Which is better Prim or Tren

[Rizza009]

Real quick should I do Prim and Masteron or Tren, Test Prop, and Masteron. I'm 5'11 233 BF is 8.5%. waiste is 33 1/2. i want that ripped vienie look. If i do Prim and masteron I don't need test right. I don't want to hit Test cause oh how big and water weight would come but I'm thinking bout addind Proivron with it to keep all the water off . Any one have any tweaks to what I'm doing.

 

[ZamaMan]

Well if your not 2-3 lbs away from a ripped veinienlook you are not 8% but anyways, from what I hear nothing will shread you like tren. So I'd go test/tren maybe mast on top and add arimidex for dryness as well.

 

[kvothe]

if you really that size and bf you are pretty good to go already, that is big and in good shape, use test prop, will bloat least of the test, and add one of the compounds you mentioned, tren will be the most sides, primo or proviron the least, mast in the middle. No need to add more than one, do not take ai unless needed, no need to take more chems than necessary. Enjoy!

 

[Rizza009]

Thanks for the info. Yes bro if u saw me you would be like everyone else saying dude you dont need ****..... But I just love that shredded look. I hear that if you take Tren by itself will will harden you but you can get geno with just taking Tren you need a Test with it. So I guess I'm damn if I do damn if i don't..

 

[kvothe]

Thanks for the info. Yes bro if u saw me you would be like everyone else saying dude you dont need ****..... But I just love that shredded look. I hear that if you take Tren by itself will will harden you but you can get geno with just taking Tren you need a Test with it. So I guess I'm damn if I do damn if i don't..

you can take anything alone, I thave taken tren alone, it worked, but test is a nice base to have that will help add to the overall strength of the cycle, and help with feeling decent, which with tren is necessary, or at least was for me. tren made me irritable, I was sweaty and hot it seemed, just didnt always feel real good in general, but it worked very well. Tren is not the most comfortable thing to take, and honestly many of the real bad things I have heard about happening to aas users who were fairly young happened to people who used a lot of tren, meaning a lot in dose and duration. Sure they used other things, but tren is no joke. If you use it, use as little as possible for as short a time as possible to get the results you want. Use test prop or acetate and you wont bloat, watch sodium intake and drink a lot of water. Judging by your stats you probably already do those things. Good luck in whatever you choose and enjoy it.

 

[Harry Manback]

Thanks for the info. Yes bro if u saw me you would be like everyone else saying dude you dont need ****..... But I just love that shredded look. I hear that if you take Tren by itself will will harden you but you can get geno with just taking Tren you need a Test with it. So I guess I'm damn if I do damn if i don't..

Tren has a love/hate relationship with myself and most people I know who have been on it. It's nutrient partitioning effects are second to none in my eyes...that is if you can hold the appetite once you're on it. Insomnia and anxiety were the two other major issues I've had with it. Tren gave me a decent bout of sensitive gyno the second time I used it. Tren alone does not aromatize and can not give you gyno, you need a high level of estrogen already present for any prolactin/progesterone induced gyno. They work synergistically. I was at a moderate 700-1000mg / week of prop and no a.i. Aromasin would be a great pick up if you're concerned about it. Do some research on it, you'll be happy to find that it has little to no negative effects on your lipids, lowers SHBG which in turn raises free test and controls your estrogen levels effectively.

My vote would be for Tren/Prop. Tren has no problem popping out the veins.

But as mentioned before, diet is most important. If you're as in shape as you say you are and you want to take your body to the next level, take your diet to the next level.

Good luck

 

[Rizza009]

Man thank you'll very much. My diet is pretty clean as is but I'm shredded but I'm just in love wit the veinie look.lol.. My nutr. told me to just clean up my diet a little more and up cardio and I will be good. He was like man you don't need a cycle. If you want to cut a little more add a little Clen for a couple weeks here and there and you'll be good. So I guess its back on a clean diet I guess. I just hate seeing the little guys in the guy 185-205 shredded. I'm 240 and shredded. So I guess if I was 200lbs I would look like them also. But thank ya'll for the real answers not saying anything crazy.@ kvothe -There is one thing though When I ran Tren. It would mess with my thoughts and mind so your spot on that. So Primobolan and Masteron would be good....