not planning on starting this cylce for while looking into what i need first..but as far as support goes im planning on taking AI cycle support with some extra milk thistle or something...as far as post cycle therapy im not to sure on i read thesinners No Excuses & No ***** ***: A Stupid People's Guide to post cycle therapy and got the basic idea down the only thing im really confused about is the new product that AI came out with called post cycle support been told that it could be used as a serm but havent seen to many reviews on this and not to sure what to do...HELP!!!lol... plus minus the support products what else should i be taking with it to get better results or is this pushing it as it is?