Winter blast planning

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As we are around 6 weeks away I thought it was time to start planning my winter blast - help appreciated

background

39yr old. 6’2, 218 lbs at 12-13% bf, lifting 7 years (was a lazy really fat guy before that), started aas 3 years ago, been blast and cruise last 12 months or so.

previous cycles include pb’d, epistane, msten, 1-t, tbol, trest, sdrol, deca, tren (as part of a TTM stack) etc (obviously test as well)

generally I seem to respond well to 19nors, I’m pretty side tolerant and haven’t had many issues. Low doses of ai and caber have dealt with estro and prolactin when needed but I try to avoid using until needed.

goal for this blast is strength and size. Training program will be a specific powerlifting Program with bodybuilding accessory work for size. Aesthetically I have loose skin from my fatty days so I’m looking for size to fill that out more. Strength wise I want a 440lb squat +, a 550lb dead + and a 330lb bench (my arms are long and my bench is **** - it me more than it does you 😂)

starting end nov or early Dec. I have a full home gym so lockdowns etc won’t affect anything (I train at home regardless).

diet will be solid, I do allow myself the week between Xmas and new year to go to town on whatever I want. Carbs will increase a lot that week but there’s limited processed crap (Mainly eating home cooked cakes and pies Etc) but the rest of the time my nutrition is decent, protein intake is always high (normally 300g plus per day). Moderate carbs and fats.

I run 5 times a week with my dog, 5-8km. Will maintain that for cardiovascular health,

I won’t list all my daily supps here as it’ll just become too long but I take everything basically, from astragalus to fish oil to green tea to NAD to red yeast rice extract and beyond.

worth highlighting I do use metformin daily as well though.

So, to the fun part.....my current stash


Test cyp/sust/prop (lots)
Deca 2x300, 1x400
Tren 2x300
Inj superdrol 2x20mg
Tbol 200x20mg
Anadrol 150x50mg
Sdrol 50x20mg
Anavar 100x50mg
Proviron 200x 25mg
Peptides (various but not important -see below)
Hgh - will be ordering Chinese generic hgh for this run - enough for 3 or 4iu per day

my thoughts:

i normally run test at 350mg as early runs at higher yielded **** all but it turns out the place I was getting from at that time was massively underdosed - I have a very good ugl these days so want to go higher on test. I like a longer cycle so deca fits well. Extra carbs would lend itself to tren or sdrol

plan 1 - simple bulker
Weeks 1-16
Test c 600mg
Deca 600mg
week 1-8
Adrol 50-100mg E
Week 13-16
Sdrol 20mg Ed

plan 2 - (my current preferred option
Week 1-16
Test c 600mg
Deca 500mg
Tren 100mg
Week 1-7
Var
Week 12-16
Inj sdrol 80mg week

(can I get away with tren at that dose for 16 weeks is my big query?)

I feel like tbol will be better suited to a summertime run, maybe a recomp rather than wasting on this blast.
I’ve heard of people running adrol for 3 months plus and considered just doing that but I like the break mid run from the orals normally.

what do you think of the ideas above? Any others?

i have a cupload full of caber, asin, letro, ralox, cialis etc - basically all the supports are already in place and all pharma.
 
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thought I’d comment regarding the loose skin as I’m trying to do the same and fill out that area. I have been using a derma roller for 8 months and the improvement has been drastic, I nearly dismissed it thinking it wasn’t working and maybe another useless device but it’s awesome, only Need to use it once per month and Takes About 20 mins, so worth looking into.

looking forward to seeing what you go with because I’m looking to do a winter blast but after Xmas.
 
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thought I’d comment regarding the loose skin as I’m trying to do the same and fill out that area. I have been using a derma roller for 8 months and the improvement has been drastic, I nearly dismissed it thinking it wasn’t working and maybe another useless device but it’s awesome, only Need to use it once per month and Takes About 20 mins, so worth looking into.

looking forward to seeing what you go with because I’m looking to do a winter blast but after Xmas.
that’s really useful, thanks bro. I try so many thinks (collagen peptides, red light therapy, peptides (although haven’t tried GHK yet) but nothing making a massive difference (small improvements but I had quite a lot).

will defo try that, thanks again
 
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I really like option 2, although you never actually said how much tren you'll be taking. 300/week I'm guessing? It's all a little too advanced for me to put my 2 cents in on. Just jealous of you stash and options. Have you run tren before?
 
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You really seemed to have done a lot of gear in just 3 years. I like your first idea better. I would lower the test, but im just not a big test guy. I know most people are. I would cut the anadrol from 8 weeks to 6 at 100mg. Just for health reasons. So yea plan 1.
 
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I really like option 2, although you never actually said how much tren you'll be taking. 300/week I'm guessing? It's all a little too advanced for me to put my 2 cents in on. Just jealous of you stash and options. Have you run tren before?
sorry missed that - edited. Tren was just 100mg a week mainly for nutrient partitioning. I’ve run it as part of a cut stack and whilst I love the results the impact on sleep at 300mg I couldn’t cope with for 16 weeks - at 100mg a week I’m hoping to mitigate the sides but keep some of the benefits
 
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You really seemed to have done a lot of gear in just 3 years. I like your first idea better. I would lower the test, but im just not a big test guy. I know most people are. I would cut the anadrol from 8 weeks to 6 at 100mg. Just for health reasons. So yea plan 1.
thanks bro. I have been a low test guy but do fancy trying a cycle higher with good gear.

