Why do people avoid Hi-tech pharma?

Prop blends, misleading sales tactics, very few products dosed well enough, and they name their products steroids which ties into misleading sales tactics
 
yotohiroto said:
From what I see online most people try to avoid hi-tech pharma and don't recommend that brand. Why is that?
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Their proprietary blends of supplements are so stupid, they just have a ton of super underdosed prohormones that they claim are super unique when they are the same as other prohormones.

2nd reason I don't like them is because they name their dumb proprietary blends after actual steroids, I have actually seen people on anabolicminds fall for their tricks and think that the products they were buying are actually steroids when in reality they are buying some maca powder in a pill with 0.1mg of 1 andro on top of it.

3rd reason is they used to sell their 4 andro supplements and tell people you don't need a pct for them.

Stick with iconic formulations, sns, cel, blr, Apex alchemy, xpg, nootropics depot and other reputable companies for supplements.

I will include a photo of their anavar products ingredients list, let me know if you know what half of the ingredients are and if you can find any evidence that they actually work.
 

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Shadowblaze said:
Their proprietary blends of supplements are so stupid, they just have a ton of super underdosed prohormones that they claim are super unique when they are the same as other prohormones.

2nd reason I don't like them is because they name their dumb proprietary blends after actual steroids, I have actually seen people on anabolicminds fall for their tricks and think that the products they were buying are actually steroids when in reality they are buying some maca powder in a pill with 0.1mg of 1 andro on top of it.

3rd reason is they used to sell their 4 andro supplements and tell people you don't need a pct for them.

Stick with iconic formulations, sns, cel, blr, Apex alchemy, xpg, nootropics depot and other reputable companies for supplements.

I will include a photo of their anavar products ingredients list, let me know if you know what half of the ingredients are and if you can find any evidence that they actually work.
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what about their other products like 1 ad or 1 testosterone? i dont think they are proprietary blends right?

thanks to this group for introducing me to sns and cel. i really like sns a lot.
 
educated ones knows how to read the labels and not just look at the name on the bottle
 
yotohiroto said:
what about their other products like 1 ad or 1 testosterone? i dont think they are proprietary blends right?

thanks to this group for introducing me to sns and cel. i really like sns a lot.
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1 testosterone is better since it contains more 1 andro, but your much better off getting mandro, I will include a link. 2 bottles of mandro will get you some really nice gains. And your right, 1 ad and 1 andro are not proprietary blends which is a good thing.

www.strongsupplementshop.com

Super Mandro by Hard Rock Supplements

Super Mandro by Hard Rock Supplements is the strongest legal bulking agent available today and is exclusively available here! Order Now! Same Day Shipping!
www.strongsupplementshop.com www.strongsupplementshop.com
 
Shadowblaze said:
1 testosterone is better since it contains more 1 andro, but your much better off getting mandro, I will include a link. 2 bottles of mandro will get you some really nice gains. And your right, 1 ad and 1 andro are not proprietary blends which is a good thing.

www.strongsupplementshop.com

Super Mandro by Hard Rock Supplements

Super Mandro by Hard Rock Supplements is the strongest legal bulking agent available today and is exclusively available here! Order Now! Same Day Shipping!
www.strongsupplementshop.com www.strongsupplementshop.com
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1 ad bottle = total of 4,500mg $60
super mandro = total of 9,900mg $90

yeah for caps i agree, go with super mandro
 
Aside from all the other stuff mentioned... I've got a personal animosity for how they essentially killed iForce after they bought it. I left right around when they took over, and I know there was a whole list of products we had been working on/wanting to release, and they've essentially done nothing for ~10 years.
 
Shadowblaze said:
Their proprietary blends of supplements are so stupid, they just have a ton of super underdosed prohormones that they claim are super unique when they are the same as other prohormones.

2nd reason I don't like them is because they name their dumb proprietary blends after actual steroids, I have actually seen people on anabolicminds fall for their tricks and think that the products they were buying are actually steroids when in reality they are buying some maca powder in a pill with 0.1mg of 1 andro on top of it.

3rd reason is they used to sell their 4 andro supplements and tell people you don't need a pct for them.

Stick with iconic formulations, sns, cel, blr, Apex alchemy, xpg, nootropics depot and other reputable companies for supplements.

