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Which oral would provide more maintainable gains after pct?

I still have nolva, if he needed...but never did... trenazone with 1ml doses is possible to get by without a serm... I would not even try without for 6 weeks at 2ml etc...
Yep, he might have been lucky, but serms have their problems too, as I found out last year after havoc...
I would not try any hormone without having one ready... just in case

Most of my real juicing friends just use hcg after test/deca cycles, a few shots of that, and the two boys are usually back at it... serms and AI`s are just used if they start getting gyno. usually during cycles rather than after..
They kinda think the pct regiments for 4 week cycles most people here recommend are too strong for short cycles and will give more problems than the cycle itself... but hell... these guys are walking pharmacies... and don`t really know **** about these orals anyway... so I take their words with a grain of salt.

I just wanted to say, that my friend went through a mild cycle with small gains, but I thinks thats better than gaining twice the size, losing half and using a ****load of pct stuff to keep similar gains as he got... cheaper and kinder..


hmmm a valid point there, I'd have to agree. :footinmouth:
 
DelaRone said:
why do you want to run a oral only cycle if you already have your test on hand?? that's just more time wasted bro, you have all the knowledge & tools to make long term keepable gains, just get in there! (yeaa yea)

I only wanted to run the oral because I never ran test and wasn't sure if I should add an oral my first time. I was going to run tbol soon then the test for the summer but if you guys think just doing both together would give me the best chance to keep my gains then I guess that's what im going to do.
 
loved drive.Being defiant and cutting in the winter due to it being awesome to run out side in the winter and I'll be using androlean along side superdmz2.0 last 4 weeks.I'm running it now and its friggin awesome.The dmz that is.What do you suggest running along side androlean ?This will be a minor cut so hard or enhance is my thoughts.I'm leaning twords hard.

I would go with AndroLean and AndroHard the minor cut --- but the 'cut' will depend ultimately how you eat. Lean is mild and anabolic, HARD will pack that androgenic punch to your cycle.

-Matt
 
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