Why do people bash "oral only" cycles so much?

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man who are you, 1st you say orals arent on the same scale as injectables(thats a quote) then i said sd isnt on the same scale as masteron(sd is stronger on a mg per mg basis) and you said you didnt say that. Then you change the argument to injectables "beat" orals so stop changing the argument and admit oral steroids are on the same scale as injectable steroids moron
TFlifting said:
I would also like to point out I have not seen any actual research paper on this yet.. so far just other forums with the same write up... so currently it has no proof.

Hey guess what

Hepatoxicity
by TFlifting

Orals will give you jaundice, make your teeth rot out, and kill digestive enzymes.

Pro's: you can can fly and get a complimentary superman t-shirt

TFlifting from the center of hepatoxicity in superheroes institute in toronto

Edit: awe is jbry butthurt? thanks for the neg
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Lots of orals are stronger than injectables. And even if you do good diet, training, and PCT you will lose a lot of your gains. Most of which is water weight I'm sure.
You can't possibly gain 20 pounds of muscle in 4 weeks and expect to keep it. There's water weight, fat, and little muscle gained in that time. The majority isn't muscle gain.
The longer the cycle the easier it is to hold onto muscle n build quality muscle, given everything else is up to par.
Best is actually doing orals with injectables.
If oral only cycles were really that effective, they would be used more than anything else. But they're not. Everyone would look like Ronnie Coleman after a couple years.
 
Riskyb said:
Lots of orals are stronger than injectables. And even if you do good diet, training, and PCT you will lose a lot of your gains. Most of which is water weight I'm sure.
You can't possibly gain 20 pounds of muscle in 4 weeks and expect to keep it. There's water weight, fat, and little muscle gained in that time. The majority isn't muscle gain.
The longer the cycle the easier it is to hold onto muscle n build quality muscle, given everything else is up to par.
Best is actually doing orals with injectables.
If oral only cycles were really that effective, they would be used more than anything else. But they're not. Everyone would look like Ronnie Coleman after a couple years.
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This ****in exactly, and husker stfu I made one mistake because I mis read a post by you because I use this on my phone... And my ENTIRE argument was that orals are NOT as good as injectables, that hasn't changed once, maybe I used some terminology you can't comprehend because you have the intelligence of a ****in third grader but overall I am correct, oral only cycles keep very little gains because almost all gains are water weight and not actual muscle, longer cycles means more gains, so therefore injectables ran at 12 weeks compared to orals at 4 injectables win every time... Orals aren't on the same level to do cycles with because you don't keep as much gains! Sure you can keep the few pounds of muscle gain but you drop 10lbs+ of water weight, and the muscle gains are hardly worth it when considering side effects, if you ran orals for 12 weeks hell they might even be better than some cycles (not even close to all) but with the info we have on them now it shows that orals are indeed worse because you can't run them for as long so you do not retain gains as well, you will retain some just NOT all... And your comparing the strongest orals vs weak steroids, if you want to have a real contest lets go strongest vs strongest... D-Bol may win against alot but it sure as **** isn't the strongest AAS out there
 
Riskyb said:
Lots of orals are stronger than injectables. And even if you do good diet, training, and PCT you will lose a lot of your gains. Most of which is water weight I'm sure.
You can't possibly gain 20 pounds of muscle in 4 weeks and expect to keep it. There's water weight, fat, and little muscle gained in that time. The majority isn't muscle gain.
The longer the cycle the easier it is to hold onto muscle n build quality muscle, given everything else is up to par.
Best is actually doing orals with injectables.
If oral only cycles were really that effective, they would be used more than anything else. But they're not. Everyone would look like Ronnie Coleman after a couple years.
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While I agree with you for the most part but the majority of muscle gains can be kept on an oral cycle. And usually I run 6wks oral cycles. And if u bloat up of course Ur goin to lose the water weight, that is a given even on injectables.Ur body can only gain a certain amount of lbm during a given time anyways. And after all that's what we really want to gain is lean mass. Of course though u cud bulk up and gain alot of weight and lose some post cycle , but it will be fat and muscle, or eat healthy and just gain lbm and keep most if Ur either on an oral cycle or injectable. But in my opinion it is best to use both and stack an oral with test.
 
I just think injectable cycles are healthier, longer lasting gains, and have better overall results.
 