I will include a photo of their anavar products ingredients list, let me know if you know what half of the ingredients are and if you can find any evidence that they actually work.
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Wtf is Quebracho Blanco on that ingredients list lol
 

Pro IGF-1 is my favorite one only 104 $… them boys have some balls….​

Loved when their rep was encouraging customers to get a blood work to see how effective this product was… because you know his company wouldn’t do it because nobody would believe in the results anyway…so there was no point for them to even check if that stuff dose anything…
 
baldwanus said:
Aside from all the other stuff mentioned... I've got a personal animosity for how they essentially killed iForce after they bought it. I left right around when they took over, and I know there was a whole list of products we had been working on/wanting to release, and they've essentially done nothing for ~10 years.
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They should at least make a new BOLD lol
 
malin said:

Pro IGF-1 is my favorite one only 104 $… them boys have some balls….​

Loved when their rep was encouraging customers to get a blood work to see how effective this product was… because you know his company wouldn’t do it because nobody would believe in the results anyway…so there was no point for them to even check if that stuff dose anything…
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so you have tried that one? how was it?
 
Well , let me rephrase it … did not use it and wouldn’t use it even if it was given to me for free.

And one of the members double dose it and blood work showed … wait for it …. Absolutely nothing.. everybody that knows anything about IGF knew that there’s absolutely no way it could work but … it’s all about them $…
 
baldwanus said:
Aside from all the other stuff mentioned... I've got a personal animosity for how they essentially killed iForce after they bought it. I left right around when they took over, and I know there was a whole list of products we had been working on/wanting to release, and they've essentially done nothing for ~10 years.
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Hemavol lemon was fawkin deelish
 
Nac said:
Hemavol lemon was fawkin deelish
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I remember when we got the first flavor samples for that... honestly wasn't sure if Vaughn sent me a bag of drink mix or something to try and trick me lmfao. Blueberry Pom will always have a sweet spot in my heart though, it took me ~3 years of begging to get that flavor made.
 
These two nootropic products by them work better than any of the other ones I have tried. The labels look like ridiculous prop blends, but it works for me.

Hi Tech Cognisport
Hi Tech Adderex

Apart from these two products I wouldn’t recommend the company over SNS, CEL, XPG, Nootropics Depot, Ma Labs, Evomuse and BLR.
 
Shadowblaze said:
1 testosterone is better since it contains more 1 andro, but your much better off getting mandro, I will include a link. 2 bottles of mandro will get you some really nice gains. And your right, 1 ad and 1 andro are not proprietary blends which is a good thing.

www.strongsupplementshop.com

Super Mandro by Hard Rock Supplements

Super Mandro by Hard Rock Supplements is the strongest legal bulking agent available today and is exclusively available here! Order Now! Same Day Shipping!
www.strongsupplementshop.com www.strongsupplementshop.com
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Agreed completely here. Stacked with Andro the Giant makes for a killer 1/4 andro combo to!
 
Shadowblaze said:
1 testosterone is better since it contains more 1 andro, but your much better off getting mandro, I will include a link. 2 bottles of mandro will get you some really nice gains. And your right, 1 ad and 1 andro are not proprietary blends which is a good thing.

www.strongsupplementshop.com

Super Mandro by Hard Rock Supplements

Super Mandro by Hard Rock Supplements is the strongest legal bulking agent available today and is exclusively available here! Order Now! Same Day Shipping!
www.strongsupplementshop.com www.strongsupplementshop.com
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This product is still manufactured by Hi Tech. They own all the andro patents.

They are a huge manufacturer, including lots of store-brand products.

If you look closely, most of the hate and skepticism is due to their marketing. Their fat burners and pre workouts can be aggressive AF, and they’ve stuck by some controversial stimulants when a lot of other brands ran away.
 
N2ofusion said:
This product is still manufactured by Hi Tech. They own all the andro patents.

They are a huge manufacturer, including lots of store-brand products.

If you look closely, most of the hate and skepticism is due to their marketing. Their fat burners and pre workouts can be aggressive AF, and they’ve stuck by some controversial stimulants when a lot of other brands ran away.
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I see. I went to their site didn't realize they own bpi and eas. But havent even seen eas in stores now.
 
yotohiroto said:
I see. I went to their site didn't realize they own bpi and eas. But havent even seen eas in stores now.
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BPI had declared bankruptcy last year and Hi-Tech bought them.
EAS had declared bankruptcy a few years ago and Hi-Tech had bought them.
 
I think with Hi-Tech whatever is on the label and the amount that is listed will be accurate considering how closely they are scrutinized by the FDA but as far as efficacious dosing and innovative ingredients you have to choose very carefully. Some products they do pretty good with and others not so much.
 
Original HydroxyElite was pretty good, don't know about the current formulation. Didn't they have a Superdrol variant?
 
I agree that it’s not the best idea to name ph’s after real anabolics - I’ve used a few of their ph’s and have gained muscle on a couple of bottles. Superdrol and monster plexx have worked for adding size when running at least two bottles back to back….
 
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