WINSTROL Kicker and Trenavar Finish?

FRITZBLITZ

FRITZBLITZ

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So after your advise I'm decided on doing a recomp with Test 150-200mg/ EQ 600mg/ Deca 500mg for a 20 week cycle. I'll also be taking T3, novalin R, metformin, and MK677. There are a few things I need to know.

How can I add a winstrol kicker without starting my cycle with crashed lipids? Or will my lipids rebound with such low Test and adding fish oil and RYR?

Secondary I was thinking of adding Trenavar for the last 8 weeks if I feel like it, but I have the original Trenavar not the Trendion. I just read that the oral precursor to Tren can shut you down and mess you up. This could be 1 person's experience but this would really suck as I bought 8 bottles for finishers since its the only non-methylated oral steroid that really gets results at 40-60mg.

Third I need some links to some good recomp diets with the knowledge that I'm 6'4 275 and I'm 255 without the fat. I have truly searched the web but there is not any recomp diets for building 25lbs of muscle and dropping 20lbs fat on a 275lbs man.
 
A recomp diet? Wat?

You should have some idea what your maintanence kcals are, hell even a ballpark idea...regulate CHO intake as you go along. You have 20wks to dial it in and modulate. You pretty much want to be holding your current bodyweight, right? Youre just going to have to be onto it considering youre likely to get an initial weight increase from the AAS. But, monitor stomach circumference with a tape measure, and obviously use some decent bodyweight scales.

I dont get whats hard about that? If your stats are right, youre already likely eating plenty protein.
 
Nac said:
A recomp diet? Wat?

You should have some idea what your maintanence kcals are, hell even a ballpark idea...regulate CHO intake as you go along. You have 20wks to dial it in and modulate. You pretty much want to be holding your current bodyweight, right? Youre just going to have to be onto it considering youre likely to get an initial weight increase from the AAS. But, monitor stomach circumference with a tape measure, and obviously use some decent bodyweight scales.

I dont get whats hard about that? If your stats are right, youre already likely eating plenty protein.
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I guess I'm just trying to explore an area that I'm not confident in. I know a lot about nutrition to solve issues but because of my work, I've always had a tough time perfecting my diet. I just go as low carb as my body/energy allows and fill the rest with veggies and protein
 
Again, dude, if your stats are right youre already 90% there, you just tweak sh1t to suit your goal? Cant you just manipulate your CHO intake so that your holding your bodyweight and minimally increasing stomach circumference week-to-week?

I mean, youre not a n0ob to nutrition, especially your own. If you can adjust carbs over time, its a pretty rudimentary variable to manipulate.

Have you tried a recomp of this magnitude before though? Ill be surprised if you dont ultimately turn this into a clean bulk or a cut.
 
Nac said:
Again, dude, if your stats are right youre already 90% there, you just tweak sh1t to suit your goal? Cant you just manipulate your CHO intake so that your holding your bodyweight and minimally increasing stomach circumference week-to-week?

I mean, youre not a n0ob to nutrition, especially your own. If you can adjust carbs over time, its a pretty rudimentary variable to manipulate.

Have you tried a recomp of this magnitude before though? Ill be surprised if you dont ultimately turn this into a clean bulk or a cut.
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Thanks for the vote of confidence. I might be over thinking things but you know how many things went wrong on my first recomp, Dr interrupted, crazy BW, and bunk AI. So I'm trying to dot every i so nothing can go wrong. I also like to have as many tweak options as possible I can slightly tweak my IM mg, want to be sure Trenavar is ok to add, and I like the sound of a winstrol kick at 50mg.

I've only ran winny as a finisher once. And I bought that Trenavar specifically to have as another tweak, mainly as a diff option to epistane. So really I'm double checking every aspect of this cycle so it runs even better than planned...I'll hit 285 cut and then cruise for a year and go from there
 
Winstrol is the best finnisher out there outside halotestin which nobody used and masteron which you really have to be fit to use. Winstrol can pack on more size than these two but I don't see why you would not start with trenavar and add winstrol at the end if you have to run both.
 
I say a recomp diet would be one that only looses 1lb of fat per week.

dosent matter what kind of diet you use to get there.. just pick one and go.

don't diet hard, just keep it simple and slow!

the t3 and clen will take u to the finish line
 
Nac said:
Is it? I think var is a better finisher.

Youre obviously a winny-fanboy, I guess that makes me winny-the-pooh.
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Well as far as sides go var is better but it's not on the same level when It comes to results. And no i dont really like winstrol that much. It makes my fingers hurt for weeks during and after. I tend to stay away from orals all together since I'm in no rush to see fast results. Tbol I probably my favourite considering gains vs sides.
 
Chados said:
Well as far as sides go var is better but it's not on the same level when It comes to results. And no i dont really like winstrol that much. It makes my fingers hurt for weeks during and after.
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What do you normally run winstrol at in a recomp situation (assuming minimal other drugs)? And how long?
 
Nac said:
What do you normally run winstrol at in a recomp situation (assuming minimal other drugs)? And how long?
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Recomp or cut. Heck I even bulked with It. Winstrol can put on some size, al though not in the same league as dbol and anadrol but much cleaner. I don't go above 50 mg 6 weeks. Worth mentioning is that winstrol works far better at low body fat. It's like day and night. I honestly don't see tbol being much better Bulker. I just think I've had enough with winstrol and drol, I hate dbol and anavar can be decent but the price is too high. Tbol is more for me but again highly expensive. These prohormones nowadays works almost as good to bulk with. I do think they lack in the shredding department though but that's where you can add something like s4
 
Chados said:
Recomp or cut. Heck I even bulked with It. Winstrol can put on some size, al though not in the same league as dbol and anadrol but much cleaner. I don't go above 50 mg 6 weeks. Worth mentioning is that winstrol works far better at low body fat. It's like day and night. I honestly don't see tbol being much better Bulker. I just think I've had enough with winstrol and drol, I hate dbol and anavar can be decent but the price is too high. Tbol is more for me but again highly expensive. These prohormones nowadays works almost as good to bulk with. I do think they lack in the shredding department though but that's where you can add something like s4
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If it's a night and day difference from winstrols effect when cut or overweight, would it just be wasted as a kicker to a recomp that your starting 20lbs over?
 
FRITZBLITZ said:
If it's a night and day difference from winstrols effect when cut or overweight, would it just be wasted as a kicker to a recomp that your starting 20lbs over?
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Well let me put it this way. It'll be cleaner than other orals so not really. Do I think it's worth it? Highly depends on the body fat, steroids are not fatburners. Maybe look in to s4, while not as potent it mimics winstrol without the sides.
 
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