Riskyb said:
Lots of orals are stronger than injectables. And even if you do good diet, training, and PCT you will lose a lot of your gains. Most of which is water weight I'm sure.
You can't possibly gain 20 pounds of muscle in 4 weeks and expect to keep it. There's water weight, fat, and little muscle gained in that time. The majority isn't muscle gain.
The longer the cycle the easier it is to hold onto muscle n build quality muscle, given everything else is up to par.
Best is actually doing orals with injectables.
If oral only cycles were really that effective, they would be used more than anything else. But they're not. Everyone would look like Ronnie Coleman after a couple years.
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While I agree with you for the most part but the majority of muscle gains can be kept on an oral cycle. And usually I run 6wks oral cycles. And if u bloat up of course Ur goin to lose the water weight, that is a given even on injectables.Ur body can only gain a certain amount of lbm during a given time anyways. And after all that's what we really want to gain is lean mass. Of course though u cud bulk up and gain alot of weight and lose some post cycle , but it will be fat and muscle, or eat healthy and just gain lbm and keep most if Ur either on an oral cycle or injectable. But in my opinion it is best to use both and stack an oral with test.
 
MightyBeast said:
While I agree with you for the most part but the majority of muscle gains can be kept on an oral cycle. And usually I run 6wks oral cycles. And if u bloat up of course Ur goin to lose the water weight, that is a given even on injectables.Ur body can only gain a certain amount of lbm during a given time anyways. And after all that's what we really want to gain is lean mass. Of course though u cud bulk up and gain alot of weight and lose some post cycle , but it will be fat and muscle, or eat healthy and just gain lbm and keep most if Ur either on an oral cycle or injectable. But in my opinion it is best to use both and stack an oral with test.
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that is why I think lean bulking should replace all out bulking....its just finding that optimal daily caloric surplus and optimal macros that will give you only lean gains and minimal if any bloat/fat gains. I guess it just takes trial and error until you find your sweet spot...then you get older and your metabolism changes and you have to adjust again....or you gain muscle and have to adjust for that....neverending :D
 
Was there actually a post in here saying that guys who only run Injectables are insecure? Thats the dumbest ****ing thing I have ever heard. Bashing oral only cycles is also retarded....but it is an undeniable fact that a test only cycle is safer, probably cheaper, and far more effective than ANY oral only cycle.....lets a agree on that.
 
kjkriston said:
Was there actually a post in here saying that guys who only run Injectables are insecure? Thats the dumbest ****ing thing I have ever heard. Bashing oral only cycles is also retarded....but it is an undeniable fact that a test only cycle is safer, probably cheaper, and far more effective than ANY oral only cycle.....lets a agree on that.
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have you found your abs yet? keep driving......
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
I think people bash oral only cycles because they are insecure, or don't know how to put together a successful oral only cycle, or want to bully people who would rather do oral only as opposed to injectable and tease them about needles. they may have small penises as well? not sure...
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I'm the idiot? You can ever remember what you posted......Too bad you couldnt edit that one out? A successful oral only cycle? Hmm...take pills...use cycle support...run an effective PCT.....Goddamn Rocket surgery right there
 
kjkriston said:
I'm the idiot? You can ever remember what you posted......Too bad you couldnt edit that one out? A successful oral only cycle? Hmm...take pills...use cycle support...run an effective PCT.....Goddamn Rocket surgery right there
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weren't you the idiot who posted that I said "don't pin water based test suspension"....when we were ACTUALLY talking about IM hcg/peptide injections...follow along tubby, or should I say columbo...since you "found" my post in this thread that I was "gonna delete" LMFAO :D too funny...
 
Because if your going to do something, do it right.

Most oral only cycle advocates are pussies afraid of needles and have no business even thinking about using AAS.
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
weren't you the idiot who posted that I said "don't pin water based test suspension"....when we were ACTUALLY talking about IM hcg/peptide injections...follow along tubby, or should I say columbo...since you "found" my post in this thread that I was "gonna delete" LMFAO :D too funny...
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Well if I am tubby then post a pic....you wont because your probably in you late 40s...soft as hell and your only social life is making Snarky comments on this forum....but please let me know if your game
 
DirtyPlymouth said:
Because if your going to do something, do it right.

Most oral only cycle advocates are pussies afraid of needles and have no business even thinking about using AAS.
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actually....NO. many people want to stay on the right side of the law and do PH or DS only cycles, others want something ultra safe and stick to mild PH, some people want to inject but don't have a source for it....so on and so forth. I "advocate" any type of oral only cycle, whether it be PH/DS/AAS/SARM whatever it is...and I've pinned injectables before for about 3 years time and will be doing so again when I get on TRT....I still advocate oral only cycles despite not being a "*****" afraid of needles (although I do not like sticking needles into myself, I do it anyways if need be). so there is yet another example to add to the first few I noted earlier in the post.
 
kjkriston said:
Well if I am tubby then post a pic....you wont because your probably in you late 40s...soft as hell and your only social life is making Snarky comments on this forum....but please let me know if your game
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I'm in 10 times better shape than your fat ass. I assure you. now please shut up and let the adults talk.
 
kjkriston said:
Told ya you wouldnt post a pic.......have a nice night.....fatty
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I'm 5'8" and 175 at about 12-13%, I'll be just about the same weight at 9-10%...all before I do any real cycling since about 8 years ago....you are 6' 242? LOL :D at about what? double? say 25%+ BF? your the whale buddy. not me. go get some motivation to push away from the buffet, then come back and see us.
 
