Which Anti-cort for havoc PCT? DS Lean Xtreme, IBE X-Lean, or AX Lean FX

omegax

omegax

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Im about to start my pct in about 5 days (i know should have bought these earlier) but ill get rushed shipping - anyways

Im running
AI Post cycle support
Diesel Test Hardcore
Anti-cort (which one?)

and all supporting sups
multi-vit
Fish oils Flax etc(3-4g)
Creatine mono 5g
Protein

Thanks !
 
17-b-triol in AX Lean FX seems to be the most potent of the anti-corts. I personally like DS Lean Xtreme, but I have used 17b-triol in the past with good success. These are DHEA derivatives, with 17b-triol seeming to be the strongest of the metabolites.
 
preacherman said:
why use anti cort/ after havoc cycle and what else would you recomend besides that and a serm?
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You use an anti-cort because cortisol uses the muscles as energy, so basically puts you at a catabolic state, by using the anti-cort you stop that from happening which enables you to keep your gains

What im doing is using

Diesel Test Hardcore
Anti-cort
Creatine
Post Cycle Support
Cycle Support (whats left from the cycle not much)
Omega3 oils
Protein
Cissus/Joint support

Im not using a serm cause I don't feel like dealing w/ the legalities of it, otherwise I might as well have used injectable steroids, people have had good results w/ pct like the one above though by what i've read
 
omegax said:
You use an anti-cort because cortisol uses the muscles as energy, so basically puts you at a catabolic state, by using the anti-cort you stop that from happening which enables you to keep your gains

What im doing is using

Diesel Test Hardcore
Anti-cort
Creatine
Post Cycle Support
Cycle Support (whats left from the cycle not much)
Omega3 oils
Protein
Cissus/Joint support

Im not using a serm cause I don't feel like dealing w/ the legalities of it, otherwise I might as well have used injectable steroids, people have had good results w/ pct like the one above though by what i've read
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What are you going to be dosing the DTHC like? and which week will you be starting on the PCS?

Running the Anti-cort frfom day 1 of pct?
 
Chub said:
What are you going to be dosing the DTHC like? and which week will you be starting on the PCS?

Running the Anti-cort frfom day 1 of pct?
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Im following the dosing on the bottle of DTHC and yea im running the anti-cort from day 1 until it runs out (i think its like 30 days worth?)
 
I understand the need for cort control in PCT, but here's my question: aren't the products mentioned suppressive? They're all DHEA derivatives, as someone mentioned, ie hormonal. The #1 thing in PCT is to restore natural test, so won't these products be counter-productive?

Or is that why you wait until week 3 to start? If that's the case, then that leads to this question - when does cortisol spike post-cycle? I always thought it was an issue right away.

Anyone know the answers to these?
 
Dragon13 said:
I understand the need for cort control in PCT, but here's my question: aren't the products mentioned suppressive? They're all DHEA derivatives, as someone mentioned, ie hormonal. The #1 thing in PCT is to restore natural test, so won't these products be counter-productive?

Or is that why you wait until week 3 to start? If that's the case, then that leads to this question - when does cortisol spike post-cycle? I always thought it was an issue right away.

Anyone know the answers to these?
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Thats debatable... I would use EndoAmp for month one and LX for month 2 ect... I run long pct's for long cycles... thats just me
 
justreading said:
Thats debatable... I would use EndoAmp for month one and LX for month 2 ect... I run long pct's for long cycles... thats just me
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Do you feel like the various anti-cortisol products work @ recommended dosage, or do you up the dosage ? [wondering about cost-efficiency in the end . . .]
 
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