I stacked from early but yeah I’ve probably done more than is smart in three years. It’s been 2 cycles a year basically. Never tried adrol so appreciate the thoughts on that
 
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thanks bro. I have been a low test guy but do fancy trying a cycle higher with good gear.

I stacked from early but yeah I’ve probably done more than is smart in three years. It’s been 2 cycles a year basically. Never tried adrol so appreciate the thoughts on that
well if you never tried adrol, start at 50mg. I personally need 100 many like 50 though.
 
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well if you never tried adrol, start at 50mg. I personally need 100 many like 50 though.
yep I know that’s sage advice. Honestly I probably would have started at 50 just to gauge response but I seem to require higher doses of most things. I was the same with recreational drugs as well before I sobered up years back.

I don’t look the most jacked guy by a long shot but I’ve always had a heavier bodyweight than my physique suggests. Interesting when I was younger there used to be ‘guess your weight’ stands at theme parks where if the guy running the stall couldn’t guess your weight you won a prize (you’d paid for him to guess) - we always won as they always guessed low. Point of that story is that seemingly I need higher doses of most drugs which I’ve always presumed is that most drugs have some element of bodyweight related dosing (weed and mdma were the only two that I didn’t).
 
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Remember, when growing the food is as big of a driver as the drugs. You just used Tren so that’s a strike against it, and you aren’t doing a power meet, so that’s another reason not to use it now. Save it for cuts or comps. Peaking in training is not a good enough reason to use it IMO. It costs your longevity more than anything else, so save your shots.

Since you are using deca, I would consider sustanon (at least the first half of the run) over test c since you have it. Faster initial progress.

Figure out your total oil mg and run your test somewhere at 1:1 to 2:1 test vs deca. Then slap some Anadrol in there however you see fit and focus on your food. Some guys go 12 weeks, some do 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, some do kickers and finishers. Probably depends on how you respond to it.

You may get 2 weeks in and struggle to get your meals in. Probably need to rotate off of it if that happens. Anavar could be a great finisher for quality growth and strength paired with extra creatine.
 
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Remember, when growing the food is as big of a driver as the drugs. You just used Tren so that’s a strike against it, and you aren’t doing a power meet, so that’s another reason not to use it now. Save it for cuts or comps. Peaking in training is not a good enough reason to use it IMO. It costs your longevity more than anything else, so save your shots.

Since you are using deca, I would consider sustanon (at least the first half of the run) over test c since you have it. Faster initial progress.

Figure out your total oil mg and run your test somewhere at 1:1 to 2:1 test vs deca. Then slap some Anadrol in there however you see fit and focus on your food. Some guys go 12 weeks, some do 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, some do kickers and finishers. Probably depends on how you respond to it.

You may get 2 weeks in and struggle to get your meals in. Probably need to rotate off of it if that happens. Anavar could be a great finisher for quality growth and strength paired with extra creatine.
sage advice as always, thanks

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600 test
600 deca

I also like the idea of finishing with var

question is whether to kick with 6 weeks of inj sdrol or 8 weeks adrol???

i do really want to see the difference with inj sdrol (as I’ve run oral as l before) But pinning eod or more frequently is a pain in the ass (literally) 😂

I am confident food won’t be an issue. I have an ability to eat, even before on tren and sdrol etc even though I’ve not felt hungry I can just eat. 😀
 
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I would save the Sdrol and experiment with Anadrol now while using two compounds you are very familiar with.
 
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I would save the Sdrol and experiment with Anadrol now while using two compounds you are very familiar with.
I do want to see what Adrol can do.

I’m hoping to come out without too much fat gain so I can recomp over the summer rather than straight cutting. Maybe keep that one mild and go tbol and test.

I hate this period of a cruise. The first 6 weeks or so after finishing a blast you kinda enjoy the reduced intensity but around now I start to get the itch again 😂
 
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I do want to see what Adrol can do.

I’m hoping to come out without too much fat gain so I can recomp over the summer rather than straight cutting. Maybe keep that one mild and go tbol and test.

I hate this period of a cruise. The first 6 weeks or so after finishing a blast you kinda enjoy the reduced intensity but around now I start to get the itch again
Been off about 10 weeks and I am ready to get back on lol. Bloods in 2 weeks so that will keep off another 2 for sure, but Idk after that. Need to cut and I really don’t want to without anabolics so I’m just in limbo waiting.
 
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Been off about 10 weeks and I am ready to get back on lol. Bloods in 2 weeks so that will keep off another 2 for sure, but Idk after that. Need to cut and I really don’t want to without anabolics so I’m just in limbo waiting.
I really learnt the value of maintenance phases this year, ie maintaining the extra mass after a bulk and then the lower bw after a cut. Literally has made a huge difference in my progress.

I won’t try to bulk or cut off anabolics now, always just maintain
 
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I really learnt the value of maintenance phases this year, ie maintaining the extra mass after a bulk and then the lower bw after a cut. Literally has made a huge difference in my progress.

I won’t try to bulk or cut off anabolics now, always just maintain
Thank you I needed to hear this and stay patient. I know I will be better off holding my calories static and introducing the PEDs first initially, then lower cals, vs lowering them now to lose any weight without the cycle. Then I would be down muscle and maintenance calories from the start.
 

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