why the 2:1 test:deca ratio?

ananas

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hi I'm wondering why everyone is saying you need to run twice as much test than deca?

I've never done steroids and I'm reading about what would be the best for my first cycle.
I don't even wanna hear of a test only cycle, because it seems shitty, side-effects wise (I've bad joints and want to keep my hair. and I'm acne prone)

that's why I was thinking about 200/200 test/deca. but this seems unusual?
I'm also a bit turned off by the potential need of an AI and caber, as this seems to overly complicate what would be my fist cycle.
For this reason I was fancying a 6weeks anavar only cycle. Once I know how I react to anavar, I would add a low dose test for my next cycles.

what are you opinions?

ps: in case you didn't notice, I'm interested by collagen-boosting compounds.
 
You are obviously not ready for any steroids or even SARMs, maybe give creatine a try. All of the information you need is here in previous threads for you to research.
 
Hey bro, I won’t go as harsh as @Ironpirate but the point he’s making is correct. Your post shows that you’ve not done as much reading as you think and your miles away from having a good grasp on the way anabolics work.

suggesting that acne, hair loss and issues with joints would come from a test only cycle (all those sides are normally an issue with dht derivatives rather than test) is just wrong. That’s not to say those sides can’t occur from testosterone (hormone interactions are complex) but it’s the least likely to cause them, especially at sensible doses.

also everyone doesn’t say to run test twice as high as deca, I personally run test and deca at 1:1 and can honestly say I don’t know anyone who runs test 2:1 with deca. Higher test is sometimes said to mitigate deca dick but it varies person to person.

you need to spend some time reading on this forum bro. Look for logs from experienced board members or comments from people like Hyde (people who have been around a while and make informed points rather than just bro talk)
 
ananas said:
hi I'm wondering why everyone is saying you need to run twice as much test than deca?

I've never done steroids and I'm reading about what would be the best for my first cycle.
I don't even wanna hear of a test only cycle, because it seems shitty, side-effects wise (I've bad joints and want to keep my hair. and I'm acne prone)

that's why I was thinking about 200/200 test/deca. but this seems unusual?
I'm also a bit turned off by the potential need of an AI and caber, as this seems to overly complicate what would be my fist cycle.
For this reason I was fancying a 6weeks anavar only cycle. Once I know how I react to anavar, I would add a low dose test for my next cycles.

what are you opinions?

ps: in case you didn't notice, I'm interested by collagen-boosting compounds.
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I know this is an old post, but I just wanted to reply that unfortunately you run into this a lot in the bb world--guys come at you with an insulting reply that tells you basically nothing, and end it with a condescending "bro." Basically, this adds up to beta boys who discovered steroids, and now think that they're God's chosen.

At any rate, truth is that steroid combos are sort of a feel it out individual thing. For instance, many say that ment is an aromatizing nightmare. Others say not. I'm in the not so much group. Finding this info, as the others in this thread mention, does boil down to researching other threads and weeding out a lot of bro logic and nonsense. As for deca and test, deca doesn't aromatize to estrogen much, and your body does need some estrogen, which is why you add test, which does aromatize. It's been said that if you run deca solo over 800mg per week, you'll get enough estrogen from it. As for lower doses, add test, and feel out the ratio. Start with standard recommended ratios and go from there. Too much estrogen and you might feel bitchy and bloated. Nips might tingle. Too little estrogen, and you kinda feel devastated, down, depending on the extreme. Erections and sex drive will vanish. When you raise or lower doses, you have to give a few days for things to catch up.
 
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