Which peptide is most efficient for hyperplasia or localized growth?

Fuego

Fuego

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Awright guys. So the goal is this: Increase in mass through hyperplasia. I've been reading alot and also been talking to alot of people about this, and it keeps going from IGF to MGF to GHRP-6 and back again. From what I've read, I personally feel like going for MGF, then IGF, however, I'm not satisfied by what I read alone. :dunno:

What I wanna know is what you guys' would recommend based on user experience?
 
afaik its a crock of **** that is supposed to hype up the stuff so it will sell.

its main benefits from what I can tell having used it are increased nutrient shuttling. This aids in muscular hypertrophy especially if you use it in conjunction with AAS.

I don't think IGF is worth using alone anymore tbh. I think its a waste and ****s with your insulin sensitivity over enough uses (2-3 milligrams).
 
samadhismiles said:
afaik its a crock of **** that is supposed to hype up the stuff so it will sell.

its main benefits from what I can tell having used it are increased nutrient shuttling. This aids in muscular hypertrophy especially if you use it in conjunction with AAS.

I don't think IGF is worth using alone anymore tbh. I think its a waste and ****s with your insulin sensitivity over enough uses (2-3 milligrams).
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Yea, read about it concerning insulin=/ I've heard IGF has produced quite some results for several people though...
Hm, what would you recommend for the goals hyperplasia and permanent gains?
 
if you run a proper PCT and work your ass off after your cycle then you keep your gains (as long as you are not above your genetic potential).

if you're right at the limit of your muscular growth and run AAS to push above, then of course once you're natural you will lose your muscle back to your genetic limit.
 
samadhismiles said:
if you run a proper PCT and work your ass off after your cycle then you keep your gains (as long as you are not above your genetic potential).

if you're right at the limit of your muscular growth and run AAS to push above, then of course once you're natural you will lose your muscle back to your genetic limit.
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That's why I advocate the idea of running AAS to reach your genetic limit quicker...as opposed to using AAS to go above it ;)
 
thats what I'm doing

I have to admit, I'm doing it partially just cause its so intensely fun. AAS if done correctly is some incredible drugs to be on. It just makes working out the most fun thing possible (well besides getting it on which is also nice on AAS ;)).

If done right with moderate doses (400-500mg test prop with some extra strength stuff thrown in like dbol) and HCG + nolva + aromasin, then it can be very retainable.

I tried IGF before I tried AAS. I will never even think about IGF again after experiencing the hypertrophy I experienced off of steroids. Its not even comparable, AT ALL.

Although I am going to throw a mg of IGF frontload in my next cycle since I assume the synergy will be quite sick ;)
 
Fuego said:
Awright guys. So the goal is this: Increase in mass through hyperplasia. I've been reading alot and also been talking to alot of people about this, and it keeps going from IGF to MGF to GHRP-6 and back again. From what I've read, I personally feel like going for MGF, then IGF, however, I'm not satisfied by what I read alone. :dunno:

What I wanna know is what you guys' would recommend based on user experience?
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as for peps none. use GH or secretagogues for health and extra GH boost but not for direct growth, AAS are cheaper and effective for mass. use igf-1 or mgf if you want vascularity and pumps (temporary) if you dont like slin.

as for other agents for site growth, try SEO, you have more probability that you wil lmake permanent gains later after proper use than some biased 'bro' telling you to shoot igf PWO into muscles worked yada yada, ive been there its bs.
 
FYI MGF does not behave like true endo produced MGF...it cannot enter the cell, instead it binds to igf receptors, whether or not it has a higher affinity for these receptors than exo igf is another story....
 
I ran cjc-1295 + grhp-6 + insulin + igf for a while. Had some pretty sick results, too. Though the igf was targeted more towards injury recovery. Pec tear surgery's a b*tch.
 
wophood said:
I ran cjc-1295 + grhp-6 + insulin + igf for a while. Had some pretty sick results, too. Though the igf was targeted more towards injury recovery. Pec tear surgery's a b*tch.
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Damn, that cycle sounds pretty expensive=P What kinda results did you get?
 
Fuego said:
Damn, that cycle sounds pretty expensive=P What kinda results did you get?
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Well, my results were different from what you're thinking of. I was all mainly target for recovery from my injury. Being so, I was also limited to training mainly lower body. At any rate, roughly 10 pounds of lbm, and a 6 month recovered reduced to about two. Expensive? A little. Worth it? Without a doubt.
 
comacho said:
as for peps none. use GH or secretagogues for health and extra GH boost but not for direct growth, AAS are cheaper and effective for mass. use igf-1 or mgf if you want vascularity and pumps (temporary) if you dont like slin.

as for other agents for site growth, try SEO, you have more probability that you wil lmake permanent gains later after proper use than some biased 'bro' telling you to shoot igf PWO into muscles worked yada yada, ive been there its bs.
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A "Biased" bro=P I guess they're biased for a reason, I guess the response differs from each individual. Seems kinda stupid that some guy would recommend something that didn't do sh*t for him=P

Uhm, forgive my lack of insight, but what is SEO?
 
wophood said:
Well, my results were different from what you're thinking of. I was all mainly target for recovery from my injury. Being so, I was also limited to training mainly lower body. At any rate, roughly 10 pounds of lbm, and a 6 month recovered reduced to about two. Expensive? A little. Worth it? Without a doubt.
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Just what is expensive, to which you mentioned. I was thinking about looking into some of the protocols for an injury.
 
hardknock said:
Just what is expensive, to which you mentioned. I was thinking about looking into some of the protocols for an injury.
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Just depends really... mainly on your resources. Which is something we CANNOT discuss according AM rules. Sorry, but you shouldn't have a problem finding out on your own.
 
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