolactin levels. Pramipexole is actually more effective in terms of prolactin supression. Prami is also low cost. Prami has many benefits in addition to prolactin suppression. Prami has been shown to increase GH levels by up to 300% (in normal healthy men)for 2 hours after dosing. Prami is also safe to use long term. Unlike Caber which can cause Cardiac and noncardiac fibrotic reactions.

Dosing:
The most important thing to know about Prami is you NEED to SLOWLY increase your dose. As slow as possible means more gradual change and less side effects. If done correctly you can have a very small amount of side effects or none at all.
Starting dose is typically 0.25mg, but if possible try half of this dose. So first few days do 0.125mg, after that if you have little to no bad sides, increase to 0.25mg.
For prolactin supression, 0.25mg ed is usually plenty, but you can go all the way up to 0.5mg if necessary.
Another thing is Prami is usually taken right at night about 1 hour before bedtime. This is because it can cause lethargy, which isn't a problem while you are sleeping. To get the GH benefits, you need to dose higher in the 1-2 mg range.


According to my doctor letro takes 60 days to reach blood plasma levels. Results will very . Exemestane killed my issues in less than a week , your combination of compounds and not taking precautionary measures is the cause . We have all been there . Anyone who says they have not been in your situation is full of horse shiit .
All we can do now is help you fix and hope u dont repeat this in the future.
 
bighulksmash
Thank you for the informative post regarding Prami seriously!!!
This is a very interesting topic for me because like I've said before, I've run multiple test/tren cycles, an Epi/halo stack, and a sarm stack more recently, and I've never had issues like this before. I've also never run ancillaries nor have I really heard about them...
I'll definitely get some prami to help fix this though.
Do you think I should run exem during the rest of this cycle or letro instead?
 
jacobcook91 said:
bighulksmash
Thank you for the informative post regarding Prami seriously!!!
This is a very interesting topic for me because like I've said before, I've run multiple test/tren cycles, an Epi/halo stack, and a sarm stack more recently, and I've never had issues like this before. I've also never run ancillaries nor have I really heard about them...
I'll definitely get some prami to help fix this though.
Do you think I should run exem during the rest of this cycle or letro instead?
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Im here to help man ive been there and an og from here who isn't around anymore helped me out.
 
jacobcook91 said:
I appreciate that brother. So should I run Prami through my PCT as well?
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See where the letro gets ya 1st .
I would address one thing at a time . Just me. Others may have different opinions. The letro if legit may kill it off ya gotta experiment.
 
bighulksmash said:
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See where the letro gets ya 1st .
I would address one thing at a time . Just me. Others may have different opinions. The letro if legit may kill it off ya gotta experiment.
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Alright sounds good brother. I'll start with Letro for now, and get some Prami just in case the letro doesn't handle all of it for me.

By the way, this whole cycle, I've been consistently growing stronger as well as larger... Trest is definitely going to be a future staple of stacks for me, and As this yeti is going into full swing I think I will be using yeti for future bulks as well.
 
jacobcook91 said:
Alright sounds good brother. I'll start with Letro for now, and get some Prami just in case the letro doesn't handle all of it for me.
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Hell yea . I usually have at least 3 weeks of anything i may need 3weeks before the cycle so 3 weeks after the cycle i can check my mail and it will appear .
 
Hey y'all, I'm a couple weeks out from the pct and these are the gains I kept!!! Invalid Link RemovedInvalid Link RemovedInvalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removed
 
I gained 32 wet lbs on cycle, and by the end if the pct I kept 20 lbs dry.. Now I am starting up a Havoc/1test/Mk 677 cycle!!! I'm excited to see what happens
 
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