Your a sad sad fat little troll....Ill edit that post so as not to embarrass you anymore......Im out.....You should probably avoid all AAS at your size since clearly you dont know how to train if your the size you say you are.....

BTW...those tatoos are pretty common right.......keep living in denial
 
kjkriston said:
Your a sad sad fat little troll....Ill edit that post so as not to embarrass you anymore......Im out.....You should probably avoid all AAS at your size since clearly you dont know how to train if your the size you say you are.....

BTW...those tatoos are pretty common right.......keep living in denial
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you mean that other guy in the pics who is not fat? his tattoos? yes they are uncommon.
 
kjkriston said:
Your a sad sad fat little troll....Ill edit that post so as not to embarrass you anymore......Im out.....You should probably avoid all AAS at your size since clearly you dont know how to train if your the size you say you are.....

BTW...those tatoos are pretty common right.......keep living in denial
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oh so I was too fat, now I'm too small....pick one or the other and then stick with it. that is not you, the guy in the avatar has a fat face.
 
You seriously cant make yourself sound any dumber.....Howd you like my sign I made for you?...goodnight....have sweet dreams about someday being mistaken as a bodybuilder.....even if it is just a dream
 
kjkriston said:
You seriously cant make yourself sound any dumber.....Howd you like my sign I made for you?...goodnight....have sweet dreams about someday being mistaken as a bodybuilder.....even if it is just a dream
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are you mistaken for a bodybuilder? maybe a "powerlifter" or beached whale.
 
Thanks for the laughs man.....and the compliments.....Your a good guy.....a short, insecure, socially unaccepted guy....but a good guy....
 
kjkriston said:
Thanks for the laughs man.....and the compliments.....Your a good guy.....a short, insecure, socially unaccepted guy....but a good guy....
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I knew you liked me after all...since you are continually on my nuts on this board....and I'd rather be short than fat, or fat-cheeked as it was....
 
To be honest...I'm surpised this thread went on this long without infractions.....ehh.....anyway....Enjoy your bro science....
 
kjkriston said:
To be honest...I'm surpised this thread went on this long without infractions.....ehh.....anyway....Enjoy your bro science....
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my sentiments exactly, you are gonna get us both "infracted"..it won't be until later tonight or tomorrow, but I'm sure it will happen...good job....
 
****in lol'd over the last few pages, whales gonna whale, hey buddy you act like 14% is good get down to 9% before you even talk, and you start beaking over no valid point just saying "I would rather have fat cheeks than be short" yeah ok, you wish you were my height with my bf% have fun being fat, next time don't insult based on height and have something legitimate to back up your insults fatty
 
TFlifting said:
****in lol'd over the last few pages, whales gonna whale, hey buddy you act like 14% is good get down to 9% before you even talk, and you start beaking over no valid point just saying "I would rather have fat cheeks than be short" yeah ok, you wish you were my height with my bf% have fun being fat, next time don't insult based on height and have something legitimate to back up your insults fatty
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I don't think that is him in the pics (its him in the avatar pic though)....BUT if it is him in the pics? and he is 6 foot 240 and like 10% BF or whatever? congrats to him he'd deserve some props, or even maybe if its him from years ago and then he gained fat since then...either way that person is in good shape. BUT I just don't see the pics jiving with the avatar shot. and the height thing is ridiculous...I mean really, nothing says insecurity more than height jokes. and he said I was insecure...whatever, its just more nonsense and fighting in a thread full of that type stuff :D
 
Ummm....who are you talking to.....you managed to **** everything you said up. He said he was 14% (the short guy).....he said "Id rather be short than fat".. not the other way around...your a ****ing genius... And I posted pics to back my **** up...I'm...maybe 11% @ 6' 245lbs....Try again when your not drunk TFbitching
 
kjkriston said:
Ill admit...height joke was immature.....are we passed this now?
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I'm over it already....but you really need to chill out and stop running up in these threads with random smartass comments and swearing at/insulting other members (mostly me of course the last few days). and many times you do not have the facts straight even, yet you rush in and make a nasty comment. I don't like how you conduct yourself in here. but not everybody gets along, I just think you have some sort of attitude problem...
 
Its the Tren......honestly....All the AAS I have run Tren makes me the biggest *******.....And I am in no way normally an *******.....I guess Ill apologize...but honestly...your condescending comments on people who dont run oral only cycles are what made me start this.....to each is own
 
Whether you believe me or not....those pics are mine.....Im proud of that **** too.....16 years in the gym...that **** wasnt easy
 
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