i am cycling 250 ew....i havent reached my natural potential yet plus my natural test is on the low end of the scale....considering the average male only produces 7mgs of test ed (49mgs ew) 250mgs is more than enough for a first cycle....5 times the natural amount isnt enough??? imo steroids are abused too often....the other thing is im in australia....to run 500mgs ew for 12 weeks would be $1200....thats before getting nolva,clomid,armidex or whatever else one chooses to use....